Alphadrop
A right proper chap.
@#!%ing Tunnelers, how do they die?
Taken to running around in circles firing a flare gun while ED-E kills them.
Taken to running around in circles firing a flare gun while ED-E kills them.
Emptying multiple clips from the SMMG into their faces seemed to work well enough for me.
Surf Solar
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
The Automatic Rifle from Dead Money (which I always carry, my favorite weapon) eats through them like butter. 
I by the way really liked those creatures. They are typically Avellone-y, very borderline if it fits into Fallout at all or not, and could be a major threat eventually. Liked that.
I by the way really liked those creatures. They are typically Avellone-y, very borderline if it fits into Fallout at all or not, and could be a major threat eventually. Liked that.
Used Red Glare to fire as fast as possible as many rockets as possible into them. Got so much ammo for the weapon, that I didn't cared if it's a waste of ammo. The rockets at least kept them away from me while they died from the explosive radius.
The Enclave 86
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Surf Solar said:
An Eyebot as a remote launch unit? Doesn't sound realistic, I believe that Ulysses needed ED-E's ability to hack consoles - which Whitley mentions in his logs - for him to bypass the pre-war encryptions; we are talking about launching a nuclear missile after all and unlike Ashton - who's lanuch appeared to be interupted after authorisation - the main launch site didn't appear to have been prepared for launch.
I think it's more likely that someone was looking to destroy the Divide with the package or the Courier found something related to the pre-war facilities there and got curious as to what it would do; the package itself must have been a really rare find, if it was pre-war military hardware it must have been for remotely launching the missiles which caused them to explode underground because the silo doors wouldn't have been opened.
Kind of makes to scratch my head too that the NCR's only interest in the place was as a supply line, seems to me like the Nuclear Stockpile there might have interested them more, might even have been a good source for the Brotherhood War if it had occured earlier in the timeline then 2277.
But what if nobody knew about all the nuclear rockets? It was under the earth, after all. If the silo doors and all is locked up enough, probably nobody was able to get into it until everything exploded.
Ulysses needing ED-E's hacking skills to decrypt the military encoding sounds reasonable, rather than ED-E carrying codes to activate the Hopeville-Ashton nuclear silos.
And yes, I don't think anyone knew of the nuclear stockpile at the Divide, most likely no one would even look for them as even before the disaster the Divide was already being plagued with earthquakes and the storms caused by the Big MT's weather station.
Truth be told, I am not sure what the NCR would want with a nuclear arsenal.
Caesar's Legion is indeed a great threat but resorting to use nuclear weapons again to bomb Arizona, that would be an act of desperation, and not one that would win NCR much favor.
And yes, I don't think anyone knew of the nuclear stockpile at the Divide, most likely no one would even look for them as even before the disaster the Divide was already being plagued with earthquakes and the storms caused by the Big MT's weather station.
Truth be told, I am not sure what the NCR would want with a nuclear arsenal.
Caesar's Legion is indeed a great threat but resorting to use nuclear weapons again to bomb Arizona, that would be an act of desperation, and not one that would win NCR much favor.
The Enclave 86
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
The Dutch Ghost said:
Come now, you honestly believe that the NCR wouldn't use nuclear weapons and not even as a last resort? By 2281, if they could literally press a button and make the Legion go away I have no doubt that they would. It's taking the easy way out, the NCR is getting into trouble and the next thing you know it's Canticle for Leibowitz territory.
If not the NCR, you'd think the Brotherhood would like to have a look at the place, even crippled as they are. Hell they should have been there well before the NCR, since apparently they send out wide-ranging foraging parties all over the continent nowadays.
DevilTakeMe
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Brother None said:
I don't know about foraging, but certainly an occasional scout here and there.
130 miles is pretty far for anyone to hoof it, even in a small group without supplies of their own into what's essentially "Death Valley". Even Primm and Goodsprings are quite far out of the way, according to Veronica (one of those foragers).
I can see a Scout trying to blaze a trail through there (I did find the corpse of one such adventurer from the Hub) or take a look through the place. Or maybe a couple Paladins who tried to look through the place, but knowing their survival rate out in the open (the dead paladins at Black Mountain, Repconn, etc.), it's likely that any Brotherhood who did show up, and wasn't Christine, never reported back in.
Elijah wouldn't be interested in Nukes, seeing as they would destroy his precious technology as well as the people he wants to kill.
As for the Brotherhood not being there before the NCR, we don't know. We can assume the Brotherhood-NCR war had something to do with that, but Lonesome Road gives no details about the place before the destruction aside from Ulysses falling in love with a place with Old World Values that could build a new nation from the ashes of the old.
VRaptor117
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Alphadrop said:
I like all of the suggestions posted so far (SMMG with 10mm JHP, AR with .308 HP or .308 JSP, flare gun) but you guys are missing the best one yet:
10s of satchel charges laid out, lure them into the mine field, then throw flashbangs, then...Industrial Hand the shit out of 'em.
Needs a little setup, but very satisfying.
Flashbangs, then the SMMG.
Takes very good care of those bastards.
Takes very good care of those bastards.
Alphadrop
A right proper chap.
Main problem was I kept getting snuck up on by a venemous one which then two shotted me.
Just used a blooper grenade launcher to knock them over and a 12mm to finish em off.
Next time I'll remember to buy ammo for my weapons.
Just used a blooper grenade launcher to knock them over and a 12mm to finish em off.
Next time I'll remember to buy ammo for my weapons.
Alphadrop said:
Flare gun and a riot shotgun loaded with slugs does the trick.
Alphadrop
A right proper chap.
Turns out they're a lot easier once you remember you have Project Nevada on. Suddenly I don't get one or two shotted so often (usually only when I say hello to mr. satchel charge.)
The flare gun can really screw with the a.i, that elevator ride was so easy once I herded them onto one side with it.
Also I now get what everyones saying about Ulysses, comes across as an insane or rather dim plonker.
The flare gun can really screw with the a.i, that elevator ride was so easy once I herded them onto one side with it.
Also I now get what everyones saying about Ulysses, comes across as an insane or rather dim plonker.
DevilTakeMe said:
well if there is one thing that Fallout 3 did (and Vegas as well) it is to give us an extremely bad sense of "size". Everything really everything is so small and close to each other that its absolutely impossible (for me at least) to believe the locations would be desolate or anything like that
KillgoreKillmore
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Crni Vuk said:
I wish they had taken a note from Oblivion and made the map size larger, I mean I remember it took me 45 minutes to get to the first quest walking there.
KillgoreKillmore said:
I don't think Oblivion's map size was larger, there was just less in it so it seemed bigger.
Surf Solar
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Trivia: This song fits quit nicely to LR.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrE5OCRgfSg[/youtube]
In the intro an old man speaks a monologue, saying "and the flags were all dead at the top of their poles". Would've loved Ulysses saying that.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrE5OCRgfSg[/youtube]
In the intro an old man speaks a monologue, saying "and the flags were all dead at the top of their poles". Would've loved Ulysses saying that.