Russia attacks Ukraine

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by DarkCorp, Feb 24, 2022.

  1. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    People should learn what they packed because of what little resistance they expected.

    - 60 bullets and 2 mags. one in the gun and a back up. some guys has only had 1 mag.
    - a can of beans.
    - a days worth of water if they were lucky.
    - All had Dress Uniforms for the inevitable victory parade in the streets of Kiev.
     
  2. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Yeah, there is actuall footage of their preperation before battle.

     
  3. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

    Apr 7, 2014
  4. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign ⛧卐⛧ Staff Member Moderator [REDACTED]

    Apr 1, 2005
  5. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    Sounds like some kind of chemical exposure.
     
  6. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022...utive-flees-russia-to-join-ukraine-war-a77500
     
  7. eissa

    eissa Artanis "Altáriel" Nerwen Nos Finwe

    Jan 7, 2016
     
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  8. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    According to some think tanks out there, the formula you need is 1 Soldier per 50 citizen, quote : A recent Rand Corp. study by military analyst James Quinlivan concluded that the bare minimum ratio to provide security for the inhabitants of an occupied territory, let alone deal with an active insurgency, is one to 50.

    I have serious doubts the Russian military actually has the manpower and resources here to secure those Regions in the long term. Particularly the further west Russia goes the more likely will they encounter active ressistance. But instead of withdrawing it will probably lead to more escalation. As we've been seeing already happening with the Russian military concentrating their fire also on more civilian targets.

    All of this will not end pretty. And it won't be over soon.
     
  9. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Wouldn't it be the Ukraine holding the particular regions against an insurrection? They were supposed to be Russia-friendly in the first place.
    But yeah, Russia trying to conquer the entire Ukraine is not going to be fun for them.
    Heh, remember when a war just stopped when the government surrendered? Now it's like "Nah, jungle and sandbox showed that if you just keep on with guerrilla warfare you can just make shit go away. And nobody actually has a big enough army to stop such an insurrection".
     
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  10. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

    Apr 7, 2014
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  11. eissa

    eissa Artanis "Altáriel" Nerwen Nos Finwe

    Jan 7, 2016
  12. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Collaborators *are* gonna happen, even ethnic Ukrainians will sell their own people out - happens everywhere, in every war. When the Germans invaded Norway, the traitors were just Norwegians, not German-Norwegians or any such. Just traitor scum.

    That said, yeah - there will be tons of rampant anti-Russian sentiment, seen stories of Russians harassed in Kazakhstan, for example - and to Russia, this is a boon; free propaganda - "Look, more liberation needed!"
    We have significant Russian diaspora in Norway, in particular _a whole Russian town_ in Svalbard, that the Russians very, very deliberately maintain as an incentive for invasion - so to "liberate" them.
     
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  13. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    They are struggling so much with just part of Ukraine. Maybe they can take that little region in Moldova if they work across the south, but kinda seems like they'd be heading for another collapse if it went further than that.
     
  14. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Transnistria is essentially same as Donbass - it already is functionally independent, and already occupied by Russian "peace-keeping" forces, and Russia would only have to connect Transnistria to Russian-occupied Ukraine to make it contigous.
    That's why I got so aggitated some time ago, when people were war-drumming about Russian "plans to invade Moldova" - I mean, they might, they're clearly fucking stupid - but there's no need to _invade_ Transnistria, since they are already pro-Russian and already occupied by Russian forces.
     
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  15. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Security Measure OR Human Rights Abuse?



    Have you actually seen how small Putins dick is by now? There is a need.
     
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  16. donperkan

    donperkan Vault Fossil

    Aug 4, 2011
    In a war, heroes die for their country while traitors die for their beliefs
     
  17. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Maybe with combatants, because that requires some conviction. Others are just insecure shits, who's "time to shine" has finally come

    Locally, our most notorious traitor was exactly that - this self-loathing dude. Nothing I've read of him suggests he had much conviction of anything, other than being a kind of self-imposed social reject, short and dark and awkward, he had been rejected from the Finnish military, when he tried to fight in the Winter war, before that, he made a cretin of himself stealing from his family.
    German recruiters noticed him "from a mile away" and immediately flattered him up - employing him as a henchman and torturer, making him a leader of his own street-gang.
    Even as he went around torturing locals in his little torture dungeon - personally killing at least 40 people (plus over a 1000 cases of torture + deportations to German camps), this wasn't enough for his fragile ego, and he had to make up stories about journes into Murmansk, where he killed tons of communists, and was decorated with a buch of medals. His name is still associated with not only treason (along with Quisling, our Hitler-loving prime minister at the time!) but also this sense of pathetic, aimless, self-serving sadism, as soon as he was given the chance. Hateful man. Blindfolded, tied up and shot in 1947 (:D)
     
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  18. donperkan

    donperkan Vault Fossil

    Aug 4, 2011
    Of course, everyone who choose the loosing side must be demonized by the victors. How else do we justify the horrible things we had to do in order to win?
     
  19. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Um, who's being "demonized"?
    Like, if you have a torture-dungeon, you're pretty much demonizing yourself, you need no help to appear derranged.
     
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  20. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

    Apr 7, 2014
    amid fears that Russia is gonna try to provoke conflict in Moldova. Moldova is a member of the EU. if Russia pushes for an invasion of Moldova next. will all of Europe get involved then?