Russian-Ukrainian war

Well LA, when someone asks for your help, in this case, the FSA/SMC, you can do your research and decide yes or no. The future is unknowable. We did ours in good faith expecting the rebels to handle their shit.

It is generally expected to not judge one person for anothers crimes. Just because there are radical islamists doesn't necessarily mean all muslims are radicals. We are touching close to racism here.

Given hindsight is 20/20, I agreed with Crni we should just stay FAR AWAY from the ME, minus Israel. They embraced us while others hated us. Whatever the reasons for us being in the ME in the first place, we have an obligation to Israel.

I agree democracy isn't for everyone and our actions are hardly done out of altruism. But as Crni has pointed out, thats everyone. As said before, I'm no murrican.
 
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Well now, since this is now some who is right thread, lets get it a bit back on topic.

T-90A (Russia only) in Ukraine, looks like it either saw light service, or drove A LOT. I also have pictures of that same T-90A, but intact on a road.

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(Welded turret is a dead giveaway it's a T-90A. SHTORA is a bonus it's Russian)

Also, top tier Irony here, Neo nazis (Azov Battalion) using BS-3:

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DarkCorp said:
Well LA, when someone asks for your help, in this case, the FSA/SMC, you can do your research and decide yes or no. The future is unknowable. We did ours in good faith expecting the rebels to handle their shit.

It is generally expected to not judge one person for anothers crimes. Just because there are radical islamists doesn't necessarily mean all muslims are radicals. We are touching close to racism here.

Given hindsight is 20/20, I agreed with Crni we should just stay FAR AWAY from the ME, minus Israel. They embraced us while others hated us. Whatever the reasons for us being in the ME in the first place, we have an obligation to Israel.

I agree democracy isn't for everyone and our actions are hardly done out of altruism. But as Crni has pointed out, thats everyone. As said before, I'm no murrican.
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The rest of the ME hated America because they helped Israel.
 
Dr Fallout said:
DarkCorp said:
Well LA, when someone asks for your help, in this case, the FSA/SMC, you can do your research and decide yes or no. The future is unknowable. We did ours in good faith expecting the rebels to handle their shit.

It is generally expected to not judge one person for anothers crimes. Just because there are radical islamists doesn't necessarily mean all muslims are radicals. We are touching close to racism here.

Given hindsight is 20/20, I agreed with Crni we should just stay FAR AWAY from the ME, minus Israel. They embraced us while others hated us. Whatever the reasons for us being in the ME in the first place, we have an obligation to Israel.

I agree democracy isn't for everyone and our actions are hardly done out of altruism. But as Crni has pointed out, thats everyone. As said before, I'm no murrican.
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The rest of the ME hated America because they helped Israel.
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USSR helped us more than the West in the early years overall. But that's to be expected. We did act against Britain after all.
 
Mohamed2001 said:
Dr Fallout said:
DarkCorp said:
Well LA, when someone asks for your help, in this case, the FSA/SMC, you can do your research and decide yes or no. The future is unknowable. We did ours in good faith expecting the rebels to handle their shit.

It is generally expected to not judge one person for anothers crimes. Just because there are radical islamists doesn't necessarily mean all muslims are radicals. We are touching close to racism here.

Given hindsight is 20/20, I agreed with Crni we should just stay FAR AWAY from the ME, minus Israel. They embraced us while others hated us. Whatever the reasons for us being in the ME in the first place, we have an obligation to Israel.

I agree democracy isn't for everyone and our actions are hardly done out of altruism. But as Crni has pointed out, thats everyone. As said before, I'm no murrican.
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The rest of the ME hated America because they helped Israel.
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USSR helped us more than the West in the early years overall. But that's to be expected. We did act against Britain after all.
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The USSR got more influence in the ME but lost it after Afghanistan, their Vietnam.
 
I'm aware that being overly skeptical isn't exactly popular in many civil war discussions... but how can we know that the tank is in Ukraine? We see a tree. And a field. I guess the only way to prove it if it's a tree only found in the Donbass. Did the photo of the tank on the road show any kind of details by which we could be certain of its location?
 
LordAshur said:
I'm aware that being overly skeptical isn't exactly popular in many civil war discussions... but how can we know that the tank is in Ukraine? We see a tree. And a field. I guess the only way to prove it if it's a tree only found in the Donbass. Did the photo of the tank on the road show any kind of details by which we could be certain of its location?
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1 - The old pictures of it had it in Ukraine, with several evidence that it's in Ukraine, I'll link them, sec.

2 - The Russian Army certainly does not have tanks in a condition that bad.

There you go.

Some might be obvious photoshops, but most are solid.
 
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Where did I read that... ? That American spies were sometimes outed by their fatness...

Probably the combination of obviously fake mustache, trucker cap, big sunglasses, newspaper with peek-holes cut out, and 250 kilos of fat
 
And just why would they take a picture of themselves pointing at a road sign? And the conclusion that the guy pointing at the sign is next to a T-90 because... an ammo box? If they were going to self incriminate in such way they might as well take a picture of the whole tank. Maybe if the guy was the same as in the other pictures or something, or even looked like a Russian conscript like the ones in the pictures with the T-90's instead of a guerrilla. I don't know, I'm going to remain as skeptical about it as I am of the supernatural...

And even if it is true... about damn time Donbass militias got better support from Russia :)
 
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Gonzalez said:
And just why would they take a picture of themselves pointing at a road sign? And the conclusion that the guy pointing at the sign is next to a T-90 because... an ammo box? If they were going to self incriminate in such way they might as well take a picture of the whole tank. Maybe if the guy was the same as in the other pictures or something, or even looked like a Russian conscript like the ones in the pictures with the T-90's instead of a guerrilla. I don't know, I'm going to remain as skeptical about it as I am of the supernatural...

And even if it is true... about damn time Donbass militias got better support from Russia :)
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We'll see I guess. So far, no T-90A was found captured nor destroyed nor abandoned. So if it saw combat, and that's a big if, it showed itself pretty well.
 
A question for Mohammed.

Let us go for an ideal solution. What, if anything, would the ME want from foreign interests?
 
zegh8578 said:
Where did I read that... ? That American spies were sometimes outed by their fatness...

Probably the combination of obviously fake mustache, trucker cap, big sunglasses, newspaper with peek-holes cut out, and 250 kilos of fat
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Sounds like beautiful slavic woman.
 
May I?

You know things are screwed when leaders of some of the biggest Humanitarian groups support drones, bombing in Syria and military intervention by Nato.

The three things that gives them shit to do... and they want more of that.
 
The Dopamine Cleric said:
zegh8578 said:
Where did I read that... ? That American spies were sometimes outed by their fatness...

Probably the combination of obviously fake mustache, trucker cap, big sunglasses, newspaper with peek-holes cut out, and 250 kilos of fat
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Sounds like beautiful slavic woman.
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Did you ever see a slavic woman? :irked:

Dr Fallout said:
May I?

You know things are screwed when leaders of some of the biggest Humanitarian groups support drones, bombing in Syria and military intervention by Nato.

The three things that gives them shit to do... and they want more of that.
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But if less bad shit was to happen, how could they feel as valuable as they do now for whining against it?
 
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