The Guns and Ammo Thread

You know, another weapon that I really would not mind to shoot is the Galil
Not only does it look interesting, but it is also pretty durable, from what they say which should not come as a surprise since the AK family of rifles was a large inspiration for it.

Galil feature prominently in the animated film Waltz with Bashir, which I can only recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it, if not only for the level of detail, in what would not seem very detailed at first glance.
 
I really have some fetish for Soviet small arms, up to the DSHK and Kord heavy machine gun.
You can't hipfire 12,7 mm? Everything is possible with the help of Stalin.

I like Soviet weapons too. Ppsh-41 one of my favourite weapons, partially due to the cool sound. Btw, I've read stories of some super strong US soldiers firing the 50 cal machine gun from the hip. Can't find images of it being done on the net, only dudes shooting the Barrett sniper rifle from the hip, so I presume it's pretty hardcore and heavy to do.

You know, another weapon that I really would not mind to shoot is the Galil
Not only does it look interesting, but it is also pretty durable, from what they say which should not come as a surprise since the AK family of rifles was a large inspiration for it.
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Well ...

Faulty Rifles puts minister into the crosshair
https://www.thelocal.de/20150508/von-der-leyen-tries-to-hold-onto-reputation

The Galil was modeled after the Finnish RK-62 by the company Valmet that was made with licence from Soviet Union based on the AK-47. Some early Galil's used the frame of RK-62. I used the RK when I was in the military, there were older and newer versions of it around. Then came the version used now, RK-95.

You see the barrel is 'shrouded' at the tip? It's that way so you can use it to cut barb wire. Just put the wire in between there and twist it around, eventually the wire will be cut. Also the one in this image has the old style metal magazine, we had polymer plastic ones. The metal ones got bent and wouldn't fit into the gun, with plastic ones no problem.

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In broad sweeping strokes, my opinion of battle rifles is this:
FAL is great for general issue.
G3 is good to dress up (more modular), and makes a decent DMR.
M14 is a range queen which can be accurized but any heavy use will be bad for it.

Of course, nowadays they are all horrendously outdated compared to the SCAR and various AR15/AR10 offshoots.

Been some time but I remember hearing about how in Afghanistan that plastic housing in the gun sits in couldn't really handle the wear and tear. Cold weather would really mess them up. don't know if they got better or not.
Supposedly the plastic around the trunion melts and reseats itself, causing zero shift during heavy fire.

Norwegian military adopted them, then soon after un-adopted. To me, that speaks of first - advertisement, buying a weapon at face value - for then to actually field test it, and sourly regret the decision. I don't think they are even in use, while still transitioning to HK416, prefering the G3 instead, which is solid as a locomotive.
Euhm, no. The Norwegians had requested a bunch of changes (including on the gas block) to the HK416 design and this caused all types of issues with the rifle at first. They required several iterations to unfuck it. So not really "solid".

Just for the sake of variation, I always find other designs to be fascinating. I like the "matter-of-fact"-ness of the SA-80, it has a really charming uglyness about it, like pure business no play, compared to the much more "energetic" and toy-like XM8.
Why do you hate people that shoot off the left shoulder? Pfffft.
Designing a gun that forces you to fire it from the right shoulder is just lazy & bad design.

The only bullpup that is still going "strong" is the AUG (steyr & austreyr variants). F2000, VHS-2, etc are all becoming less & less popular.

I like doing things like this because they are educational. This is a 12.5" barrel open choke gun. It is going to give you far more spread then the 18" barrels sold on most domestic shotguns. Even so, at 7 yards, there was almost no difference between slug and buckshot. The shot had not even fully detatched from the wad. My father managed to miss a man-sized target three times at 7 yards, and he is a reasonably skilled shooter. When I did this stuff for a living, I used to cringe when someone would come in and buy a 12 gauge shotgun for their wife for home defense. Not that shotguns aren't great for that purpose, but you do have to aim, and perform complex mechanical actions under high stress conditions to have a follow-up shot. They are truly not a magic wand of death, and anyone who tells you otherwise is profoundly lacking in real world experience.
One word: duckbill.
When you absolutely positively need to spray the entire tree line with pellets, Vietnam style. ;)
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Obviously joking, would never advocate that for self-defense usage.
 
Supposedly the plastic around the trunion melts and reseats itself, causing zero shift during heavy fire.
That is worse than I remember. I couldn't recall if the melting was the G36 or the XM8 which really had horrible habit of doing that. I just heard that in cold weather the plastic would crack.
 
Euhm, no. The Norwegians had requested a bunch of changes (including on the gas block) to the HK416 design and this caused all types of issues with the rifle at first. They required several iterations to unfuck it. So not really "solid".

The "solid" was the G3
 
The first world war trench shotgun also had a kind of a Fallout-y look.Came with a bayonet for extra up close combat.

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Speaking of guns (lel) always found the Finnish Yati Matik to look absolutely... special :V
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I really admire the pragmatism behind this design though, I can imagine the exchange of "This looks... special" "Yeah, but it totally works!" "Okay... but nobody else in the world makes guns looking this... special... " "But it totally works!"
 
Sly Stallone protagonist in the movie Cobra had the Yati Matik. For some reason, I guess they liked it or something. Some guy designed it, was designing a pistol but noticed that when shot a burst there wasn't much recoil so made a SMG out of it.

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Picked up a 13.5x1 lefty metric piston for my Osprey 45 the other day. To my untrained aesthetic eye, the lines compliment the X5 nicely. I am not sure that I'll use it that often, as I already have two other 9mm pistol cans in the same thread pitch, but it is certainly nice to have options.

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Picked up a 13.5x1 lefty metric piston for my Osprey 45 the other day. To my untrained aesthetic eye, the lines compliment the X5 nicely. I am not sure that I'll use it that often, as I already have two other 9mm pistol cans in the same thread pitch, but it is certainly nice to have options.

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Very nice, I wish we could have suppressors in Canada, but somebody got it in their head many years ago that they actually silence the gun (damn you Hollywood) and they won't let us. We keep fighting to have them as it would keep complaints about ranges and there sound down (hopefully) but so far no go.
 
Any chance you guys heard about those silly bullets that splinter when they hit? I think they called them RIP rounds or something.

Either way they are hot garbage, a trusted friend of mine got a box of them and said they are hell to fire accurately due to all the air drag. He also said they have the nasty tendency to ricochet when they hit harder objects.

To be honest, is a round like this doesn't really seem to have a point other than that of being malicious.
 
Very nice, I wish we could have suppressors in Canada, but somebody got it in their head many years ago that they actually silence the gun (damn you Hollywood) and they won't let us. We keep fighting to have them as it would keep complaints about ranges and there sound down (hopefully) but so far no go.

They are heavily regulated in our country, although there is legislation to take them out of our NFA Registry currently pending. They certainly don't make things silent. The quietest suppressed gun I own is a 77/44, and it is very, very quiet, but it comes with a host of issues of it's own.
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Any chance you guys heard about those silly bullets that splinter when they hit? I think they called them RIP rounds or something.

Either way they are hot garbage, a trusted friend of mine got a box of them and said they are hell to fire accurately due to all the air drag. He also said they have the nasty tendency to ricochet when they hit harder objects.

To be honest, is a round like this doesn't really seem to have a point other than that of being malicious.

There have been a lot of gimmick rounds over the years, Black Talons being the 'cop killer bullets' of the 1990s, and the G2 RIP being the internet sensation of 2014. None of them offer anything better then a well designed hollow point bullet from Hornaday, Winchester, etc...

Frangible ammo is a different entity, and not necessarily a gimmick. It's designed to shatter when it hits something harder then flesh. The idea is that it will go through people, but not through walls. This allows law enforcement to use larger rifle rounds and higher-powered ammunition in places where they would have to be really conscious of over-penetration, like apartment buildings. Some ranges also require it because it is kinder on their backstops. It is definitely a niche product, but it has it's uses.
 
@JohnnyEgo

Hey Johnny, where can I start by replacing the magazine release button on the MP-15 (parts-wise)?

My rifle has the bullet-button gimmick (California), but seeing as that's considered an assault weapon now and I'll have to register it at the end of the year, I might as well go ahead and swap it out for a traditional release.

Thanks.
 
Speaking of guns (lel) always found the Finnish Yati Matik to look absolutely... special :V
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Wait, is the barrel pointing a bit upwards? :confused:
I really admire the pragmatism behind this design though, I can imagine the exchange of "This looks... special" "Yeah, but it totally works!" "Okay... but nobody else in the world makes guns looking this... special... " "But it totally works!"
Todd Howard, are you showcasing weapons now? :lmao:
 
@JohnnyEgo

Hey Johnny, where can I start by replacing the magazine release button on the MP-15 (parts-wise)?

My rifle has the bullet-button gimmick (California), but seeing as that's considered an assault weapon now and I'll have to register it at the end of the year, I might as well go ahead and swap it out for a traditional release.

Thanks.

It's fairly easy to swap out a mag catch. Most of my pictures relate to installing them, but I'll post them in reverse.
1. Push in on the mag release.
2. Grab the mag catch on the opposite side and pull it further out against the spring.
3. Rotate the mag catch until it unscrews from the button.
4. Installation is the reverse.

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Wait, is the barrel pointing a bit upwards? :confused:

Todd Howard, are you showcasing weapons now? :lmao:

Yes, but also notice that the iron sights line up with it.

And I reckon Todd and cohorts over there are downright gun-hating fascists, no person who admires firearms as general tools would fuck them up as badly as they did in FO4.
 
It doesn't. The sights & barrel are perfectly aligned. It's the gun's frame which makes it look weird.
It's designed to minimize recoil in full auto. Was never much of a success though.

No it wasn't very popular. It's always like that with Finnish products, Finns innovate and come up with a new product and try to make it big with it in the global markets and fail. Then Swedes notice it, tweak the product a little and call it their own and then successfully market it globally and make a bundle.

They didn't do it with Jatimatik though cause it's POS I guess but they often do it. Bastards.

Edit. Wait, does the selector switch in those pics say "Zombies" and "Safe"? That's funny.
 
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Wait, does the selector switch in those pics say "Zombies" and "Safe"? That's funny.

Yep. Got built into this:
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Zombies aren't really a thing for me. In my youth, it was Vampires, but not the angsty pre-teen kind that shimmer. No, we had angsty Tom Cruise type vampires courtesy of Anne Rice. Which really isn't much of an improvement actually, but I digress. The point is I'm mostly 'meh' on the whole Zombie thing.

I ended up with this one through a common innovation cycle in my country's firearms industry. It's a DDLES lower, and it represented a real improvement over existing 9mm lowers a couple years back. A lot of demand, a limited supply. The manufacturer attempted to expand to meet demand, meanwhile making wild promises that the market simply could not support. Suddenly, tens of thousands of people were screaming to give DDLES their money. So DDLES took it. Soon they were using new order money to subsidize their attempt to fulfill their older promises, all while getting deeper and deeper in a production hole. Then came the angry letters, scores of complaints, state Attorneys General, civil and criminal actions, and bankruptcy. I was one of a very lucky few to get even half of what I had ordered after the creditors lined up, so even though I wasn't wild about the Zombie lower, I took it and tried to be grateful.
 
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