State of gaming: Early 2017. "Mass Effect Andromeda"

Walpknut said:
Uh no, why would you want to take options away from people?

The problem with gaming is that it's getting too homogenous on the mainstream side, everything used to be a Linear cinematic shooter last gen, now everything is an open world with "activities". We should promote the growth of the indie scene and smaller non AAA games.
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Games in the 'old days' rarely had 2 sexes for main characters, and if they did, they didn't have all the animation (female models are usually smaller, need different animations, etc), modelling, and voice acting issues.

I think its nicer when a character has a canon gender/sex.
 
I say we need a balance of open World and linear.

The problem is, most companies have gone the rockstar route and just have collectibles, but didn't understand that the story in those games were usually a sort of tutorial for the Player to fuck around with in the sandbox.

If there's anything I can actually praise Bethesda for is at least their games have side content that at least offer something new outside of 'Get this gold star' even through that content may not be very good.

I find that some games kind of do worthwhile side content, like Final Fantasy XV for example and Phantom Pain.

However, we will always have the CODs which don't let you out of aggressive scripted events.

I would personally like to see COD games get a bit more open, and Assassin's creed games to have a variety of side quests.

I've started playing ARMA recently and I kind of like how it treats its open World.

Each mission takes place in a set location where you can use the tools given to you to play around with its sandbox.
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
Games in the 'old days' rarely had 2 sexes for main characters, and if they did, they didn't have all the animation (female models are usually smaller, need different animations, etc), modelling, and voice acting issues.

I think its nicer when a character has a canon gender/sex.
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I think it goes by a case by case basis, games didn't use to have fucking graphics and were reprensented by blocks of text on a black screen and you had to run DOS script lines to get them to run, wanna try use that as an argument too? You are basically arguing for LESS variety, which is pretty stupid.
 
I like the option of picking male or female.
It adds something to the game.

One of my weird issues with Planescape is that I don't get that option which kind of takes me out of the D&D experience a little.
 
Millim said:
One of my weird issues with Planescape is that I don't get that option which kind of takes me out of the D&D experience a little.
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In case you didn't know, Interplay published Baldur's Gate dilogy, just for you.
Millim said:
I like the option of picking male or female.
It adds something to the game.
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Only it adds nothing if it's a cosmetic change. Even in Age of Decadence, you'd think it'll add some reactions and alternative paths, but nope. Purely cosmetic. Considering it's character models, it adds nothing.

All this raises a question - which modern RPG ever does something with gender options? Numenera adds a quest for female PC, but what others do?
 
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0wing said:
All this raises a question - which modern RPG ever does something with gender options? Numenera adds a quest for female PC, but what others do?
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In Underrail, people across the gameworld would address you as brother (/bro), sister (/sis), lad, lass, etc etc. Some specific NPC would also address the fact that you're a male/female, having a dialogue line or two changed accordingly. One particular NPC would seduce you if you're a male and, if you accept her invitation,
would fuck you up after stripping you to bare bones
.

Now that I think about this, considering the focus of the game, I'm now surprised how natural it felt. Too bad gender options didn't affect stats, considering the game was inspired by Arcanum.
 
0wing said:
In case you didn't know, Interplay published Baldur's Gate dilogy, just for you.

Only it adds nothing if it's a cosmetic change. Even in Age of Decadence, you'd think it'll add some reactions and alternative paths, but nope. Purely cosmetic. Considering it's character models, it adds nothing.

All this raises a question - which modern RPG ever does something with gender options? Numenera adds a quest for female PC, but what others do?
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Even if it just cosmetic, I don't mind.
(If it has actual differences, when better).

Also I know about Baldur's gate.
 
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/14/mass-effect-andromeda-review-opening-hours/

[...] The first few hours of Andromeda are a gruesome trudge through the most trite bilge of the previous three games, smeared out in a setting that’s horribly familiar, burdened with some outstandingly awful writing, buried beneath a UI that appears to have been designed to infuriate in every possible way.

[...] I’m at a loss. What I expect from BioWare is slightly dodgy combat, but splendid writing and characters. What I’ve seen so far is some decent enough combat (but nothing beyond what you’d expect in a third person shooter), and some of the most dreadful writing. I cannot emphasise enough how poor it’s been.
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:lmao:
 
0wing said:
All this raises a question - which modern RPG ever does something with gender options? Numenera adds a quest for female PC, but what others do?
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From the top of my head:
Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader has a part that if you play as a female Shakespeare flirts with you and gives you a unique ring. Although that game is 14 years old.
There is Fallout 2 of course, where females can screw a few characters for some benefits, can get raped by Myron (depending on SPECIAL values), will have a hard time to fight in boxing matches, they can can marry Miria or Davin (males can only marry Miria). Males can screw Angela, date Phyllis and can also donate sperm.
Both Fallout 3 and New Vegas have specific things dependent of gender (some examples: Flirting with Mr Burke, convince the guy who wants to bone Sierra (the crazy nuka cola girl) to go to the Nuka factory so he can have a threesome, females can't fight in Legion arena, sleep with Benny, etc).
Morrowind has some differences if you play a female (Nels Llendo encounter, Mistress Dratha hates men, etc).
Oblivion has gender alter the starting attributes (for example Khajiit males lose 10 Endurance while females lose 10 Strength).
Arcanum of Steamworks and Magick Obscura also has some differences between male and female character. Male Characters have no bonuses or penalties while female ones have a penalty on strength but have a bonus on Constitution. Female characters have access to the clothes that make people like them more (Elegant Dress) at the starting "store" while males can only buy those clothes (Smoking Jacket) later in the game. Also females do not have access to some races (Dwarves, Gnomes, Halflings, and Half-Ogres). I can't remember but I think there might be some dialogue and maybe a quest or two that are different if the main character is a female.
Harvest Moon Boy & Girl you can make offerings to some goddess and if you’re male you get a red power berry (which increases your stamina), if you're female, you get a piece of lumber worth 3000G. You can later get the same reward as the opposite gender but the initial order is different.
Harvest Moon 3 has some differences between playing a male or female character. Females start with a free cow and a brush, but cannot upgrade tools, while the male character can. Males have more stamina than the female. When the female character gets married the game ends, but the male character can continue the game after marriage.

I am old so I have no idea what games should be considered "modern". Also since I have been broke for many years, I haven't played more recent games (since they are expensive).
 
Risewild said:
I am old so I have no idea what games should be considered "modern". Also since I have been broke for many years, I haven't played more recent games (since they are expensive).
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The new wave of CRPGs started by Obsidian and Inxile in 2012-13 with KS. The examples above are the very first to come, plus anything on Gamebryo/NetImmerse can be safely considered "retro", even if it's Fallout 4.
 
I don't know how you guys stand this shit.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1352885
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_c7UHlwQvg5dU5OczBBUDFqcE0/view?usp=sharing
 
Like the clip with the Krogan getting a bottle broken on his head and he throws the chick to the ground. You can see her immediately freeze with her head looking away after she takes the swing, very sloppy.
 
I see all this stuff about Andromeda, and I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that I just do not care that it's coming out. I did really enjoy ME-ME3, yes even Mass Effect 3. The ending was awful, but everything besides that I thought was at the very least good. Then they felt the need to explain literally everything about the Reapers and it fell apart. Up until the ending and pick a color point, I thought that the ending was at least satisfying. Not perfect, but I was content with leaving it there. The way I often describe it to people is that I really enjoyed the trilogy until the last five minutes.

For Andromeda, all I can see leading up to it is the usual when it comes to upcoming AAA releases. There are people firmly on the hype train going out of their minds, the people who rightly have some concerns based off of pre-release material and marketing, and people who are just trying to tear it down for fun because it riles up that first group of people. There are of course other subsets but those are the ones that jump out at me in regards to the usual AAA release cycle.

Maybe I'm just out of touch with "gaming culture." I don't consider that any huge loss, but it's probably true. In the first week of January this year, I said asked one of my friends "Hey, do you know what games are coming out this year? Because I don't." He didn't know either. I think the last AAA game I actually bought was Dark Souls 3 last year, because I was invested in the series.

With Andromeda, I guess I'm just waiting for the hype train to go off the rails and crash, burn, and then be forgotten about.
 
Unless the reviews say its a peice of dogshit like colonial marines im still gonna buy it on launch and formulate my own opinion about it.

Animations are ass looking so far but thats only presentation and since I like bioware ill give them some benefit of the doubt and see how the game holds up once I got my hands on it.
 
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