Game Informer Fallout 3 article scans

Just read the damm article. The misery...my favorite gaming franchise turned into something else. I wish fallout had stayed dead. Now it's dead and raped for the second time (remember BOS?).

Bethesda can suck my big headed Todd Howard.
 
Well, it's not perfect, but I think I'll probably enjoy it.
I look forward to playing it now, although I'll probably play third person.
 
stormcrow said:
Beth are making the game for the mainstream whose tastes don't necessarily coincide with the tastes of us Fallout fans.
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They could have saved a shitload of money and done a similar game just without the Fallout name.
 
True...if they are to make a totally different game, why spend millions to own the fallout ip?

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and they already have the bethesda/oblivion name...that's worth more cash flow than fallout for sure.
 
yossa said:
Sorrow said:
No, it's about the general idiocy of redesigning an estabilishing hardware that was created in pre-war era.
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Guess what, I have reports that some RobCo genious thought the 2000 model sucked balls and so he decided that they have to push the 3000 line (available on west coast in 2078 due to shipping problems).
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Yes. And in Fallout 4 with a new interface they'll discover PipBoy 4000 and in Fallout 5 Pipboy 5000 :roll: .

yossa said:
Sorrow said:
And ignoring the difference between the Vault Boy and Pip Boy.
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Where? (Oh, in the Van Buren version)
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In both. While in Fallout, PipBoy was a personal computer (not just a part of the game interface like the inventory or the character sheet) that tracked quests, maps, and served as a video player, alarm clock and callendar.
For some reason Van Buren creators have mistaken the Vault Boy with Pip Boy and Bethesda integrated it with a charater sheet and slapped on the Vault Boy too.
 
Maphusio said:
Here is a sticky on Beth's forums

GStaff wrote:

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I wanted to give you guys a reminder about our policy on these given the news about GameInformer's cover story.

This is from our Forum Rules sticky:

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You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this bulletin board.

So no magazine scans or links to scans on other sites. Likewise, we don’t tolerate anyone transcribing the article and posting that, links to it, etc.

Our moderators will be keeping an eye on these (removing links, handing out warnings, suspensions, and so on).

Thanks,

Gstaff
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http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=707790

...So I guess according to Beth's wacky WACKY forum rules we are somehow in violation of "copyrighted" material.
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I interpret this as it is not allowed to scan the article and show the scanned pages in a thread at Bethsoft's forums. or maybe not.
I don't get why Bethsoft is so upset over what other people at other sites like NMA are doing. It is NOT their responsibility what is on at NMA or what NMA chooses to post at their website.

I don't know how Beth would take it if their links to reviews of Oblivion were deemed illegal, after all it is links to copyrighted material on other sites than Beth's own page. I once asked summer (a moderator) about this, and she said that while one couldn't post a transcription to the article, one could still post a link to it.

Gstaff's comment seems to me like tigthening of the rules. If this continues no one can site or qoute anymore more - without first asking their permission to do so. And then society as we know really will fall out...

Luckily, NMA and D&C probably will survive without the support from Beth. The big question is however: Will Bethesda survive without the aid & support from NMA and D&C?? when it comes their FO game(s)?? I highly doubt it!
 
The Duke said:
True...if they are to make a totally different game, why spend millions to own the fallout ip?
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Because, believe it or not, many of the Bethesda devs are Fallout fans. You can actually see some Fallout influences in the Elder Scrolls franchise. They wanted to make the sequel for a game they love. It's not really their fault that thei take on it is different than yours.

I don't disagree with some of your gripes, actually. But we probably aren't going to be able to change much at this juncture. Certainly not by piling on the "I hate Bethesda" crap. :(

Zoot
 
ManiO said:
They could have saved a shitload of money and done a similar game just without the Fallout name.
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That's exactly what I thought. Now if this game didn't go under the name "Fallout", I'd be more positive and willing to see a new post apocalyptic game. But it does claim to be the sequel to Fallout series, and it instantly makes me sad. The fact they're changing most of the key concepts that made the originals so wonderful feels like they're raping it. The developers claim to be fans, but they clearly don't see the factors that made the originals so unique. All I can say is why, oh why did Beth have to buy the franchise and mess it up instead of creating their own post apocalyptic game, inspired by Fallout.
 
Can someone please explain to me what the hell the Brotherhood is doing in Washington DC?

Can someone please explain to me how the hell the Brotherhood even survived another 40 years?
 
stormcrow said:
They prolly thought having a name would help in jumpstarting sales.
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Which is ridiculous, since Bethesda's name is vastly better known under their core audience (mainstream console gamers).

ZuitSuitDaddy said:
I don't disagree with some of your gripes, actually. But we probably aren't going to be able to change much at this juncture. Certainly not by piling on the "I hate Bethesda" crap. Sad
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Bethesda's developers have known for a long time what most fans consider to be Fallout and what they don't consider to be Fallout. They obviously chose to ignore this.
 
ZuitSuitDaddy said:
Because, believe it or not, many of the Bethesda devs are Fallout fans. You can actually see some Fallout influences in the Elder Scrolls franchise. They wanted to make the sequel for a game they love. It's not really their fault that thei take on it is different than yours.
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Frankly, that's the kind of fans that I strongly dislike - ones that don't care to educate themselves about the Fallout design and it's tabletop roots but prefer the "I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!" way.
Since they liked the elements of Fallout, they could create their own franchise that contains similiar elements. For example their own retrufuturistic post-apo franchise.

aries369 said:
Luckily, NMA and D&C probably will survive without the support from Beth. The big question is however: Will Bethesda survive without the aid & support from NMA and D&C?? when it comes their FO game(s)?? I highly doubt it!
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Why?
 
ThierryHenry said:
Can someone please explain to me what the hell the Brotherhood is doing in Washington DC?

Can someone please explain to me how the hell the Brotherhood even survived another 40 years?
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They invented the Fatman!
 
ZuitSuitDaddy said:
The Duke said:
True...if they are to make a totally different game, why spend millions to own the fallout ip?
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Because, believe it or not, many of the Bethesda devs are Fallout fans. You can actually see some Fallout influences in the Elder Scrolls franchise. They wanted to make the sequel for a game they love. It's not really their fault that thei take on it is different than yours.

I don't disagree with some of your gripes, actually. But we probably aren't going to be able to change much at this juncture. Certainly not by piling on the "I hate Bethesda" crap. :(

Zoot
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Sorry man, but bethesda devs = fans of fallout? :roll: , sounds like lame marketing to me.

It's like a Pedophile saying that he adores kids, in explanation as to why he is raping them :?

You must understand everyone's sickness. What I saw is not fallout. There are some mockups here and there (some signs and the intro video to tell the truth, trying to punch some 50's retro style in) but the setting, looks, gameplay...it's all totally irrelevant to the first 2 games.

You must also know that bethesda didn't even make an effort to contact the minds behind the origional games. They are just hyped retarded devs raping a franchise.

It might be a decent resident evil/ oblivion mix game(if you are a fan of those)... but it shouldn't be called fallout.
 
I remember some earlier rumors mentioning the survival horror gameplay in one big city. It seems that it was right...
 
Sorrow said:
Yes. And in Fallout 4 with a new interface they'll discover PipBoy 4000 and in Fallout 5 Pipboy 5000 :roll: .
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Certainly!

yossa said:
In both. While in Fallout, PipBoy was a personal computer (not just a part of the game interface like the inventory or the character sheet) that tracked quests, maps, and served as a video player, alarm clock and callendar.
For some reason Van Buren creators have mistaken the Vault Boy with Pip Boy and Bethesda integrated it with a charater sheet and slapped on the Vault Boy too.
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Yep, there's Vault Boy inside of PipBoy. Maybe because through this little computer you are assigning skill points, traits and stats of a Vault inhabitant, Vault boy essentially (or a Vault girl if you're not one of those people who must choose age and gender in accordance to their real persona, or else it's no go). Given the choice, would you rather Bethesda redesigned the Vault Boy images and inserted PipBoy into all those little cards? (I do admit, I am taking a risky assumption here, that you actually care about what they do or don't)
 
rember kids, this game is more than a YEAR away, they can still fix things, or you know, fuck it all up
 
yossa said:
Yep, there's Vault Boy inside of PipBoy. Maybe because through this little computer you are assigning skill points, traits and stats of a Vault inhabitant, Vault boy essentially (or a Vault girl if you're not one of those people who must choose age and gender in accordance to their real persona, or else it's no go). Given the choice, would you rather Bethesda redesigned the Vault Boy images and inserted PipBoy into all those little cards? (I do admit, I am taking a risky assumption here, that you actually care about what they do or don't)
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No, a simple character sheet with enough place for all skills and stats and the Vault Boly cards and a separate Pipboy 2000 with Pipboy image. would be enough.
TES gimmicks can be kept for TES.
 
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