Is the US a shitty place to live?

valcik said:
This guy asked random Americans to sign petition to support Obama's plans for pre-emptive nuclear strike on Russia. Those plans are fictional of course, but check out the results - Americans are signing without any hesitation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNr5czZKEdk#

Those good people don't realize that they're supporting hypothetical global thermonuclear war actually!
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Good people? GOOD people? Methinks our definitions of what constitutes a "good person" WILDLY differs. I wouldn't call war-mongering ignorants "good" by ANY stretch of the imagination.
 
The same idiots who elected Obamtards into office, no surprise there.

All the more reason for the government to either reform guidelines on education or GTFO.

I fed the troll :(
 
I just watched that video... call me a biased Russian but the fact that they can sanction nuclear destruction? Thank god it's only a small amount of people not the whole of America...

Americans can be nice and it's a great cultural crossroad but if America is supposed to be our future, this world is screwed so bad. What with them supporting Nazis in Ukraine and the massive decline in the fortress of 'liberty' and 'freedom'. They haven't officially declared war in congress since the second world war. Everyone is bad but America takes the cake in the quest of global dominance.
 
I believe they are a super power on a steady decline. They probably can't keep this up for ever. Their population is suffering because of corporate and military expensens. But that is really not feasible in the long run, the resources we have on this planet are simply limited. And wasting so much for it for what I see as rather pointless - military and corporate greed, seems rather silly.
 
The current economic plans, both there and in the UK, seem to be 'keep ALL of the money at the top and when shit goes down, take a little more off the poorest, for they cannot complain if they are dead'. It's like repairing a shed made of cardboard and dried spunk by putting a little bit of duct tape on there every now and then.
 
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Dr Fallout said:
I just watched that video... call me a biased Russian but the fact that they can sanction nuclear destruction? Thank god it's only a small amount of people not the whole of America...
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Uh, you don't seem to understand what demonstrations like that..... demonstrate. It's not that the 200 or 100 or 50 or 10 people who signed the petition are the ONLY people who feel that way, it's that these are REPRESENTATIVE of populations. You take as random of a sample of preferably 2000 people and task them with as objective of a performance as possible, and the results become very reliably representations of what a greater population would do, given the same opportunities. If the video was edited to remove EVERY case of someone hearing him and saying "Nuclear bombardment? You're fucking crazy!" then we'd need the numbers of how many people blindly signed and how many people actually thought for a second before they acted. The total numbers would still be representative.

Yes, people can be nice, but that doesn't mean that they aren't ignorant fools like those video morons. Some of the nicest people are also the most evil, because TRUE evil is often born out of the best of intentions.
 
I guess people have become a bit lenient today. Remember the cold war is over and the overall feeling is that The West has won and Russia is just like no clue any other small state comparable to Iran or Afghanistan. All events that followed from the early 1990s considered I would also believe that a large part of the US population has the feeling that there is no power on this world that can rival the US. Which sure might be true when you think strictly in military power. But that still doesn't mean that someone like China or Russia would not have the means to destroy the US with their nuclear arsenal. I guess just like you said, enough people might realize later, what boggus a nuclear bombing of Russia would be, when you consider what it would mean for the US and the rest of the world really.
 
The funny thing about this thread, is that to me personally, all of the people asking these questions come from countries I wouldn't want to "Live". I would love to visit, but live, no.


I would not like to, in a perfect scenario, live in the US either.


I would like to live in probably New Zealand, or Australia (Away from the Chinese nuclear launch targets), or Tasmania. Tasmania sounds great, except for the internet quality. However, when you live in a place like Tasmania, I think the horrible ping is a very small price to pay.

Svalbard also seems like a good place, however Europe and Asia and America make me want to live on the SOUTH side of the equator instead.

Chile sounds like a great place, however Argentenia and the whole drug cartel, CIA, communist underground, China, Russia, chopping off heads thing going on in the countries next door make me hesitant.

If global warming gets really out of control, I might just buy some shit in Antarctica.


However, for now, The US is alright. Not great, not horrible, just..alright.



Also, you guys forget that the whole reason the United States becoming the way it is was THE WORLD'S fault to begin with.


It's not like we are Mars, or Pluto.
 
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Like WW1-WW2, The Revolutionary War, French Revolution, The fact that the United States is made up of immigrants for countries all over the world of all different types of batshit crazy and normal, Cold War, Military Industrial Complex, Nuclear Proliferation, Economic Warfare. Umm yeah.
 
Hmmm.

That's an interesting point. With that I deduce, what is true for the US could be eventually also true for other nations as well. Particularly those which have been at one point or another super powers. Even if just local ones. Like Germany. The whole reason for what happened between for example 1923 and 1945 was the world's fault. Like WW1, kaiser Wilhelm's resignation, French Revolution, Great depression.

I am not trying to turn your point in to ridiculous, I like you to much for that Derpamine, and I really do not want to insult your intelligence here, as I do know that you have it somewhere in that drug infested and narcotized gray goo that lies beneath your cranial bone. But enough about your anatomy.

Thing is, I guess your point is, I hope, that we should see things from a historical point, in other words in a more neutral manner with cause and effect. And I agree with that. Albeit, I respectuflly disagree with the idea that it's all the world's fault, alone. Just saying. Just as one example. The Invasion on Iraq and the subsequent aftermath of those actions can and should be at least in some cases blamed on the US policy of that time.

As long as we and with that I mean mainly the Western world, decide to solve most if not even all of the problems by military means, we will always face the same kind of situations. Like terrorism, povertiy, economic issues and so on. We've tried this kind of tactic for the last 10 000 years or so. It was sometimes effective, but those are extremly rare cases. For the most time at least in the long run I would say it was pretty ineffective in solving issues, and if it was than only for one side really and that for a relatively short time.

Really, I think that it's about time we try something completely different. If maybe even a bit radical! But it might work out right in the end. What do we have to loose at this point anyway?
 
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Even though layers of fog, my mind is sharper than most.

Without the fog, the pain is unbearable.


The point is that the rules of cause and effect are at play here. Today's Finland is tomorrows Africa. There is no difference, other than those that take steps for the future.



 
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Crni Vuk said:
I guess people have become a bit lenient today. Remember the cold war is over and the overall feeling is that The West has won and Russia is just like no clue any other small state comparable to Iran or Afghanistan. All events that followed from the early 1990s considered I would also believe that a large part of the US population has the feeling that there is no power on this world that can rival the US. Which sure might be true when you think strictly in military power. But that still doesn't mean that someone like China or Russia would not have the means to destroy the US with their nuclear arsenal. I guess just like you said, enough people might realize later, what boggus a nuclear bombing of Russia would be, when you consider what it would mean for the US and the rest of the world really.
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Nuking Russia is a shit idea... biggest nuclear arsenal and they created the strongest hydrogen bomb know to mankind, you could get burns in a sixty mile radius of ground zero... so powerful they turned the project off.
 
Well, it was a 50 Megaton bomb. Imagine if they actually did the whole thing as the original plan was to use a 100 Megaton bomb. If I remember correctly.

The Dopamine Cleric said:
The point is that the rules of cause and effect are at play here. Today's Finland is tomorrows Africa. There is no difference, other than those that take steps for the future.
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It is difficult to wrap your head around it. And I can only partially blame the public for it, the common people. I believe that it's all in our education, our jobs and our whole god damn society. The way how things are structured already since your birth is to train you and treat you like a resource, no better than cattle.

God damn it, it takes a Brit to tell the US in the US what is wrong about the US.
 
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Basically all the world's worst criminals and craziest people got together and said "Hey, fuck those guys. Let's start our own country!" And somehow it became the world's military and economical superpower. The end.
 
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Slightly off topic: do we have any Austrians or Hungarians on the forum? If so, how do you feel about the current Syrian migration going on? Is it as bad as I've heard from NPR broadcasts?
 
Beaushizzle said:
Slightly off topic: do we have any Austrians or Hungarians on the forum? If so, how do you feel about the current Syrian migration going on? Is it as bad as I've heard from NPR broadcasts?
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I have an Austrian friend who moved for work. Don't know if it counts but apparently it depends on where you are. The refugees gather around the poorer areas and train stations and such. I don't really pay attention to the refugee thing but I could ask.
 
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