Fallout 2 mod Fallout: Yesterday

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by hexer, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. Lawful_Neutral

    Lawful_Neutral First time out of the vault

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    Apr 2, 2021
    Writing good romance dialogues is extremely difficult IMO. Fallout 4 has romances, but they are boring and don't really add much to the game. Usually for developers it's not the first priority anyway, like all optional content, especially not in the early stages on development.
    I understand why people want them though, who wouldn't want to sleep with Joshua Graham, by far the hottest character in Fallout universe, haha :D
     
  2. Arathos

    Arathos First time out of the vault

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    Feb 2, 2017
    Funny romance/"romance" like the Shotgun wedding is easier to write though as one does not need to bother about stuff good characterization, avoiding making the romance awkward or giving the romance good character development.
     
  3. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    Those are already in and will be added at every opportunity!

    Absolutely :smug:

    For now, it's only of concern for bounty hunters but yes, your reputation will precede you with time.

    I don't think romances where even a thing until Planescape Torment which came out a year after Fallout 2.
    And now, 23 years after Fallout 2, I presume they've become a much requested thing due to Obsidian/Bioware's RPGs over the years.
     
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  4. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    They definitely are and sometimes I find them such an irritating element that a loud minority of gamers calls for.
    Because you can recruit men, women, robots, and animals to work with you, you must have the option to romance them?
    Make them well developed and useful characters first.
     
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  5. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 28, 2009
    Personally I've always viewed rommance options, and majority of party npcs beeing women with some sort of derailed liberal ocupation like an out of job journalist, to be a thing for bethesdard soybois, and generally players of those post apocalyptic action shooters while rolplaying a bum plowing through trashcans. They are constantly complaining like: "power armor makes me look fat" so let's make PA mesh to be of the same bulkiness as general unarmored skin like it's made of lycra or latex and not some thick space age ultra durable polymer. It's thanks to such kind of people present day gaming experience get's ruined not only for me but also for all the other gamer T-Rexes out there.

    Why?
    Because modern games are made as if soybois were the main gamer audience, not us T-Rexes.
    So in general: stupid ideas, plot inconsistency or sheer plot lunacy is a common thing in today's games. It's not like developers are stupid, it's because developers think majority of gamers are imbeciles, which may or may not be true, as i don't have the data how much % of gamer society are soybois, in comparison to normal people.

    EDIT:
    @hexer
    Just so you don't get confused I don't consider Fo:Yesterday as of the above examples..
    on a contrary. I think that Fo:Yesterday is going to be a game for Me and all the other T- Rexes to reach out for, finally somethng with a develpment that has their heads firmly placed on their necks, and that carefully filters feedback to weed out soyboi ideas.

    Keep it up!!

    EDIT:08.04.2021

    depending on the setting in sfall this may or may not be true. You see there's a neat setting in sfall:
    [misc]

    ;Time limit in years. Must be between -3 and 13
    ;Set to 0 if you want to die the instant you leave arroyo
    ;Set to -1 to remove the time limit, and automatically reset the date back to 2241 each time you would have reached it
    ;Set to -2 or -3 to remove the time limit, automatically reset the date, but override Fallout's GetDate function to return the correct year
    TimeLimit=-3

    *and*
    MovieTimer_artimer1=-1
    MovieTimer_artimer2=-1
    MovieTimer_artimer3=-1
    MovieTimer_artimer4=-1

    hakunin movie 4 is what probably triggers the game over. TimeLimit=-3 just prevent's the game crash that happens shortly after hakunin movie 4 due to variable reaching maximum 32bit variable size limit. so it get's reseted back to zero and current date get's overriden with the correct one.

    Here's the proof. as a reminder folks, the game starts in september 2253

    scr00000.jpg scr00001.jpg

    this clearly shows that *there is no time limit* there are only ppl that set their sfall settings incorectly...
     
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  6. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    @gustarballs1983 Thank you for investigating that issue, I wasn't aware a good solution for extending the years existed!
     
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  7. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 28, 2009
    no problemo "@ your service".. I might say...

    As a side note.. I wasn't investigating this.
    Those are the settings I usually play with, I just stumbled upon the mater by ocasionally re-reading the thread, and noticed ppl have issues with time limit,and You saying "it prolly won't change".

    "Well I say" it doesn't have to.. But in the future it would be a 'good practice' for a Fo2 engine game with such a large world to explore (like yours), to have the options I mentioned above enabled & correctly set, by default.

    @hexer
    the time limit removal is a must for Fo:y i think

    i did a full map reveal run. It took me a bit over 20 in game years to do so, and that's *with* 2x pathfinder perk if i remember correctly so that's roughly +50% travel speed if the calculation from two levels of pathfinder is additive with the first level of the perk...
    scr00002.jpg

    so for a avarage person (a.k.a. without 2x pathfinder perk) it's going to be around 30 in game years to visit the whole map +/- any time spent on doing fetch quests by going from town to town, if no faster means of travel is introduced.
     
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  8. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    Wow, 20 years! Think I calculated that with car 13 would be just enough but yeah, now that I know there's a good way to up the time limit it shall be unlocked in R4. Thanks again for looking into this! :clap:
     
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  9. Tony Maikel

    Tony Maikel First time out of the vault

    5
    May 31, 2020

    Hi bro, i downloaded the game, followed all instructions, but the game crashes in the starting and leave me with nothing, can u help me ????? i want to play this game a lot, thanks for your time, have a good day.
     
  10. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    There's nothing special about installation. Just unzip it to any folder and copy over fallout2.exe, master.dat, critter.dat and patch000.dat from your Fallout 2. That's it!
     
  11. Polpro

    Polpro First time out of the vault

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    Jun 27, 2018
    @hexer When can we expect to see R4 aprox? A little estimation maybe could you give? Are you doing the mod alone or got someone to help?
     
  12. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    Since R4 is as big as all 3 releases combined expect it later this year. The progress is good so it might come out earlier, but it's too early to tell. Don't want to crush hope for any fans :D The core team grew but is still small for the moment - me, two writers and an artist. For the first 3 releases it was just me.
     
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  13. AssaultPaladin

    AssaultPaladin First time out of the vault

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    May 17, 2021
    I am not sure if you are still stuck on confonting the BOS traitor but I think I solved the issue. If you try opening the Armory door, and Devon stops you, you get stuck in a dialogue tree where whenever you speak to him, he reminds you to keep you out of the armory. This prevents you from confronting him about being a traitor. Rather you are stuck either threatening him or asking questions about something else.
     
  14. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    Yes, that is a bug I hotfixed. You can redownload the installer or just unzip this file into data/scripts folder
     

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  15. KitsuneAmy

    KitsuneAmy First time out of the vault

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    Mar 3, 2021
    I was going to say something about thanking that person about getting my problem solved indirectly, but I didn't then, so I will now. Thank you!
     
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  16. Atron88

    Atron88 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 13, 2020
    Hey, is there a hotkey for highlighting items on ground? Or is that disabled completely on purpose? I remember some sfall versions had a setting for that in the ddraw.ini but can't find one here. It's a bit annoying to search for a pixel to pick something up in the dark or behind a wall.
     
  17. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    That was disabled on purpose. I sometimes like hiding the loot. You could probably easily mod that back in though.
     
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  18. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    You could keep in the mod with LOS-setting enabled as default. That's how I do it.. because I like the highlighting, but I hate when it glows up everything on the whole map. Feels like cheating to me.
     
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  19. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    Yeah, that could work. Speaking of it highlighting everything, sounds like the code should be updated to also allow a setting that highlights everything in your Perception x2 radius or something like that. More realistic that way.
     
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  20. Oracle

    Oracle Vault Senior Citizen

    May 19, 2003
    way out of scope on this, but since kinda being on the subject. Drops on map cant really be randomized right (location and weapon variant?) right?