So...drugs

Mani should be banned for going against the strong Christian values of NMA.

I think our values stem not so much from religion as much as self-preservation. Everyone seems to be against drugs for their effect on your health. If everyone were doing it for religious reasons you wouldnt have multiple threads devoted or derailed into talking about masterbation, pRon, and sex.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
Why is it TVD, that I take you more seriously with a "normal" looking avatar, rather than that weird Santa one you had before? Even if what you say isn't "too" serious?
 
I disapprove of drugs use (and all other chemical abuse) not because they ruin your health (if you take drugs you deserve your health to be ruined), or because "drugs are bad, m'kay", but because they make people retarded, and people are retarded enough as it is.
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
I disapprove of drugs use (and all other chemical abuse) not because they ruin your health (if you take drugs you deserve your health to be ruined), or because "drugs are bad, m'kay", but because they make people retarded, and people are retarded enough as it is.

Television, music, religion, society, sport, simple hobbies...

Everything can have similar effects on the person doing the stuff mentioned above. It's about what satisfies you. It's all about the balance. Everything can be harmfull and adictive if you lose the discipline. Think about it.
 
Vox said:
Television, music, religion, society, sport, simple hobbies...

Everything can have similar effects on the person doing the stuff mentioned above. It's about what satisfies you. It's all about the balance. Everything can be harmfull and adictive if you lose the discipline. Think about it.

Why, that's sage. Alcohol makes people retarded in minutes, but knitting can drive people retarded in a decade if you let it run rampant! Clearly we're talking kets and pottles!

KQX said:
Mani should be banned for going against the strong Christian values of NMA.

Everyone who posted in this thread is banned for lack of commitment to Sparkle Motion.
 
Mani said:
There's nothing wrong with doing a little coke, speed or extacy now and then and the people who tell you not to are usually born again christian scum who preach nothing but hatred.

Yeah. Or people who've seen lives ruined or lost because of "a little coke".

"Hey, mang, let's go to the beach and take some GHB!"
"Sure, dude, have a beer too."
"I totally can't feel my legs anymore!"
"Dude's been paramagdised"
"AAAAAAGH!"

Just sayin'

PS: talking about drugs, in real life but especially online, tends to to degrade into stupid dickswinging.
 
Wooz said:
Suaside said:
you saying you never tried anything at all?
a globetrotting arty farty multinationality mofo like you?
i find that rather hard to believe Smile
I think you mistook Ratty with someone else.
ahum, you are correct. let's say it's a delayed effect from my drug experiments, mkay?

Ratty said:
a globetrotting arty farty multinationality mofo like you?
Errr, I'm Ratty, the Croatian Computer Science nerd. Wooz is the multinational artsy-fartsy guy. :)
i know! i know...

i hope no one smelled the brainfart.

i'm guessing it was because i was browsing multiple threads at a time. i'm still running on a non-HT non-multicore processor, time to get an upgrade. ;)

DirtyDreamDesigner said:
I disapprove of drugs use (and all other chemical abuse) not because they ruin your health (if you take drugs you deserve your health to be ruined), or because "drugs are bad, m'kay", but because they make people retarded, and people are retarded enough as it is.
so you're a straight edge veganist? :p


on a different note, while we're whining about drugs and religion: they once did an experiment with very religious (baptist?) people and they fed them XTC or LSD. after that, they all described it as a religious epifany. touched by god and other such nonsense.

(does that mean Jezus was a druggy that made off with Maria's money after rising from the grave?)
 
We-ell, Hallucinegenous mushrooms were used in certain rituals in medieval times. They were reserved for priests of high rank, though.
 
SuAside said:
i'm guessing it was because i was browsing multiple threads at a time. i'm still running on a non-HT non-multicore processor, time to get an upgrade. ;)

i'm not interested in your fucking excuses.

BANNED.
 
I took drugs, a LOT when I was younger, back in highschool. I'm a pretty damn smart guy, but I look back and tell myself how stupid I was, for smoking weed every day, for doing extascy every weekend, for bouncing off the walls cause I snorted aderall. (a prescription aphedamine, supposed to help focus, but when you overdose it acts like speed on your body)

Now.... I only drink on the weekends. I might smoke a bowl like once every one or two months. I never want to go back to that drug craze... I was a bad person when I was on all that junk. It also drains your bank account, I held a job during highschool for the sole purpose of buying drugs. Extascy was the worst, costs about 25-40 bucks a "roll" (1 pill). Sometimes I would spend 150 bucks in one night on the stuff. Also, that stuff really fucks up your head, it makes "holes" in your brain. Basically, it makes parts of your brain stop functioning, so when you get a CAT scan, it looks like big holes in your brain when you look at the scanning results.

Also, you CAN drop dead the first time you do ex. Not in the way anti-drug paraphanelia wants you to think, no, you won't take the pill and drop dead 5 minutes later... what happens is ex dehydrates you really fast. Then you want to go out and dance. Next thing you know, your body can't handle the strain of dehydration and exhertion, and you are on the ground having a heat stroke. You die 10 minutes later because everyone is too high to notice or have the mental capacity to call 911. I've seen it happen first hand and it got me to quit. If you want to completely ignore my advice, fine, but make sure you drink plenty of water when you are on the stuff or YOU WILL DIE. Don't be a retard and mix the stuff with alcohol either, it just adds to the dehydration and increases your chance of heat stroke.

I'm still a smart guy, I quit all that bad stuff before any really bad damage was delt to my head... but there is damage there. Just from a few years of doing drugs, my mind is definately not all there. Last night, I caught myself putting ketchup away.. in a closet, not the fridge. I was sober at the time, and I do stupid shit like that on a daily basis. Once I spent about 5 minutes looking for my keys. They were in my hand the whole time.

So you ask yourself... is it worth doing drugs and having fun, and doing permanant damage to your brain? You want to end up like ozzy? Watch a episode of the osbornes and take a good look at that fucker. His mind is GONE, and it is all thanks to drugs.
 
Mani said:
There's nothing wrong with doing a little coke, speed or extacy now and then and the people who tell you not to are usually born again christian scum who preach nothing but hatred.

Ahh, but there is. There is an unseen cost to drug use that most people tend to forget; who is getting the money for your buying "a little coke, speed or extacy now and then".

Trafficking in illicit drugs tends to be associated with the commission of violent crimes for the competition of drug markets and disputes among individuals involved in the illegal drug market. In order to re-establish the rule of law and fight down the anarchy there is a need for more police, jails, and courts. The money used to fund these legal systems comes from taxes of the citizens.

I know what you are thinking. Instead of harping on the costs of drug prevention, save the money by legalizing it. With no violations prohibiting or regulating the possession, use, distribution, or manufacture of illegal drugs things would be great. No more need for all those cops and courts and trial lawyers. The U.S. Bureau of the Census conducted surveys of State and Federal prison inmates for the Bureau of Justice Statistics and the Bureau of Prisons found the majority of prison inmates reported they were under the influence of drugs at the time of their offense. This same set of studies also found that a huge majority of crimes were committed to obtain money (or goods to sell to get money) to support drug use. Instead of tax money being spent on arresting those with the drugs, it gets spent on combating those who commit crimes while under the effects of mind-altering drugs. Not much better.

Lets look at another way. Long term use of illegal drugs can lead to major health problems, and since long term drug users are unlikely to have the jobs that pay for health care, they burden the medical system for those that can, increasing the costs for everybody.

The effects of all drugs, including marijuana is impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and verbal and mathematical skills, even after the high as abated. Can these people hold highly complex jobs of engineers, doctors, programmers, architects. What do they contribute to society? Would Edison the pot smoker have created some 1093 inventions? Can you see a coke snorting Yoshiro Nakamatsu create some 3,000 inventions. Could Carl Koller even create cocaine if he had been high on extacy or marijuana?

Then again, I might be just another Christian scum who preaches nothing but hatred against the mindless, marching morons of modern civilization as parasites living off the achievements of others.

Drugs are for those who lack the strength or character to face reality.
 
Corith said:
Mani said:
There's nothing wrong with doing a little coke, speed or extacy now and then and the people who tell you not to are usually born again christian scum who preach nothing but hatred.

Ahh, but there is. There is an unseen cost to drug use that most people tend to forget; who is getting the money for your buying "a little coke, speed or extacy now and then".

Trafficking in illicit drugs tends to be associated with the commission of violent crimes for the competition of drug markets and disputes among individuals involved in the illegal drug market. In order to re-establish the rule of law and fight down the anarchy there is a need for more police, jails, and courts. The money used to fund these legal systems comes from taxes of the citizens.

I know what you are thinking. Instead of harping on the costs of drug prevention, save the money by legalizing it. With no violations prohibiting or regulating the possession, use, distribution, or manufacture of illegal drugs things would be great. No more need for all those cops and courts and trial lawyers. The U.S. Bureau of the Census conducted surveys of State and Federal prison inmates for the Bureau of Justice Statistics and the Bureau of Prisons found the majority of prison inmates reported they were under the influence of drugs at the time of their offense. This same set of studies also found that a huge majority of crimes were committed to obtain money (or goods to sell to get money) to support drug use. Instead of tax money being spent on arresting those with the drugs, it gets spent on combating those who commit crimes while under the effects of mind-altering drugs. Not much better.

Lets look at another way. Long term use of illegal drugs can lead to major health problems, and since long term drug users are unlikely to have the jobs that pay for health care, they burden the medical system for those that can, increasing the costs for everybody.

The effects of all drugs, including marijuana is impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and verbal and mathematical skills, even after the high as abated. Can these people hold highly complex jobs of engineers, doctors, programmers, architects. What do they contribute to society? Would Edison the pot smoker have created some 1093 inventions? Can you see a coke snorting Yoshiro Nakamatsu create some 3,000 inventions. Could Carl Koller even create cocaine if he had been high on extacy or marijuana?

Then again, I might be just another Christian scum who preaches nothing but hatred against the mindless, marching morons of modern civilization as parasites living off the achievements of others.

Drugs are for those who lack the strength or character to face reality.

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I've started 3 answers on this bullshit. Long and detailed ones. All of them lead to the fact, that you seem to be either uneducated (what can be fixed), or a stupid christian retard (what can be fixed since you live in the USA and you get guns everywhere).

So please. Stop writing such crap if you're not on the level to discuss certain stuff. For you own, and for humanity's sake.
 
You know what I agree with Corith, all of what he says is basically near truth. Just because you don't see the effect of drugs now, does not mean that they are not having any effects at all. Long term usage of these drugs really do fuck you well and truly over. I have said before, there was a good friend of mine who smoked the drug Marijuana constantly, and he ended up "offing" himself because the drug fucked him up. He was completely normal before, growing up in a similar family and relationships to I. He never spoke to me about ever feeling like a lunatic before he started smoking, but after, it was impossible to hold a decent conversation with him, let alone find him...

He actually started using it just to "test" it out, and then he somehow got hooked on the feeling of being high, and then killed himself because he was so messed up from using it.

But whatever. If you people think it is OK to use these drugs, go for it. Smoke, inject snort all the shit that will kill you, so the world may become a better place without you acting like cocks and doing incredibly stupid things whilst high.

Fuck it. These kind of topics always get me angry and I told myself to not even look at the topic when I saw it, but alas, I could not.

Time to get out of here before I say anything else to people who fund illegal drug rings etc.

So please. Stop writing such crap if you're not on the level to discuss certain stuff. For you own, and for humanity's sake.

So, you mean to say that people who may or may not be "educated" should stay out of the argument about drugs if they don't agree in there usage (illegal drugs of course)?? What kind of Brisbane bullshit is this :? ??
 
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