Kotaku profiles No Mutants Allowed and hating Fallout 3

[Crni Vuk]

No, Crni, you misunderstand. It is now the job of the newsposters to start speculation threads in the Fallout 4 subforum and also make that subforum a part of the front page.

Well I do wonder why we don't have a Fallout 4 subform ... I mean since it is pretty much confirmed that the game will be released, it would be about time. Let us concentrate the F4 fans in one place. Makes it easier to bash em.

 

[TorontoReign]

No, Crni, you misunderstand. It is now the job of the newsposters to start speculation threads in the Fallout 4 subforum and also make that subforum a part of the front page.

Well I do wonder why we don't have a Fallout 4 subform ... I mean since it is pretty much confirmed that the game will be released, it would be about time. Let us concentrate the F4 fans in one place. Makes it easier to bash em.

Agreed. Much needed.

 

[Adz]

NMA seems a lot more friendly than it used to be. We seem to have a lot less quote autopsies and agressive comments.

I do wonder what how many users came after fallout 3 was announced compared to the old guard.

I didn't register when I first started visiting but I came shortly after playing fallout 1 and looking for info on the second fallout. After completing fallout 2 I had put so many game hours in that I had been institutionalised by fallout setting and lore. The role playing, fan fic and fan art forums where a methadone to allow me to adjust to the real world.

NMA is a great collection of resources if you're interested in the fallout world rather than the individual games. I think this is why people get angry at the newer games and the new fans. People who have been with fallout from the beginning have been so engrossed in the fallout world that the new games seem superficial and feel like something they hold very dear has been butchered and not respected properly.

I did play Fallout 3 / NV and I got some entertainment out of them... But they'll always be a cheap imitation for me.

 

[The_Proletarian]

Because reposting all the corrupt/retarded media slurping the bethesda PR hype is what NMA should focus on, right? They lack another advertising plant.

So you're saying that in your opinion, NMA should all but shut down then? After all, there won't be another traditional Fallout game.

The huge problem that NMA currently have is the lack of staff members dedicated to write stuff on a weekly basis.

There are Fallout 4 & Fallout Shelter to talk about, sure, but also the regular improvements/enhancements on the classics, the very active mod community for Fo1-Fo2-FoT-Fo3-FoNV that keeps releasing stuff every days. There are some new isometric post-apocalyptic RPG like Wasteland 2, Age Of Decadence, Underrail, Dead State, Insomnia, Fallen:A2P Protocol, and others. If Fallout 3, which is a Fallout game by name only is covered, there is no reasons to not cover games like those, which are Fallout games in all but the name (to keep things overly simple). Also, there is ton of new indies RPG and indie post-apocalyptic games. I took a break for professionnal reasons, but when i was article writter for Fogen (french Fallout community that also deal with post-apo & manage to have both the 1st & 2nd generations of fans together), i have more than 10 indie post-apocalyptic games to talk about every months. And i purposly ignored AAA post-apocalyptic games. And we only scratched the surface of mods for the 5 main games of the IP, because there is just so many of them and you need a dedicated person just to explore them all. We also had a guy only dedicated to Fonline servers (didn't stay long). There is literrally an overwhelming amount of things to talk about. You just need people who have time to talk about them. (on the bright side, you don't have to translate the news in french)

Good post! I would also prefer if NMA started to cover RPG:s similar to Fallout, such as Wasteland 2 and others.

 

[Crni Vuk]

But ... we did ...

Part of the problem really is that there are not THAT many news posters right now. You feel something is worth to be posted? Why not making a topic then.

 

[Gonadius]

Well, what's keeping you from asking those questions?

Absolutely nothing. I have asked a couple of questions of Bethesda and even got answers. Nothing important, true, but questions I wanted answers to regardless. But people (probably not many these days admittedly) visit NMA for Fallout news, and having it on the site is kind of the purpose for which it is intended.


So if NMA doesn't report on Fallout games, doesn't report on similar games, and doesn't report on mods, why is it considered a news site, and not simply an archive?



EDIT: On a side note, I should probably this is a new account, as my old one I don't recall the username, password or e-mail address I used to set it up. Not that it matters, I probably last logged in over a decade ago...

 

[PlanHex]

No, Crni, you misunderstand. It is now the job of the newsposters to start speculation threads in the Fallout 4 subforum and also make that subforum a part of the front page.

Well I do wonder why we don't have a Fallout 4 subform ... I mean since it is pretty much confirmed that the game will be released, it would be about time. Let us concentrate the F4 fans in one place. Makes it easier to bash em.

Well, I count the "future fallout games" forum as the FO4 subforum. Just needs a name change really.

 

[PlanHex]

No, Crni, you misunderstand. It is now the job of the newsposters to start speculation threads in the Fallout 4 subforum and also make that subforum a part of the front page.

Well I do wonder why we don't have a Fallout 4 subform ... I mean since it is pretty much confirmed that the game will be released, it would be about time. Let us concentrate the F4 fans in one place. Makes it easier to bash em.

Well, I count the "future fallout games" forum as the FO4 subforum. Just needs a name change really.

 

[TorontoReign]

But ... we did ...

Part of the problem really is that there are not THAT many news posters right now. You feel something is worth to be posted? Why not making a topic then.

We do need to get on our game about Fallout 4 stuff. I think there are a few people willing to help if they can.

 

[Crni Vuk]

You should become a newsposter!

 

[Dead Guy]

We should have a subforum for Underrail instead, it's infinitely closer to what the article says this community loves so much than any of the sand box amusement parks Bethesda makes.

 

[Graham2077]

The article felt fine to me, but I haven't been around long enough to know any better I guess. Most people on here are pretty civilized with their opinions, but I've noticed that it only takes a couple bad apples to ruin a whole topic for everyone and start a huge debacle.

 

[valcik]

NMA is a great collection of resources if you're interested in the fallout world rather than the individual games.

Yup, that's how I've discovered this site actually - searching for BIS Fallouts modifications, tools, and patches in ~2004 or so. Couldn't post anything, because it would look like friggin Enigma coded message thanks to my broken English. I was forced to make account later, after playing one of the olders killap's RP versions, which made me want to participate eventually.

Another great thing what I value the most at NMA are their incredibly good interviews with old BIS developers written by Odin. Seriously, you can't find such interesting and informative articles often, guys! Funny thing is that I've never found even remotely interesting interview with Todd Howard, his statements are just boring and empty soulless shit in comparison.

 

[AgentBJ09]

There are millions of kids who claim to be huge Fallout fans that are missing out on a foundational piece of the story. In the media, there will dozens of reviews for Fallout 4 that won’t analyze its place as a follow-up of Black Isle’s blood, sweat and tears. Maybe they don’t have the knowledge, or maybe they just don’t care.

Don't really care for Kotaku these days but this was exactly how I felt after pouring over so much of Skyrim's launch reception with my knowledge of the series in tow.

That said, reviewers who post praise reviews with little to no details as to why they liked said product are a dime a dozen phenomenon on Goodreads and other sites with open posting policies. When it comes to the "pros"...well, I don't expect many of them to ask serious questions or look too deeply at new Bethesda games, not until enough time has passed or enough memes have been immortalized.

 

[Lexx]

We should have a subforum for Underrail instead, it's infinitely closer to what the article says this community loves so much than any of the sand box amusement parks Bethesda makes.

I am scared of a million new subforums. The forum is kinda a mess already right now and I hate to browse the frontpage and I hate to browse the thread list... shit's hard to read and looks super messy to me. @Korin, you should somehow fix this shit with magic or whatever.

 

[TorontoReign]

We should have a subforum for Underrail instead, it's infinitely closer to what the article says this community loves so much than any of the sand box amusement parks Bethesda makes.

I am scared of a million new subforums. The forum is kinda a mess already right now and I hate to browse the frontpage and I hate to browse the thread list... shit's hard to read and looks super messy to me. @Korin, you should somehow fix this shit with magic or whatever.

Should get rid of the RPG forum. Project is dead.

 

[naossano]

Pardon me for using this website as an example, but when you click on the "+" on the right of each subsection, you can show it. If you click on the "-", you only have the title of the subsection. If you click on the "+" of multiple subsections, you can only see those you want to see, and ignore the others.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/

It is better to separate things than to have a gigantic mess...

For those that love the mess and want to see everything no matter the subsection, you could implement a button to only see new messages no matter their category. It is already used in many forums.

 

[PlanHex]

Pardon me for using this website as an example, but when you click on the "+" on the right of each subsection, you can show it. If you click on the "-", you only have the title of the subsection. If you click on the "+" of multiple subsections, you can only see those you want to see, and ignore the others.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/

It is better to separate things than to have a gigantic mess...

For those that love the mess and want to see everything no matter the subsection, you could implement a button to only see new messages no matter their category. It is already used in many forums.

I'm confused. These features already exist on this forum?
There are little arrows to the right of every forum section that will hide/show that section when clicked.
And there's the "get all new posts" button at the top for the second thing.

 

[naossano]

Then, why complaining about having to many subsections ?

 

[Dead Guy]

He never did? Lexx did.