Is the US a shitty place to live?

[DarkCorp]

Crni Vuk

TBH, Americans have serious issues about providing for stupid or lazy fucks PERIOD. With that said, I am not advocating a fuck everyone mentality. I want the government, which already spends a TON, of money on welfare to do it efficiently. You wouldn't invest your hard earned money into a flawed business plan.

Also, as others have said, it is NOT, the governments job to force folks to be charitable, it is up to the individual to decide. Government definitely should not punish people for not doing so.

I can't help but feel the hypocrasy as Europe is beginning to turn more and more illegal migrants away.

Big pharma, good point. A great many americans I want to believe are hypochondriacs. There are medications for everything. Docs in this country have to suggest every damned procedure /test/medicine under the sun. They do this for fear of getting sued if they miss something that pops up later on. This and many other factors ALONG with those I have mentioned already is another MAJOR stumbling block. Please do not subscribe to the notion that no universal healthcare is due to greed or for da lulz.

Lastly, AGAIN, its a bit silly to complain about american democracy solves everything yet euro folks happily talk shit because euro/whatever social healthcare is what will make everything better.

Do we have work to do? Sure. Will it take time? Sure. Is socialised medicine the way to go, absolutely not, atleast for the U.S.

 

[Moosick]

this thread

 

[SnapSlav]

for major reform to happen through zeitgeist or a further sociopolitical shift, huge environmental damage/natural disaster, war, or - what I predict will happen - as a result of large or total economic and societal collapse that may involve the former few

No, it's much more gradual and constant than that. Major events can have an effect, true. But generally speaking, all it takes is a shift in morals. It's one of the reasons I detest moral arguments, because they blindly change good things without decent consideration of the consequences. But when you teach your children that this or that is moral, then whatever that extends to becomes policy. People are taught that they are their brother's keeper, which I find zero logical argument to support, but people morally agree with. So this, being an altruistic shade of morality, shifts cultural, economic, governing, and other policies in that direction. Control the morality, you control the shape of society. A major event might GALVANIZE these things, but they'll never transform a society's morality overnight. 9/11 spurred people on to be increasingly xenophobic and American Exceptionalists, but they were already xenophobic and arrogant to begin with. It just added fuel to the fire.

 

[Moosick]

Never said nor implied it would happen overnight or anything close to that m8, but it'd happen faster than normal if a catalyst sparked it, which I expect it will.

also
>makes a comment about the thread going in circles
>continues commenting
I do it to myself, I do, and that's what really hurts.

 

[SnapSlav]

It's hardly going in circles. It's the natural form of discourse, which is much more like a wavy and dented oblong shape or line than anything circular. Maybe abstract spirals?

EDIT: Huh, 2000th post. Neat.

 

[Lexx]

News like this make me think that the USA is a shitty place to live in.

 

[Hassknecht]

It's only shitty for those who are too poor to buy a proper living, and if you're too poor it's your own damn fault, you lazy bum.

/edit: Seriously though, 150$ a month for water alone, that's pretty harsh. Especially if the water is of extremely poor quality.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Actually they are. Do you see the image? All the snow around them? And they complain about not enough water ... If there is one thing the nation really needs its more sport stadiums. Those are in real shortage.

 

[Cimmerian Nights]

You guys are predictably tiresome with your pearl clutching. Extrapolating what happens in a shithole like Flint to the nation as a whole, would be as bright as us looking at Moldova and assuming all Europe is such.

Can you douchebags just have one 'sins of the west/USA' thread and contain it at that? I swear, you guys could turn a thread about donuts into Japanese internment camps.

It's the summer, drink a better, get a hummer.
Relax your sphincters.

 

[TorontoReign]

News like this make me think that the USA is a shitty place to live in.

Detroit is one of the worst places to live in the country. A very shitty place to live indeed. Listing all of the problems there would take the rest of the day.

You guys are predictably tiresome with your pearl clutching. Extrapolating what happens in a shithole like Flint to the nation as a whole, would be as bright as us looking at Moldova and assuming all Europe is such.

Can you douchebags just have one 'sins of the west/USA' thread and contain it at that? I swear, you guys could turn a thread about donuts into Japanese internment camps.

It's the summer, drink a beer, smoke a joint, and get a hummer.
Relax your sphincters.

Fixed.

 

[Cimmerian Nights]

Thanks, more of a gravity bong hit man myself.

 

[SnapSlav]

It's the summer, drink a beer, smoke a joint, and get a hummer.
Relax your sphincters.

Fixed.

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to go on a road trip and pay one a visit, where one is, hypothetically speaking, an indulger of cannabis, would one in said hypothetical scenario be willing to share a bit with one such as myself, in this hypothetical situation, for my own chance to try it out? Until the only time I ever tried it out, I thought Clinton's rhetoric about "smoked but didn't inhale" was bullshit, but now I know better, cause I totally failed when I tried it... Hypothetically, that is. ^_~

 

[Crni Vuk]

You guys are predictably tiresome with your pearl clutching. Extrapolating what happens in a shithole like Flint to the nation as a whole, would be as bright as us looking at Moldova and assuming all Europe is such.

Can you douchebags just have one 'sins of the west/USA' thread and contain it at that? I swear, you guys could turn a thread about donuts into Japanese internment camps.

It's the summer, drink a better, get a hummer.
Relax your sphincters.

I didn't knew that Moldava was as close to say France or Germany like Flint and it's state is to the US government. We can talk about issues in the EU. But I am not sure what benefit it has in a discussion about the US and the situation in the US. Does it help the people which can't afford their water that people in Somalia have it worse?

 

[SnapSlav]

You guys are predictably tiresome with your pearl clutching. Extrapolating what happens in a shithole like Flint to the nation as a whole, would be as bright as us looking at Moldova and assuming all Europe is such.

Can you douchebags just have one 'sins of the west/USA' thread and contain it at that? I swear, you guys could turn a thread about donuts into Japanese internment camps.

It's the summer, drink a better, get a hummer.
Relax your sphincters.

I didn't understand that you were drawing parallels to explain why us mistakenly thinking Flint, Michigan equates to the rest of the United States was a mistake. Sorry, my mistake for not understanding this. I am not sure what benefit it has in a discussion about the US and the situation in the US because like I said, I didn't understand your simple explanation.

Fixed.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Fixed my ass. Do you want to tell me IN ALL SERIOUSNESS(!) that Flint Michigan, their citizens and the state as official part of the United States of America could be compared to the relation between two seperate nations like Moldava in the Czech Republic and Germany or France or Great Britain?

Is that the way how the Government and the people of the US should care about each other? Than maybe Michigan should consider a new secession honestly ...

 

[The_WitchDoctor]

Wow, you seem to have a general hatred for the US for absolutely no reason.

Nah, you are completely wrong. One joke picture doesn't mean a general hatred, you know?

It's not one joke picture though. It's everytime there's a conversation about the US, you pop in with something negative to say. I'm wondering what the US did to you that made you have such a grudge against it?

 

[Cimmerian Nights]

Yeah, yeah, death to America. Can we move on now?


Y'all aren't following my advice about the sphincter relaxing, and it might be worth catching Idiocracy while you're effortating that.

 

[Crni Vuk]

If you're doing it, do it at least right.

 

[DarkCorp]

Seconded on that $150 a month for water DAMN. Mine runs on average $60 and I use a lot because I live in a fucking desert. Sounds like whoever runs that city is doing an absolutely TERRIBLE fucking job and needs to get booted out.


Anytime something bad happens in the U.S., every single citizen of the country is at fault and it wouldn't be so if we just adopted the solution to all your problems, 'SOCIALISM' yay!


But anyways, yeah we obviously need more 'death to america' posts

 

[SnapSlav]

Fixed my ass. Do you want to tell me IN ALL SERIOUSNESS(!) that Flint Michigan, their citizens and the state as official part of the United States of America could be compared to the relation between two seperate nations like Moldava in the Czech Republic and Germany or France or Great Britain?

Is that the way how the Government and the people of the US should care about each other? Than maybe Michigan should consider a new secession honestly ...

Here's a nifty bit of trivia that I HOPE will somehow penetrate your thick skull: "The area of the United States (including Alaska and Hawaii) is 9,161,923 km2, while the area of Europe is 3,788,027 km2. The United States is almost two and a half times the size of the European Union. France is slightly smaller than the state of Texas." (source) The continental United States is 5,020,967 square kilometers, again, much larger than Europe.

So, when a SINGLE city within a known-shitty location in the entire country is reported to have a certain condition, and someone draws a parallel to express that being alarmed at this and making false assumptions that this ONE city across all this land mass must equate to representing the rest of the Union, to jump to some absurd conclusion that simply being of different countries is unjustified. You are, after all, the European Union; a federal union of most of Europe's countries. And yet, occupying LESS land mass than the continental United States. So if ANY country within the EU has any problems, should that raise your alarms to make you think that your haughty blood-traitor ass sitting in Germany should be concerned that Germany has fallen on identical hard times? No, that would be a wild misappropriation of the stated facts.

Just because a city occupies space in the same country, that does not mean that it reflects the entirety of the country. Geographically speaking, it's an isolated incident, and as several have already pointed out, it's NOT because the place is in any actual trouble, it's because it's being run by fucking idiots. It's surrounded by water, and yet they're paying astronomical prices for water. Here in California (drought central), where damn near EVERYBODY is raising a fuss over the price of water..... it's not remotely that bad. It's a fucking DESERT over here, we are NOT surrounded by any immediately drinkable water in the form of feet of snow that seasonally covers us, we suffer continuous droughts, and yet we are able to get by. Why? Cause we're not led by fucking morons.

"Caring about each other" begins with taking care of yourself. Period. When they stop being such fools, then it'll be time to look out for them when they fall on hard times. Because THEN (and only then) will their conditions be relevant.