The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Sky? Rim? Ive just realized how gay the name of this province is :D

now seriously.. TES was never revolutionary in terms of story or its theme so I dont care about if there gonna be dragons. I dont care if it is not gonna be original in any way. All I care about is if it wouldnt be as way so stupid and übergeneric as Oblivion was. So I wont prejudice until at last some gameplay is out.

And finally I am glad that Beth finally made some (technicaly) high quality render vid.

PS: I loved Morrowind and hated Oblivion and F3, but i dont want to be a "hater without cause"
Ausir said:
LiberNull said:
New TES will use Gamebyro?! OMGZWTF lolololol... thats
just so wrong...
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Actually, they've just announced that it's using a new engine:

http://twitter.com/Bethblog/status/14010984884604929
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Dr. Combat Shotgun said:
OK, Oblivion and F3 sucked big time. BUT, outside of wichers enchanted edition, name ONE good RPG in the last couple of years...
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Drakensang. Divinity II DKS. Avernum 6. New Vegas. etc. etc.

Everyone else is outqualitying Bethesda on RPGs. Even if Fallout 3 was an improvement on Oblivion.
 
Hm, I don't know if I should be excited or not.
I'm pretty shure that they won't bring back the more complex gameplay from Daggerfall and Morrowind, but I still got my hopes up for a good story and at least some enjoyable gameplay.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
Not gonna believe words here.

It was words that convinced people that Oblivion was impressive.

I want pictures and gameplay.

Gamepictures and ureplay.
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And even that will not help to convince me because they still can give you overhyped gameplay videos which do not show the "real" game how it works. Nor the reviews about Oblivion mentioned that once it was out. For example on the E3 Todd showed a game which never made it that way in the public. With NPCs interactions, dynamic dialogues (depending on your actions etc.). All those kind of things. Yet what we got was some kind of boring monologue.

I probably will not buy any TES game before I can get it for 5$.

Lexx said:
Imagine a "epic" big dragon battle... in their gamebryo engine.

It just will not work.
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An Dragon army of 5 vs 12 city soldiers representing the army of the land. How is that NOT epic ;)
 
Oh just to let you know, 'Dragonborn' which was said at the end of the trailer, means a descendant of Talos. So you get to be emperor or you meet one. And to reply to sea, becoming head of the guilds is earned and you do still have a few duties. I didn't like how you became head of an order with no other members, and all you got was some armour and a new line from the Imperial Guardsmen.
 
Brother None said:
Drakensang. Divinity II DKS. Avernum 6. New Vegas. etc. etc.
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Most of the games you mention here are rather small studios and/or niche games. I think the market around very expensive RPGs is dead. Since Bethesda and Bioware are somewhat the dominant developers or to say that the popular ones which have enough finances for advertising in TV even.

Divinity was not "bad" but it was not "good" either. Drakensang is dead more or less, thy have been bought by a company which makes web browser games and anounced that a potential drakensang 3 will NOT feature the dark eye PNP rule and they said they will go for "more action" (vey surprising ...), Avernum is a spiderweb game and clear niche. Only New Vegas is rather a popular team and game. But Obsidian has not the resources of either Bioware or Bethesda to say that. And Vegas shows that a bit.

I gave up on RPGs a while ago even though its my favourite game. But you just cant expect the same quality from those games anymore like a few years back not when you say what they do with Dragonage 2 for example. Or the Witcher 2.
 
White Knight said:
Oh just to let you know, 'Dragonborn' which was said at the end of the trailer, means a descendant of Talos. So you get to be emperor or you meet one. And to reply to sea, becoming head of the guilds is earned and you do still have a few duties. I didn't like how you became head of an order with no other members, and all you got was some armour and a new line from the Imperial Guardsmen.
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Still don't understand why the dragons would attack the Nords... the ones on Akavir were wiped out by the Snake-men, the ones in Vvardenfell by the Cliff-racers, and the rest are just isolationists.
 
I wonder if the "new and improved" engine has anything to do with the one used for Divinity 2 DKS. I've been unable to find any info on that. If it is, then it's not so bad; DKS is a lot more smooth and good-looking than Ego Draconis which ran on some version of Gamebryo.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Drakensang is dead more or less, thy have been bought by a company which makes web browser games and anounced that a potential drakensang 3 will NOT feature the dark eye PNP rule and they said they will go for "more action" (vey surprising ...),
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Yes and thats so fucking sad. It's the kind of rape Fallout experienced with POS...
 
sea said:
Maybe if you beat the game, Todd Howard will visit your house and give you a handjob.
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Meh. I think that would only be exciting if he was dressed as a dragon. Dragons make everything better.
 
Little Robot said:
sea said:
Maybe if you beat the game, Todd Howard will visit your house and give you a handjob.
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Meh. I think that would only be exciting if he was dressed as a dragon. Dragons make everything better.
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And was carrying grenades, 'cause explosions make everything more awsum.
 
I can say only one thing. After playing Vegas for quit some time switching to Mass Effect 2 ... good animations make a game a few thousand times more awesome. Of course Mass Effect 2 is a tad more modern then Vegas. So no surprise. But still. Bethesda should really try to improve in that field what ever new projects or engines they will use in the future. I cant believe that they still got away with it in Fallout 3 which basicaly had almost the same animations like Oblivion ...
 
i keep hearing about limitations of the engine and yet modders do not seem to be limited by those same engine limits.

if someone without source access can make animations that look as smooth as that dance club whereas beth cannot make animations that dont shatter suspension of disbelief...

they are a fucking hack outfit. i dont care what excuses or other bullshit people can come up with to try to make it acceptable.

it is not acceptable at all. there is no excuse.
 
of course no engine is really limited. But often enough developers either intentionaly or unintentionaly set in "limits" which makes it more difficiult to work with.

For example, you could theoreticaly mod the engine of UT99 or Ut2k3 to use quad core technology BUT you would need quite deep access to the code which is often enough difficuilt because you might end up in problems if you dont own a licence for the engine and you need a lot of skill obviously. It is as well not rare that some engines are better in some areas then others. For example Arma2 has a different focus then the Cryengine or some games are looking rather for a multiplayer experience then singleplayer. Some engines are thus better for moding then others. I am not a professional but I think developers for example can even devlop their engine in a way that it doesnt allow the use of mods. Think about it like tweaking either Windows or a Unix based system like Linux. You will have a hard time tweaking the kernel or critical systems for windows then with linux simply because windows is done in a different way so even smaller changes will cause Windows to not operate anymore while Linux allows the user to change a lot of things without much issues (well if you know what you are doing of course !).
 
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