Kotaku profiles No Mutants Allowed and hating Fallout 3

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  1. Dead Guy

    Dead Guy Senate Board Director oTO Moderator Orderite

    Nov 9, 2008
    He never did? Lexx did.
     
  2. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Augmented Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    This is why people have a problem with some new fans. Huge Fallout fan. Doesn't like the original games.

    :whatever:

    https://youtu.be/apxBVp8Br8g

    Doesn't like reading. Fuck. Skyrim has good reading though, huh? Enjoys shitty glitches in Bethesda games.
     
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  3. Lexx

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    Apr 24, 2005
    You can only hide forum board categories, you can't hide each board separate. For example, I can't hide the RPG board, I can't hide FanFic and I can't hide other boards I have zero interest in.

    On mobile I can't hide them at all.
     
  4. peadar87

    peadar87 Still Mildly Glowing

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    I don't know, it all seems pretty reasonable to me. Appreciates the writing and the story, gave them a fair shot, but in spite of himself, found he didn't particularly enjoy them.

    I have a lot of sympathy for this, as it somewhat echoes my own experience. I started with New Vegas, loved it. Then played FO3, enjoyed it, but realised how deeply flawed it was. Then went out and hunted down 1 and 2. While I thought the writing and storyline for each of those was brilliant (for the most part), I found the interface and gameplay a little clunky, and the pacing a little "off" for want of a better word, which means that in spite of their qualities, New Vegas is still my favourite Fallout game.
     
  5. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Augmented Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Having problems with too much reading in RPG's to me is like arguing that platformers have too many jumps.
     
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  6. peadar87

    peadar87 Still Mildly Glowing

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    To be fair, you can't force people to like classic Fallout. If people don't like it, they don't like it, and the best you can hope for is for them not to be dicks about it. This guys is perfectly polite, says he can see they are good games, but that he just couldn't get into them, and offers some reasons why they weren't for him personally.

    That is worlds apart from the typical Bethesda fanboy who has never even tried 1 and 2, and screeches about how New Vegas sucked (not that they just didn't like it, that it is objectively terrible) because none of the factions were Boyscouts of Steel and they had to side with somebody who might have been morally complex in order to complete the game.
     
  7. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Augmented Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    By no means was he rude or wrong for thinking the way he does. It just speaks to the type of fan the new Fallout games cater to. Less dialog. More action. I respect him for the way he presented his arguments at least.
     
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  8. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Modern gaming culture is garbage.
     
  9. Moosick

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    It'd be nice if the average gamer would be more interested in games are something more than shooty gun at the nasty terrorist. The indie crowd is the only place anything interesting really happens (bar Alien Isolation which was actually good).
     
  10. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

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    I kind of agree with this. I mean Fallout 3 really did suck. Fallout 4 I really hope not so much. I wonder what they Fallout series would be like if InExile bought the rights to Fallout. Think it'd go back to the old turn based combat method? But overall they may call us cantankerous but we do hate because we love. Fallout 3 may as well be the Red headed step child.
     
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    If movies and literature had such Sycophantic "critics" and audiences as the video game industry Michael Bay and Dan Brown would be the most celebrated "artists" of the last 10 years.
     
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  12. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Well, their sales figures are pretty damn high.
     
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  13. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    But nobody defends them as artists, at least no one in their right mind.
     
  14. fred2

    fred2 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Expecting a lot of reading in AAA game is like arguing that Michael Bay movies have too much special effects explosion and not enough philosophical discussions ;)
     
  15. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    Expecting Fred2 to agree with TorontRayne & Walpnut is like expecting Todd Howard to be faithfull to the games he make sequels.
     
  16. 5545Trey

    5545Trey Underground Deviant

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    Many members here could not care less whether or not some people dislike the classic games, as we do not force people to change their opinions on them. I know you are not implying this, but I just want to know what was the point of that sentence. Also, as long as those people do not come off as entitled cunts, then I am okay with them expressing their distaste in Classic Fallout.

    I like the fact that the author's argument was not "hurr durr, take off your rose-tinted glasses off. Fallout 1 and 2 are outdated products from long dead era." Reading the article is a small portion of a breath of fresh air because the "nostalgia/rose-tinted glasses" argument is the worst argument anyone could ever make. Period.
     
  17. peadar87

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    It was addressed more to Totontrayne's comment on the video he linked to: "This is why people have a problem with some new fans". The guy in the video was polite and balanced, the only thing more you could have asked from him would be to have liked the games.
     
  18. Marionettetc

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  19. Moosick

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    tbh the long dead thing applies to FP games from that era too. I could go on for hours about how MGS is literally the only game series that hasn't totally ripped off Thief 1/2 for stealth mechanics. And then they released Thi4f and turned Garret into Bruce Wayne. I swear when the announcer said that Dishonored was great for its unique look, gameplay and mechanics I nearly cried.

    THAT SAID, it's obvious that Bethedsa (not obsidian) are more interested in appropriating the flesh of Fallout and wearing it like skin suit while it pours buckets of water into the well they've filled with their other games so it's almost a spiritual successor as opposed to a direct sequel cause nobody thought about the '3' in the title when it came out except basement dwellers and people who were genuinely interested. Kind of how TES basically starts with Oblivion for most people now.

    it rubs the rads into the skin or else it gets the ghouls again
     
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  20. fred2

    fred2 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Why would you put TorontRayne with Welpnut together?! And just because I wish that some people would figure out the fine art of

    ..doesn't mean I disagree with them, however, I do try to point out certain facts when people going on a bandwagon ride.
     
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