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Squadcar said:
I'm GLAD it will take under 40 hours.
I'd rather have a 20-40 hour game that encourages replays rather than 100+ hours where the game has like 2 endings and/or the completion time is so long I'd rather just play it once every so many years at most.

After I hit hour 50 in a game now, I start feeling drag. I adore Planescape so far but I am around 40 hours and it happened. The Witcher 3 took me 70 hours and around 50-55 hours I felt a lot of drag about it. By the time I got to the last area/fight of Wasteland 2 (took me about 66 hours I think?) I was just ready to see the credits roll and play something else.

It doesn't matter how good the game is, eventually I'd rather the story had been summed up and I could just optionally replay the game. I played New Vegas for probably 700-1000 or so hours. I played it on consoles and PC. I played through it SO many times doing the same things just slightly different or even revisiting my old builds. That was fine because each run I could finish the main quest in like 15 hours and one run I kinda did speed run the game on hardcore to see how fast I could get the achievement on the 360 after doing it on PC.
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Jesus, I don't think I could play the same game that many times. I did one full run of New Vegas at around 250 hours, and that was all I could manage. But yeah, 30-40 hours is plenty for me. I can't afford to piss away that much time anymore. At this point, I probably have a backlog of like 20 RPGs to finish. I'll likely die before that happens.
 
Jabberwok said:
I can't afford to piss away that much time anymore...
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That's how I feel. I'll never play a game as much as that anymore. That was high school and mind you a lot of my senior year. My senior year I had one class each semester at 800 and then on two days of the week I had college classes. So that's three days that I had most of the day off and no work til later and then two days where I got home two hours early still (sometimes no class at all even on those days). I had a LOT of free time. All my older friends were working, similar aged friends in school. I just sat at home and played games.

Between a full-time job, a house, a girlfriend (who plays multiplayer games with me), etc. I can't sink hundreds into a game anymore.
 
Millim said:
I'm cool with 40 hours.
It usually takes me about 30 to do everything in New Vegas (first time around it took me 17 hours) so I'm happy with 40.
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How the fuck did it take 17 hours to do everything in NV?
Unless you were skipping all dialogue and using guides, I have a hard time believing you could cover all of vanilla, in detail, in that time.
 
Atomkilla said:
How the fuck did it take 17 hours to do everything in NV?
Unless you were skipping all dialogue and using guides, I have a hard time believing you could cover all of vanilla, in detail, in that time.
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Pulled a Game Grumps.
*skips all dialogue*
“Ugh I hate this game it never tells me what I’m doing”
 
Atomkilla said:
How the fuck did it take 17 hours to do everything in NV?
Unless you were skipping all dialogue and using guides, I have a hard time believing you could cover all of vanilla, in detail, in that time.
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Nah, first time I didn't do everything.
I did a number of things, but not everything.

I skipped over a huge chunk of the game by going with Yes Man and just saying "Yeah, these People were cool" to everyone.

Since then, I tend to more with each play-through.
Also bare in mind, there's some side quests I don't do on another Play-Through. The one where you just get eggs for that Woman in the underground Arena place for example is one I did once, I find that quest kinda boring and not worth the reward. It's not as interesting as say... the one with the Ghouls (I can't remember the names of these things... I'm way too fucking tired). A quest I do find tedious but feel rewarded every time I do it.

And nah, I don't skip over dialogue in these games.
 
https://www.pcgamer.com/obsidian-wi...p-using-the-outer-worlds-to-knock-fallout-76/

I know there are people doing this, but I personally never thought that Obsidian was trying to bash on Bethesda or 76 (although the game does suck), and that the "original creators of Fallout" was just simply telling the truth. Maybe also some nostalgia and hope for fans of the originals.

There will also be a V.A.T.S. type combat system. I think this could be a good thing, as long as you don't need to constantly use it.

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-outer-worlds-will-feature-vats-like-slo-mo-combat-and-unique-companions/
 
Black Rose said:
https://www.pcgamer.com/obsidian-wi...p-using-the-outer-worlds-to-knock-fallout-76/

I know there are people doing this, but I personally never thought that Obsidian was trying to bash on Bethesda or 76 (although the game does suck), and that the "original creators of Fallout" was just simply telling the truth. Maybe also some nostalgia and hope for fans of the originals.

There will also be a V.A.T.S. type combat system. I think this could be a good thing, as long as you don't need to constantly use it.

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-outer-worlds-will-feature-vats-like-slo-mo-combat-and-unique-companions/
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From what I saw in the demo, I thought it was a little unfair for the press to write the combat off as a VATS clone. Everything I've seen is just slow motion. New Fallout is hardly the only shooter to include a slow mo mechanic and VATS was complete auto-targeting, not just time dilation. I have to wonder if the only reason they're making that comparison so often is because of who the developers are.

I haven't seen Obsidian themselves call it that, but maybe they did and I just missed it. Either way, they only look similar to me if you're someone who's only played a handful of games, and one of them happens to be Fallout 4...
 
Bullet time (player being able to slow down the time in action/shooting parts) has been a thing for 20 years now, and hundreds of games have it and had it before Fallout 3 V.A.T.S. (which as Jabberwok says, it's also an auto aim system)...
PC Gamer doesn't know about Bullet Time? They have been in the "gaming" business since the early 90's and they don't know about Bullet Time? This is ridiculous. :facepalm:
 
I think @Jabberwok is right about only comparing the system to V.A.T.S. because of Obsidian's connection to FO. Either that, or the writers at the site have only played FO.

Max Payne, RDR and F.E.A.R. have it too. But I'll admit I have never heard it called "Bullet time". LOL.
 
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Jabberwok said:
Heck, even Mass Effect 2 and 3 had it, if you played as the soldier. That should still be new enough for a games journalist to remember.



Bullet time is what it was actually called in Max Payne.
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I wanted to make a list and actually went searching, but I'm lazy. Never played Max Payne. Any good? I have it on my shelf, I think. Along with about 20 other games. I have played RDR (finally) though.

And as a huge Mass Effect fan, I have just learned this. I never took the soldier option. I mostly took the engineer option. Will be sure to try it out!
 
Black Rose said:
Max Payne, RDR and F.E.A.R. have it too. But I'll admit I have never heard it called "Bullet time". LOL.
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Black Rose said:
I wanted to make a list and actually went searching, but I'm lazy. Never played Max Payne. Any good? I have it on my shelf, I think. Along with about 20 other games. I have played RDR (finally) though.

And as a huge Mass Effect fan, I have just learned this. I never took the soldier option. I mostly took the engineer option. Will be sure to try it out!
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The first two Max Payne games are great, especially if you like cheesy noir, detective stories, or old John Woo action movies.
 
Black Rose said:
I wanted to make a list and actually went searching, but I'm lazy. Never played Max Payne. Any good? I have it on my shelf, I think. Along with about 20 other games. I have played RDR (finally) though.

And as a huge Mass Effect fan, I have just learned this. I never took the soldier option. I mostly took the engineer option. Will be sure to try it out!
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It took you this long to play RDR?! Shame, my dear. Shame.

Better late than never tho
 
I only played like 10 hours of Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare because someone let me borrow just that disc instead of the full game. Never played RDR or RDR2 or Red dead revolver. I'm sure they're solid but eh.

I really hate that people kept saying TOW had something like VATS. It's not at all.
 
I played Red Dead Redeption 1, I got bored of it like 3 hours in, specially when I realized the "Activities" loop it had. Don't know why I didn't realize it was a Rockstar game or I wouldn't have bothered.
 
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