Is anybody else sick of the Mario franchise?

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by BFox17, May 26, 2012.

  1. BFox17

    BFox17 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Apr 20, 2012
    I mean seriously, they've pumped so much out of this bloated character. I can see the future: Super Mario 100, where yet again you have to save the princess, like she already hasn't learned her lesson not to allow herself to be kidnapped. Not to mention the long list of terrible sports games they've brought out :P

    Does anybody else think the franchise is dead?
     
  2. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Sandman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    No. Mario is far from dead.

    Mario has always been about gameplay. The story doesn't really matter much. Many of those sports games were actually pretty fun. Super Mario Galaxy was way different than any Mario game before it, and they have continued to bring fresh concepts to the series. Sure, they whore Mario out, just like they do Link, and Samus, but that is really all Nintendo has to work with. I think Super Mario RPG is still one of my favorites. It even had a pretty good story to go along with it.
     
  3. generalissimofurioso

    generalissimofurioso The Hole Time Orderite

    Jun 17, 2007
    Pretty much.

    For a franchise that got its start by creating a character around the concept of jumping, Mario games are still really damn fun.

    It goes to show that design trumps all.
     
  4. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    The story and universe was never that important for the Mario games to begin with, it always served more as a backdrop than to help the game along the way.

    The RPGs tried to do some more focus on story telling and expanding the setting but the Mario universe was never one of political complexities and deep history.
    Focus was always more on the gameplay.

    What I do think is a problem with Nintendo is that they never tried to establish more IPs over the years.
     
  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    what about Mega Men? Sonic? As like those kind of games need a story at all.

    its mario. Timeless classic!
     
  6. Dario ff

    Dario ff Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Aug 19, 2008
    Last time people asked for a story in a Sonic game we got Sonic The Hedgehog 2006... Never again.
     
  7. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    I'm only tired of Mario over-exposure.

    -Mario platformers.
    -Mario kart.
    -Super Smash Bros.
    -Mario Party.
    -Mario Tennis.
    -Mario Soccer.
    -Mario Whatever.

    And all the countless games and spin offs featuring him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mario_video_games

    Ironically I remember that during the 16-bit era Sega was sometimes accused of whoring out Sonic (6 games in 5 years).
     
  8. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Sep 14, 2009
    I've always hated Mario, even in the original Donkey Kong. And I hate the way these unimaginative companies just milk the same shit year after year. Just look at this list and weep...

    Donkey Kong 1981 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong 1982 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong Jr. 1982 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong Jr. 1982 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong II 1982 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong 1983 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Mario's Cement Factory 1983 Game & Watch Action game
    Mario's Bombs Away 1983 Game & Watch Action game
    Pinball 1983 Arcade game Pinball
    Mario Bros. 1983 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
    Mario Bros. 1983 Game & Watch Action game
    Mario Bros. Special 1984 NEC PC-8801 Platformer (2D)
    Punch Ball Mario Bros. 1984 NEC PC-8801 Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong 3 1984 Game & Watch Action game
    Donkey Kong Circus 1984 Game & Watch Action game
    Donkey Kong Hockey 1984 Game & Watch Sports
    Pinball 1984 Nintendo Entertainment System Pinball
    F-1 Race 1984 Nintendo Entertainment System Racing
    Tennis 1984 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports (Tennis)
    Super Mario Bros. 1985 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Wrecking Crew 1985 Nintendo Entertainment System Action game
    Vs. Wrecking Crew 1985 Arcade game Action game
    Golf 1985 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports (Golf)
    Super Mario Bros. Special 1986 NEC PC-8801 Platformer (2D)
    Vs. Super Mario Bros. 1986 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
    Super Mario Bros. 1986 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
    Super Mario Bros. 2 1986 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
    All Night Nippon Super Mario Bros. 1986 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
    Famicom Grand Prix: F-1 Race 1987 Famicom Disk System Racing
    Mario Bros. II 1987 Commodore 64 Action game
    Punch-Out!! 1987 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports
    Super Mario Bros. 2 1987 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally 1988 Famicom Disk System Racing
    Super Mario Bros. 3 1988 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    I am a Teacher: Super Mario Sweater 1988 Personal computer Educational
    Pinball 1989 Famicom Disk System Pinball
    Tetris 1989 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
    Tetris 1989 Game Boy Puzzle
    Wrecking Crew 1989 Famicom Disk System Action game
    Super Mario Brothers 1989 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
    Kaettekita Mario Bros. 1989 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
    Alleyway 1989 Game Boy Action game
    Super Mario Land 1989 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
    Super Mario Brothers 2 1989 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
    Tennis 1989 Game Boy Sports (Tennis)
    Dr. Mario 1990 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
    Dr. Mario 1990 Game Boy Puzzle
    Qix 1990 Game Boy Puzzle
    Vs. Dr. Mario 1990 Arcade game Puzzle
    Super Mario World 1990 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Super Mario Brothers 3 1990 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
    NES Open Tournament Golf 1991 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports (Golf)
    Super Mario Brothers 4 1991 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
    Mario Teaches Typing 1991 Personal computer Educational
    Super Mario Bros. & Friends: When I Grow Up 1991 Personal computer Art game
    Mario the Juggler 1991 Game & Watch Action game
    Yoshi 1991 Game Boy Puzzle
    Yoshi 1991 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
    Mario is Missing! 1992 Personal computer Educational
    Mario is Missing! 1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
    Super Mario Kart 1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Racing
    Super Scope 6 1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Action game
    Mario Paint 1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Art game
    Yoshi's Cookie 1992 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
    Yoshi's Cookie 1992 Game Boy Puzzle
    Super Mario Race 1992 Nelsonic Game Watch Racing
    Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins 1992 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
    Mario's Time Machine 1993 Personal computer Educational
    Mario is Missing! 1993 Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
    Mario's Time Machine 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
    Mario & Wario 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Action game
    Super Mario All-Stars 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Mario's Early Years! Fun with Letters 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
    Mario's Early Years: Fun with Numbers 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
    Mario's Early Years: Preschool Fun 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
    Yoshi's Cookie 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
    Yoshi's Safari 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Rail shooter
    Tetris & Dr. Mario 1994 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
    Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 1994 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
    Mario's Playschool 1994 Personal computer Educational
    Mario's Time Machine 1994 Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
    Hotel Mario 1994 CD-i Educational
    Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World 1994 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong 1994 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong 1994 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
    Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest 1995 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island 1995 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
    Mario's Game Gallery 1995 Personal computer Board games
    Undake 30 Same Game 1995 Satellaview Puzzle
    Mario Excite Bike 1995 Satellaview Racing
    BS Super Mario USA Power Challenge 1995 Satellaview Platformer (2D)
    Mario's Picross 1995 Game Boy Puzzle
    Mario's Super Picross 1995 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
    Mario's Tennis 1995 Virtual Boy Sports (Tennis)
    Mario Clash 1995 Virtual Boy Platformer (3D)
    Mario Teaches Typing 2 1996 Personal computer Educational
    Super Mario 64 1996 Nintendo 64 Platformer (3D)
    Mario Kart 64 1996 Nintendo 64 Racing
    Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 1996 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Role-playing
    BS Mario Paint: Yuu Shou Naizou Ban 1997 Satellaview Art game
    Dr. Mario BS Version 1997 Satellaview Puzzle
    Game & Watch Gallery 1997 Game Boy Minigame compilation
    Game & Watch Gallery 2 1997 Game Boy Minigame compilation
    Yoshi's Story 1998 Nintendo 64 Platformer (3D)
    Mario no Photopi 1998 Nintendo 64 Art game
    Wrecking Crew '98 1998 Satellaview Action game
    Super Mario Bros. Deluxe 1998 Game Boy Color Platformer (2D)
    Mario Golf 1998 Nintendo 64 Sports (Golf)
    Mario Party 1998 Nintendo 64 Party game
    Mario Party 2 1999 Nintendo 64 Party game
    Super Smash Bros. 1999 Nintendo 64 Fighting game
    Game & Watch Gallery 3 1999 Game Boy Color Minigame compilation
    Mario Golf GB 1999 Game Boy Color Sports (Golf)
    Mario Artist: Paint Studio 1999 Nintendo 64DD Art game
    Mario Artist: Talent Studio 2000 Nintendo 64DD Art game
    Mario Artist: Communication Kit 2000 Nintendo 64DD Art game
    Mario Artist: Polygon Studio 2000 Nintendo 64DD Art game
    Mario Tennis 2000 Nintendo 64 Sports (Tennis)
    Paper Mario 2000 Nintendo 64 Role-playing
    Mario Party 3 2000 Nintendo 64 Party game
    Dr. Mario 64 2001 Nintendo 64 Puzzle
    Luigi's Mansion 2001 Nintendo GameCube Action game
    Super Smash Bros. Melee 2001 Nintendo GameCube Fighting game
    Mario Tennis 2001 Game Boy Color Sports (Tennis)
    Mario Kart: Super Circuit 2001 Game Boy Advance Racing
    Super Mario Advance 2001 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
    Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World 2001 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
    Super Mario Sunshine 2002 Nintendo GameCube Platformer (3D)
    Mario Party 4 2002 Nintendo GameCube Party game
    Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 2002 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
    Game & Watch Gallery 4 2002 Game Boy Advance Minigame compilation
    Mario Party 5 2003 Nintendo GameCube Party game
    Mario Kart: Double Dash!! 2003 Nintendo GameCube Racing
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour 2003 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Golf)
    Nintendo Puzzle Collection 2003 Nintendo GameCube Puzzle
    Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 2003 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
    Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga 2003 Game Boy Advance Role-playing
    Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 2004 Nintendo GameCube Role-playing
    Mario Party 6 2004 Nintendo GameCube Party game
    Mario Power Tennis (GameCube) 2004 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Tennis)
    Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2004 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
    Mario Golf: Advance Tour 2004 Game Boy Advance Sports (Golf)
    Mario Pinball Land 2004 Game Boy Advance Pinball
    Super Mario 64 DS 2004 Nintendo DS Platformer (3D)
    Yakuman DS 2004 Nintendo DS Board game (Mahjong)
    Super Mario Bros. (Classic NES Series) 2004 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
    Dr. Mario (Classic NES Series) 2004 Game Boy Advance Puzzle
    NBA Street V3 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports
    Mario Superstar Baseball 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports
    Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix 2005 Nintendo GameCube Music video game
    SSX on Tour 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports
    Mario Kart DS 2005 Nintendo DS Racing
    Mario Party 7 2005 Nintendo GameCube Party game
    Super Mario Strikers 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports
    Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time 2005 Nintendo DS Role-playing
    Yoshi Touch & Go 2005 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
    Mario Party Advance 2005 Game Boy Advance Party game
    Mario Tennis: Power Tour 2005 Game Boy Advance Sports (Tennis)
    Dr. Mario & Puzzle League 2005 Game Boy Advance Puzzle
    Yoshi Topsy Turvy 2005 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
    Mario Kart Arcade GP 2005 Arcade game Racing
    Super Princess Peach 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
    New Super Mario Bros. 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
    Mario Hoops 3-on-3 2006 Nintendo DS Sports
    Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
    Yoshi's Island DS 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
    Tetris DS 2006 Nintendo DS Puzzle
    Super Paper Mario 2007 Wii Role-playing
    Mario Party 8 2007 Wii Party game
    Mario Strikers Charged 2007 Wii Sports
    Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 2007 Wii Sports (Olympic Games)
    Super Mario Galaxy 2007 Wii Platformer (3D)
    Mario Party DS 2007 Nintendo DS Party game
    Itadaki Street DS 2007 Nintendo DS Party game
    Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 2007 Arcade game Racing
    Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 2007 Nintendo DS Sports (Olympic Games)
    Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2008 Wii Fighting game
    Dr. Mario Express 2008 DSiWare Puzzle
    Dr. Mario Online Rx 2008 WiiWare Puzzle
    Mario Kart Wii 2008 Wii Racing
    Game & Watch Collection 2008 Nintendo DS Minigame compilation
    Mario Super Sluggers 2008 Wii Sports
    Mario Power Tennis (New Play Control! series) 2008 Wii Sports (Tennis)
    Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2009 Wii Sports (Olympic Games)
    New Super Mario Bros. Wii 2009 Wii Platformer (2D)
    Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story 2009 Nintendo DS Role-playing
    Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2009 Nintendo DS Sports (Olympic Games)
    Super Mario Galaxy 2 2010 Wii Platformer (3D)
    Game & Watch Collection 2 2010 Nintendo DS Minigame compilation
    Super Mario All-Stars 25th Anniversary Edition 2010 Wii Platformer (2D)
    Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem 2010 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
    Mario Sports Mix 2010 Wii Sports
    Super Mario 3D Land 2011 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (3D)
    Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games 2011 Wii Sports (Olympic Games)
    Mario Kart 7 2011 Nintendo 3DS Racing
    Fortune Street 2011 Wii Party game
    Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games 2012 Nintendo 3DS Sports (Olympic Games)
    Mario Party 9 2012 Wii Party game
    Paper Mario 3DS 2012 Nintendo 3DS Role-playing
    Luigi's Mansion 2 2012 Nintendo 3DS Action game
    Mario Tennis Open 2012 Nintendo 3DS Sports (Tennis)
    New Super Mario Bros. 2 2012 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (2D)
     
  9. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Sandman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Yeah, and many of those games were pretty enjoyable. Some were even educational. Most of those "Mario" games weren't even Mario games either. .Pixote listed several games numerous times. That list could be cut in half if it was edited properly.
     
  10. generalissimofurioso

    generalissimofurioso The Hole Time Orderite

    Jun 17, 2007
    That list counts every cameo appearance of Mario as well.

    Because you know, a company putting it's most famous character in it's other products counts as an entry into that particular saga.
     
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I like the Mario franchise. Most of the main Mario releases improve something or creates a new experience. I like all the plataformer games, and I specially loved the Paper Mario games. I don't particularly like the Sports games, I just ignore them.

    The Franchise I am sick of is the Zelda series, they take their sweet ass time with each game but all of them are basically the same game wrapped up in a new colored tin foil, all of them have exactly the same game desing flaws, like they couldn't even fix that in their 10+ years of releasing them. And the fandom makes it all worse because they love to declare Zelda as the BEST THING EVUUUUUR!
     
  12. Dario ff

    Dario ff Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Aug 19, 2008
     
  13. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I liked Wind Waker, after that it all went downhill, they just started embracing the "add gimmick don't fix anything" formula for every single Zelda game. Twilight Princess was the worst of the bunch.
     
  14. rcorporon

    rcorporon So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
    Orderite

    Jan 31, 2008
    I like Mario. As stated above, it's still fun to play. Same reason I think Pac-Man is awesome (still fun to play).

    As for Zelda, most Zelda fans are nostalgia whores and whatever happens to be the first Zelda game they played will always be "the best". I played them all since the first one (gold cart FTW) but I've always liked ALttP the best. 3d Zelda's never really did it for me.
     
  15. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    You are still looking at an average of 5-6 games with a playable Mario per year. We are only in May and there are already 5 games with a playable Mario in it.
     
  16. Sub-Human

    Sub-Human -

    May 31, 2011
    Never really enjoyed Mario to begin with. Prince of Persia was more fun.
     
  17. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    I don't even remember what the last Mario game was that I played, let alone a Nintendo game. I remember that I raged pretty hard how shitty the 3d Platformers were. Fuck 3d ;). Thank god we have Super Mario Land and the likes.
     
  18. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    Basically. Nintendo seems to have zero imagination when it comes to new characters and games. Mario has been a shameless cash cow ever since he got off SNES.
     
  19. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Sandman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005

    Which ones? Because I enjoyed a few of them. I hated Super Mario Sunshine, but Super Mario 64, and Super Mario Galaxy rocked. I think Sunshine was one of the lesser quality core titles in the series.
     
  20. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    I didn't own a Gamecube, but the N64 - so it was Mario 64. ;) I don't know, it wasn't fun for me.