...Xython said:
So? Are we suddenly not allowed to be miffed about that? The point is that we don't want a first-person view, because we want turn-based combat. You know, that all ties in together.
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So? Are we suddenly not allowed to be miffed about that? The point is that we don't want a first-person view, because we want turn-based combat. You know, that all ties in together.
Xython
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Wooz said:
Yay, Dead Kennedy's quotes. Hi5!
How about I counter with:
Fallout 3 is being made by Bethesda, so without hearing ANYTHING other than some very promising things from a single article and trailer... It is obviously shit and Bethesda needs to burn for daring to damage our game.
Bunkermensch
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Short question: Who actually owns Van Buren and the rights for it?
Xython
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Sander said:
Except this is the year 2007, and Turn based games are dead. I'm sure they could be done quite well, in indy and niche games, but Fallout 3 isn't a niche game. Bethesda isn't going to risk something "experimental" on Fallout 3.
Since the fuck when is first-person view, retarded real-time with pause, orcs featuring as super mutants, hand-held nuclear catapults and someone who wants to detonate a nuke in the middle of a town for retarded reasons 'very promising'?Xython said:
Don't be a blathering retard. Turn-based is only 'dead' because everyone aims their games at the exact same market, which is dumb as shit and causes a lot of games to fail. Bethesda is doing the exact same thing, but with a franchise that holds no value for people who don't like its gameplay, which they are now butchering.Xython said:
Xython
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Bunkermensch said:
Short Answer: Last I heard, Van Buren's code was retained by Interplay, but all the rights to the Fallout Universe are now owned by Bethesda, with Interplay having the exclusive license to make a Fallout MMORPG.
Also wrong. Van Buren's assets are spread mostly to Obsidian, and partly to Bethesda.Xython said:
Plasma-pip
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Don't give people bullshit like this. TB games are good no matter what year it is. They offer a way to have fun and engaging gameplay, where your actions have real consequence, much like the rest of Fallout. If anything it's RT games that are inferior.Xython said:
Also, everyone who thinks turn-based games are dead must've missed that whole poker-boom thingie.Plasma-pip said:
requiem_for_a_starfury said:Don't Collaborate.
Under no circumstances give them the opportunity to say this is the game Fallout fans have been waiting for, or this is the game Fallout fans have asked us for.
Innuendo said:LISTEN THIS GUY ! I totally agree with you ! Dont give em alibi at all . I still cant belive what i saw on those screenshots(.
I am totaly disapointed........ we all waiting for f3 more than 8 year, and now 3d shooter?!
What the fu*k ?!
Kan-Kerai
Still Mildly Glowing
But Sander, Poker is played in First-Person. Incredibly immersive.
The only reason those poor saps can bring themselves to deal with the horrible turn-based gameplay is the thought that they can win large sums of money. Surely Real-time Poker will be the wave of the future.
The only reason those poor saps can bring themselves to deal with the horrible turn-based gameplay is the thought that they can win large sums of money. Surely Real-time Poker will be the wave of the future.
Xython
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Plasma-pip said:
Really? When's the last time you saw a turn based game break the top 10 PC games list?
I mean, outside of strategy games like Medieval Total War 2.
Xython said:Really? When's the last time you saw a turn based game break the top 10 PC games list?
I mean, outside of strategy games like Medieval Total War 2.
That is what it is about?
You want this game to be in the top 10?
Civilisation 4. Temple of ELemental Evil before that, probably.Xython said:Really? When's the last time you saw a turn based game break the top 10 PC games list?
I mean, outside of strategy games like Medieval Total War 2.
People still enjoy turn-based games just as much as way, way, way back. It's the retarded thought that every single game must be aimed at as many people as possible that makes every idiot think that turn-based must be out.
Kan-Kerai
Still Mildly Glowing
Yes, let's ignore a large amount of turn-based games in an attempt to prove a point that turn-based games don't sell. Earth-shattering logic.
Xython
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The Dutch Ghost said:Xython said:Really? When's the last time you saw a turn based game break the top 10 PC games list?
I mean, outside of strategy games like Medieval Total War 2.
That is what it is about?
You want this game to be in the top 10?
Do you not want this game to be in the top 10?
Bethesda isn't making a game for you. They are making a game to sell to the largest audience they can.
If you want a game for you, learn C++ and the DirectX API or libSDL.
Sander said:
Number 9 over 2006, according to NPD (half the top 10 is Sims games, obviously).
Xython: tell me the last turn-based game that flopped?
Also tell me why Fallout 3 shouldn't be a Sims game, since Sims games dominate the PC top 10.
In others words, the mindless drones.
Xython
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Sander said:Civilisation 4. Temple of ELemental Evil before that, probably.Xython said:Really? When's the last time you saw a turn based game break the top 10 PC games list?
I mean, outside of strategy games like Medieval Total War 2.
People still enjoy turn-based games just as much as way, way, way back. It's the retarded thought that every single game must be aimed at as many people as possible that makes every idiot think that turn-based must be out.
Civ4's a strategy game, doesn't count.
ToEE is what, 4 years old now? 5? And it wasn't exactly a success, what with Atari deciding to remove the entire evil side of the game at the last minute.
Any others?
When's the last time you did a good quote pyramid?