Hell is not frozen yet! (Diablo 3)

I cleared Act 4 Inferno on my wizard with 40k health, 500 all resists and 25k DPS. All hydra/blizzard kiting, those were my only two attack spells. Diablo himself took a few days to beat.

I'm 33k health, 40k DPS now and farming Act 1/2 since the drop rate changes seem to have made Act 3, 4 and pony level almost complete garbage.
 
korind, you are doing it wrong.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#aigdSm!aUg!caZccc

not too sure about some of the skills, the point is that you are going to be an archon.

the passives are what you need.

the whole point is to run around as an archon and use that. it only works on densely populated areas like act 3 bridge and such. but there are numerous videos of people running around farming the crap out of inferno like that.


( wont let me turn the link into a real link with url tags, oh well )
 
I never use archon, I pretty much hate it. Lots of people love it though. This is my farming build:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#RlSOQb!YdT!bYZYYb
 
What the fuck. The game asks for my authenticator when I try to log in, yet I never got one. Now I can't play, and can't send a support ticket to Blizz because I can't fucking login. The hell is happening here?
 
buy an authentificator and buy stuff (lots of it) trough the real money auction house. Thats what Blizz wants from you.
 
Maybe someone hacked your account and added a authenticator or something? No idea.


But while we are at it: Prior to D3 release, I checked my old battle.net account and as I forgot my password and everything, I couldn't login anymore. So I checked out the help pages and they said, I should send a ticket to blizzard. Tried that then, wrote a line, wanted to send it out and... now the page asked me to login first, before I send the ticket. :D So finally I just scrapped that and made a new account...

Also I've activated that free mobile authentification thingy. It's free and the game has cost 60 euro, so better safe than sorry.
 
Ilosar said:
What the fuck. The game asks for my authenticator when I try to log in, yet I never got one. Now I can't play, and can't send a support ticket to Blizz because I can't fucking login. The hell is happening here?
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That happened to my WoW account awhile back (not that I play WoW) but I could still get on my account through the Blizzard website. Granted, that was before I had fully merged my WoW account. You could create a new account and send in a ticket with the of your hacked account.
 
Just recovered my account.

And yup, I've been hacked. All my gold is gone. Curiously, my stash is untouched, so was my character and prgression. I'm just broke as fuck now.

Now, it's true I didn't get an authenticator. But my password was unique, never told it to anybody, and there's not a single bit of malware on my gaming computer for certain, I don't even download anything save for games on secured websites. This simply should not happen, and it's pretty much all because of Blizz's insistence to force than always-online crap on its customers. From what I've heard, the game is losing many players (I mean, all games do, but D3 seems to go the way of TOR), and I doubt I'll be playing much longer myself.
 
some of the people doing the hacking said that they hacked blizzard fan sites and downloaded their account database and use that to hack accounts.

that along with the like PSN getting hacked and steam and such, chances are your password and username/email are floating around on someones list.
 
Ilosar said:
And yup, I've been hacked. All my gold is gone.
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*uses Jedi mind trick*
You have not been hacked. This is not happening. D3 is unhackable. Blizzard is infallible. If anything happens, it's your fault.
 
Crni Vuk said:
buy an authentificator and buy stuff (lots of it) trough the real money auction house. Thats what Blizz wants from you.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRR you can get a free one for your smartphone.
 
Ilosar said:
From what I've heard, the game is losing many players (I mean, all games do, but D3 seems to go the way of TOR), and I doubt I'll be playing much longer myself.
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Kinda. It seems many people I am talking to in my class seem not to be that happy about Diablo 3 either. Its not that they dislike it. They just believe Blizz has gone to far with all of the things. Auction House, always online, the recent "account thefts" (call it what you want).

And I agree. Diablo 3 has not even really an good story. Its actually much worse then Diablo 1 and 2 in my eyes. Gameplay is alright.

Maybe I am wrong here, but I have the feeling D3 will not have a long future. Not like D2.
 
Crni Vuk said:
[Maybe I am wrong here, but I have the feeling D3 will not have a long future. Not like D2.
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That's why I'm curious how Torchlight 2 will develop. I've played the beta and the game-play was at least as good as in D3 (felt more like improved D2, rather than something completely new. But that's not surprising) and I haven't noticed any major issues - unlike D3's.
 
Thoughts after about 400 hours (no lifin' it with the best of em!):

eh, it's pretty good.

The gameplay is really pretty fantastic. I don't really care for action rpgs usually, I never played any of the diablo clones. Played diablo 2 over lan with 2 friends a couple years ago and played the shit out of diablo 1 and I don't think either one comes close to the fun I've had with this. I couldn't wipe the grin off my face during my first 3 and 4 person games with some RL friends, all the amazing spell effects flying every where, monster chunks flying in all directions. Truly spectacular.

The skill system, while initially seeming less complex than diablo 2 actually gets pretty deep. I just came up with a melee build on my wizard that works in act 1 and 2 inferno, it's pretty hilarious. There's quite a bit of variety, and with the right gear / skill combinations you can make a lot of things you didn't really think were viable work.

All the cool little random events you can find in the game are great too. The areas feel far less random than diablo 1 or 2, but with all the random set pieces and dungeons and events that can spawn I'm still finding stuff I havent seen before after 400 hours.

On the whole "always online for singleplayer" debate:

This is a bit of a double-edged sword for me. On one hand I think it does severly suck balls that someone with bad internet could never play hardcore, and that you can't play a singleplayer game when they decide to patch or do maintenance, I understand where the rage is coming from about this.

On the other hand, diablo 1 was completely ruined for me by hacks / dupes. The only reason I stopped playing it was because every time I tried to play multiplayer someone was either hacking to town kill me or throwing inventories full of Godly Plate of the Whale around. These games are way better multiplayer and keeping all that data server side is really the best way to combat this.

There's no way to have it both ways without including the necessary data in the game client, making it mineable.

On the notion i see everywhere that it is impossible to get gear by farming and drops are tuned for you to have to use the AH / RMAH:

total bullshit. I've finished act 3 inferno (I've got the gear to beat the bosses in act 4 but the elite packs are a different story) and the only thing I bought off the auction house was a weapon, and equivalent weapons have since dropped for me. Playing with friends and sharing drops helps a ton, this might not be the case if i had played solo 100% of the time. Along with finding plenty of good gear for my wizard and getting some stuff from my friends, I've also given them some pretty godly demon hunter and monk drops in return. If I hadn't have sold all the great barbarian and witch doctor gear I've found I could also easily get one of those two classes into act 2 inferno at least as well. The drops are tuned to an incredibly long playtime for certain but they are there. Patience + RNG = profit.

Here's my main complaints:

Whoever designed weapons, especially legendary ones, is a moron. I saw a windforce and a grandfather sword linked in chat awhile ago and they were both terrible. The problem is for a weapon to be usefull it has to get 2 random affixes, +weapon dmg % and +elemental dmg xxx-xxx. Without these two stats an otherwise perfect weapon is totally useless. I really don't think they did much internal testing with high end gear, or if they did they didn't have a large enough player pool to weed out these kinds of things.

Second, there's really nothing to do in the game once you've beaten inferno aside from farming gear... so you could farm gear more effeciently? They'll have to add more than just pvp to give this game the kind of longevity that diablo 2 had but I'm sure they will at some point. Also it feels kind of weird to have to repeat "quests" while you're farming, it'd be great if they added some kind of roguelike ranodmly generated challenge dungeon or something later on.

My only other real complaint is the AH buyout botters and stock broker nerds fixing markets all day. I've probably made about 20-30 million gold since I started playing, and with my gear (pretty good but plenty of room for improvement) as it is that would only get me 1 or maybe 2 upgrades at current prices. Hopefully the wave of mommys credit card kids are done getting ripped off by these jerks and they'll learn that people can't afford anything at those prices.

Diablo 3, while very far from perfect, is really quite a game. Definitely worth checking out if you haven't yet. Play it with friends, 4 player games will blow your mind, worth the purchase just for a few days of that in my opinion.
 
a great post, Snackpack. I have to say I agree on pretty much every point.

the game definitely has its flaws, but on the whole it's a lot of fun and most of the complaints are either getting worked on (crappy legendaries, steep difficulty curve in inferno) while a lot actually stems from people not wanting to play a Diablo game.

grinding gear might not be fun for everyone, but that's what the AH is there for. and yet people complain about there being nothing to do once they've decked out their character in the best possible gear money can buy? well no shit, you decided to skip the entire step that is supposed to be the end-game you keep crying for. if you don't think it's fun grinding for good gear, or think it's fun running around owning everything with your awesome shiny gear, then maybe you shouldn't be playing Diablo?

I still haven't touched the AH (except trying to get some stuff sold) and I'm having a great time farming Act 1 in Inferno to be able to continue. I don't play a lot, only a few hours each week, but I'm having fun doing it - the game is challenging enough, and every once in a while I get an upgrade, leading me one step closer to the next act.

and as for skills, I've been using pretty much the one and same skill-set from when I hit level 60 up until the last patch (pretty much the basic DH glass-cannon) but over the last couple of days I started experimenting with some other skills and realized you can do so much with this skill system. the downside is that it's still very item-dependant - don't go tank DH until you have ridiculously good gear. but the possibilites are there, and I don't have to respec or start a new character to try something completely new. with time and balancing, I think the "valid" builds will only increase in number.
 
I don't get it. I thought that if anyone was to say Diablo III is an ugly, boring, stale and overall mediocre game not worth your time it'd be NMA. . .
 
Snackpack said:
On the notion i see everywhere that it is impossible to get gear by farming and drops are tuned for you to have to use the AH / RMAH:

total bullshit. I've finished act 3 inferno (I've got the gear to beat the bosses in act 4 but the elite packs are a different story) and the only thing I bought off the auction house was a weapon, and equivalent weapons have since dropped for me.
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Prior to 1.03 this was definitely not the case and you having bought a weapon on the AH is an indicator of this. There was no way you would ever get a 900+ DPS two hander, or even an 800+ DPS two hander in act 1. Maximum item lvl for acts 1 and 2 were 61 and 62 respectively. This was the irony, in that the gear you needed to effectively beat the current act was only dropping in the later acts. If you were really lucky in act 2 you could roll a two hander up to 900ish DPS, but such drops were extremely rare.

This was really more of a problem for barbs and monks since they are inherently more gear dependent. The ilvl 60 and 61 gear is mostly garbage.

Of course, act 2, 3 and 4 have been nerfed and all ilvls have a chance to drop in any act, so these problems don't exist anymore.
 
TheWesDude said:
and no, we dont do 10-15 times the dps.
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Yes, you do.

Why? Because:
1) I've got NO DAMAGE DEALING SKILLS selected, at all. Everything needs to be spec'ed for survival, or I'm screwed. A heal with fear effect, a 4 second invulnerability shield, my primary attack is spec'ed into not dealing more damage, but in raising my armor rating for a few seconds on every third hit, my mantra is spent raising my dodge chance, etc. There's where my spirit goes, that's where my skill slots go to.
2) I'm heavily sacrificing damage for resistances.

When my wizard was level 55, I got to equip it with a 650DPS 1h weapon (-5 lvl req). It then did more damage with crap ass Hell gear than I do with my monk with a 950 dps 1h and nearly full inferno gear.

Not to mention that both arcane power and hatred both regen automatically AND that there are abilities to make it regen faster by using standard attacks. Those attacks don't even have to hit anything for hatred regen to work!

Spirit has no automatic regen, and it cannot be regen'ed unless you hit an enemy. Hitting air doesn't count.
(yes, you can have 0.3-1.5 spirit regen per second off a helmet with moderately decent other stats and resistance, if you pay your ass off)


My wizard is only lightly twinked, but it's a breeze farming shit with it.
I'm now also leveling a DH, because a buddy wanted to doubleteam to lvl60. It's boring as shit playing wizard or dh btw. Monks are better off, too bad they suck such horrendous balls at anything but tryin' to stay alive and require so much more effort to farm gear.
 
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