Hell is not frozen yet! (Diablo 3)

Makenshi said:
fuck blizzard if they don't make a dedicated shield user
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The barb my group of friends runs with is one-hander/shield. He's basically our tank with 65k health. Not sure if there are any shield specific skills though.

Kyuu said:
Admittedly, I'm barely into Act II on normal in D3, but so far I'm 100% in agreement with this. The loot is just... bleh. Does it have + my primary stat and + vitality? No? Toss it. Except for weapons. There it's: check the big DPS stat. If it's bigger keep it, if it's smaller toss it.
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It gets a bit more complicated later on because you'll be juggling resists, attack speed, critical chance/damage, whether it has sockets or not, etc. I've dropped pieces of gear for not having enough armor and worn some because the dex gave me a couple more points of dodge on my wizard.
 
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Bl...th-Authenticators-Have-Been-Hacked-42909.html

God fucking damnit, Blizzard. You just HAD to add the stupid fucking RMAH, huh? So now the whole game is a gear-based grindfest based on how much patience you have if you want a rare item with the right stats and bonuses without resorting to buying shit off the RMAH, thanks to that thing. Heaven forbid Blizzard doesn't get some extra money, they're so poor right now.
 
I think the blue post is worth noting:

The "hacking" ("compromising" is probably a better word, since no real "hacking" is going on) being seen in D3 is no different than what World of Warcraft players have been seeing for five years or so. The sad thing is, if no one bought game currency (gold, credits, whatever) from these third-party companies, then essentially no account compromises would be occurring. Compromises not done by gold selling companies are very rare indeed. They strip one player to sell to another, because it's much more efficient than "farming" gold. They still farm some of course, but they do it purely with compromised accounts.

If you have the physical or mobile authenticator (both of which major banks use and charge $30+ for) the chances of you being compromised are very, very small. I've personally examined the MSInfo files of nearly all of the handful of WoW players who have actually been compromised through an authenticator, and the sheer number of backdoor programs and other malware on their systems has been mind boggling. Probably not coincidentally, these same people were also running a disturbing number of file-sharing and download programs, including ones which are commonly known to not be safe.
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Didn't you read the forum posts of "hacked" players? Most of them seem to have a dedicated Windows PC they just set up two weeks ago with nothing but Diablo III installed. They also don't use it surf the web, the only exception being battle.net sites. :lol:
 
Hell might not be frozen, but Blizzard decided to AGAIN bring the EU servers down during european prime time. It's like EU is a QA environment for US & Asia. How grand.

Makenshi said:
the warrior holding the helmet (if wearing plate armor) when back to town... man, that was so nice

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fuck blizzard if they don't make a dedicated shield user

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Both melee characters are stuck with using shields on Inferno difficulty. And even then you still get killed soooo many times. :)
.Pixote. said:
The Butcher in D1 scared the fuck out of me when he came running out of his gory lair. It's one of the few times when I needed to flee for my life in a game.

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The Butcher comes back in Diablo 3, sadly, he's a pushover and spouts retarded vegetable quotes.

srsly, wtf?
 
SuAside said:
Hell might not be frozen, but Blizzard decided to AGAIN bring the EU servers down during european prime time. It's like EU is a QA environment for US & Asia. How grand.
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as far as I know, they didn't bring the servers down, but rather it's impossible to log in after the patch. the only official word from Blizzard is that too many players are trying to log in and if you just keep at it, you'll eventually get in :roll: well, me and hundreds if not thousands of others have tried for a few hours now, without results.

seems like I'll eat my words after defending Blizzard and their servers earlier. for me it's been perfectly fine up until this point. not being able to play for one night isn't that much of a problem though. what bothers me is the arrogance from Blizzard. their very few responses could very well have been "have you turned your computer on?".
 
Buxbaum666 said:
Didn't you read the forum posts of "hacked" players? Most of them seem to have a dedicated Windows PC they just set up two weeks ago with nothing but Diablo III installed. They also don't use it surf the web, the only exception being battle.net sites. :lol:
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Not sure if serious, but yeah, I'm sure so very many people set up dedicated PCs just for Diablo III. Even if any of them did, they could have had their passwords keylogged/etc. from another PC. There's simply no reputable evidence whatsoever that anything other than mundane keylogging/phishing/etc. was going on.
SuAside said:
The Butcher comes back in Diablo 3, sadly, he's a pushover and spouts retarded vegetable quotes.

srsly, wtf?
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Yeah, the Butcher is a key example of how the Diablo III team just doesn't get it. The Butcher in D1 was terrifying without being gigantic, without cheesy lines (other than the famous "Fresh meat!" of course), and without fancy gameplay mechanics. K.I.S.S.
 
.Pixote. said:
Wait 2 years and buy it for $5.
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It's not going to drop in price that fast. $20 sure, but that will be without the expansion.

.Pixote. said:
D1 is still the most gripping of all the games. If only someone could hack it to increase the resolution...
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Best atmospherically and the best written expositions, sure. Best gameplay? No.

Kyuu said:
Yeah, the Butcher is a key example of how the Diablo III team just doesn't get it. The Butcher in D1 was terrifying without being gigantic, without cheesy lines (other than the famous "Fresh meat!" of course), and without fancy gameplay mechanics. K.I.S.S.
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I think that it shows that the team lacks originality and can't write well. That said, the Butcher of D3's mechanics are infinitely more fun than the Butcher in D1, who simply ran after you and hacked you.
 
aenemic said:
seems like I'll eat my words after defending Blizzard and their servers earlier. for me it's been perfectly fine up until this point. not being able to play for one night isn't that much of a problem though. what bothers me is the arrogance from Blizzard. their very few responses could very well have been "have you turned your computer on?".
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eh it's cool to have a 50€ brick on your shelf no ;)

seriously. This all could have been avoided if they simply allowed people to play offline :P

ah ... but that has been mentioned now soooo many times.
 
OakTable said:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/05/30/the-horror-of-being-hacked-in-diablo-3/

Well, this gives a little more evidence towards the hackers using session id hacks to nab items. Note how he says that none of his other passwords were yoinked and that they only went after the last character he logged into and not his higher level alts.
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That does sound pretty suspicious.
But it seems odd that anyone who "hacked" an account, could not access the other characters.
In fact, it seems like only the variables that were in play (gold amount, items for current char, stash) were affected.


May be time to invoke Hanlon's Razor on this?
Diablo III servers have on several separate occasions failed to record my/otherpeople's game/achievement progress.
Perhaps they have also failed to update the current gold/item/stash progress for these people and then reverted them to default.
I doubt that this is what happened since you'd think these guys would know how to stop this from happening from their YEARS of experience from WoW, but then again we're talking about the same guys that don't care if your password is upper or lower case.
Just sayin'
 
UncannyGarlic said:
I think that it shows that the team lacks originality and can't write well. That said, the Butcher of D3's mechanics are infinitely more fun than the Butcher in D1, who simply ran after you and hacked you.
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Ehh... granted, I've only fought him on normal, but he was so absurdly easy I didn't really find anything compelling about the mechanics of the fight. Still had more fun with the original.
 
So has the goodwill dried up yet, or are people still forgiving of their masters - Blizzard. :P
 
PlanHex said:
I doubt that this is what happened since you'd think these guys would know how to stop this from happening from their YEARS of experience from WoW, but then again we're talking about the same guys that don't care if your password is upper or lower case.
Just sayin'
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Case sensitivity alone won't make a password secure. Also, again: "It's not my fault due to my gaming computer being a fresh install of Windows 7 with the bare minimum needed for running the game and it is only used for gaming." :clap: Who does that?
 
Buxbaum666 said:
Case sensitivity alone won't make a password secure.
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No, but it does add at least another 25 characters a brute force approach needs to account for, which is intrinsically a good thing, yes?
 
OakTable said:
Well, this gives a little more evidence towards the hackers using session id hacks to nab items. Note how he says that none of his other passwords were yoinked and that they only went after the last character he logged into and not his higher level alts.
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I know someone second hand who this allegedly happened to. I'm worried that the exploit might really exist and if it does, I'll be really pissed that Blizzard has done that shitty of a job after years of not having that problem with all of their other games.

Kyuu said:
Ehh... granted, I've only fought him on normal, but he was so absurdly easy I didn't really find anything compelling about the mechanics of the fight. Still had more fun with the original.
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I still didn't have a problem with him on Nightmare but he was definitely harder. I'll give you that the original Butcher was harder so it felt like much more of an achievement to beat him but I still think he was a less interesting enemy mechanically.
 
PlanHex said:
No, but it does add at least another 25 characters a brute force approach needs to account for, which is intrinsically a good thing, yes?
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As far as I know battle.net will limit the number of login attempts you can make in a short time, thus making brute force attacks unfeasible.
 
.Pixote. said:
So has the goodwill dried up yet, or are people still forgiving of their masters - Blizzard. :P
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Of course people still jump to their defense. Imagine if this was an EA-published game instead. Hah.

I mean, we don't really know either way, but this problem really doesn't look like it's on the user-end, it really looks like there's an exploit of sorts, especially if authenticators can be circumvented (no, I don't care how much spyware such people had on their computers, that has nothing to do with the authenticator mechanism not working). I don't see the point in denying it at this point, all the evidence points to there being problems on Blizzard's end as well as the usual amount of "people being stupid" problems (not denying that's happening as well, it always does).
But just look at this thread, the defenders are still there...

My boss over at GameBanshee was hacked. He's never had an (online gaming) account hacked before, he's a professional who keeps his PC clean, he uses unique passwords for every account. But please, no, keep blaming the end-user. Totally realistic.

What a disaster this game's launch has been. I just hope the problems are big enough to discourage more publishers from pushing for always-online DRM stupidity in single-player games. But instead, Blizzard is just being rewarded with sales and white knighting. Ugh. A fresh reminder one of the biggest problems in this industry are the consumers.
 
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