The Ultimate Movie Thread of Ultimate Destiny

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It's beyond dumb. I just saw the trailer and almost every fucking scene in it was somehow dumb. Even the first scene where some startrooper just pops out from nowhere for no apparent reason and with no connection to anything...
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It's called a teaser for a reason.

Also what exactly is "a new level of dumb" about it? You seem to be whining, if you'll excuse the term, for no reason. Haven't seen anything even close to prequel trilogy levels of retardation yet.
 
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oxidize said:
It's beyond dumb. I just saw the trailer and almost every fucking scene in it was somehow dumb. Even the first scene where some startrooper just pops out from nowhere for no apparent reason and with no connection to anything...
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It's called a teaser for a reason.

Also what exactly is "a new level of dumb" about it? You seem to be whining, if you'll excuse the term, for no reason. Haven't seen anything even close to prequel trilogy levels of retardation yet.
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When that black dude popped up, I just laughed out loud. Pop! Politically correct family movie.
Second shot: a football robot making chipmunk noises. Boom! Child friendly Disney movie.
Third shot: menacingly looking stormtroopers with menacingly looking red leds. Bam! Catering to the nerds.
Fourth shot: heroine chick on a hovering Harley. Booyah! Disney isn't sexist.
Fifth shot: action! It's an action movie! It's got action! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Sixth shot: it's Lord of the Rings! O, wait... no, it's not, it's a fucking Star Wars movie...
Seventh shot: it's the Millennium Falcon! Nostalgia rush! Disney will take me back to my childhood! And ain't that exactly what we all want?

Not.

This movie will be a contraption. Why? Because the Star Wars franchise appeals to such a heterogenous group of people, male, female, young, old, smart, dumb, cool, nerd, ... Disney can only do one thing: try to make all of them content. All of them. The teaser already reflects that. And you know what? You can't please everyone. You just can't. If you do, it's like opening all the doors and windows in your house to let everyone in, and you know what you get from that? Pneumonia.

This movie will suck even more than the last three that Lucas made.
 
oxidize said:
Yeah, but this is whole new level of dumb. The prime reason for that being the Disney.
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What about Avengers and Avengers 2? "The Disney" didn't seem to render those significantly more dumb that pre-Disney-acquisition Marvel Studios, did it?

I'd say it's "the Abrams" more than anything else.
 
Akratus said:
oxidize said:
It's beyond dumb. I just saw the trailer and almost every fucking scene in it was somehow dumb. Even the first scene where some startrooper just pops out from nowhere for no apparent reason and with no connection to anything...
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It's called a teaser for a reason.

Also what exactly is "a new level of dumb" about it? You seem to be whining, if you'll excuse the term, for no reason. Haven't seen anything even close to prequel trilogy levels of retardation yet.
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I think its not even a teaser really, but more a teaser for a teaser ... or some crap like that ... no clue. The quality seems to be pretty strange sometimes.

Anyway, I dont like it really, cant even say why really ... it just ... feels ... strange. But I will probably still go and watch it.
 
Yeah Star Wars has always been dumb, but this also looks pretentious dumb, down to having a raspy voice narrating the trailer. And why does that Light saber has two small light sabers on the side of the hilt? What purpose either functional or cool do they serve? It just looks like he is about to fix his space car.
 
Your recent discussion about time travel paradox in Terminator reminded me of Los Cronocrímenes/Timecrimes, guys. It's very solid Spanish movie from 2008, without any shitty CGI, aiming at psychology and personalities instead of mindless action. Just sayin'

UniversalWolf said:
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However The Shawshank Redemption is one of the (if not the) top 3 films of all time on my list, and ANYTIME I catch it on TV I'll stop to watch it.
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That's a truly great movie. You can see it many times over and find something new with each viewing.
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Yup, it's pretty good one, perhaps a little overrated IMO. I think that older prison movies as Caged (USA, 1950) or Le Trou (France, 1960) are much better!
 
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Wonder if the Light side "Force lightning" equivalent is gonna be revealed to be a huge Lensflare in this movie.
 
Los Cronocrimenes is a classic. Another foreign film I can recommend is Intouchablés, which is one long acting powerhouse.
 
alec said:
When that black dude popped up, I just laughed out loud. Pop! Politically correct family movie...
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Now this is... something. Having a black guy in your movie is now politically correct? And having a female character doing something somehow makes them sjws?

The reason we won't enjoy this more than the starwars of our childhood is not because of Disney, or JJ abrams, or cultural magnanimity or whatever, it's because we're not the same starry eyed kids we once were. Time has made us old and bitter and incapable of feeling that same level of love and excitement.

It's not due to a decrease in objective quality.
 
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Chris Nolan is the most overrated director in Hollywood.

Inception is his best movie, and it's merely okay. Memento is number two on my "Most Overrated Movies of All Time" list (after Argo and along with, for example's sake, Saving Private Ryan). It's gimmickry in it's pure, unadulterated form.

I wouldn't say Whedon's least work (I'm not even sure what that would be) is better than Nolan's best, but I would say The Cabin in the Woods is better than anything Nolan has done. At least Whedon has the balls to put a twist and a critique on one of the industry's major cash-cows: slasher films. Whedon has the intelligence to ask and the wit to answer a question like, "why are all these kids being attacked by homicidal maniacs all the time?" Nolan just churns out the exact kind of unchallenging, slightly-above-average stuff Hollywood loves to market.
 
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UniversalWolf said:
Chris Nolan is the most overrated director in Hollywood.

Inception is his best movie, and it's merely okay. Memento is number two on my "Most Overrated Movies of All Time" list (after Argo and along with, for example's sake, Saving Private Ryan). It's gimmickry in it's pure, unadulterated form.

I wouldn't say Whedon's least work (I'm not even sure what that would be) is better than Nolan's best, but I would say The Cabin in the Woods is better than anything Nolan has done. At least Whedon has the balls to put a twist and a critique on one of the industry's major cash-cows: slasher films. Whedon has the intelligence to ask and the wit to answer a question like, "why are all these kids being attacked by homicidal maniacs all the time?" Nolan just churns out the exact kind of unchallenging, slightly-above-average stuff Hollywood loves to market.
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Why is Momento overrated? How?
 
Alright... a little disappointed because I'd expected an actual full trailer. I'd been hearing all damn week that a SW "trailer" was coming on Friday.

As far as teasers go, I don't mind it at all. Disjointed, some pointless scenes, but it IS a teaser. I'll say that I've grown to really appreciate that MF sequence. The way it's shot makes you feel the damn gravity at play. I realize that it's not a video game but damn it was effectively "shot" (what's the term in this instance? "CGI-ed"?)

Two things bothered me a little from the start: the girl's one second of acting looked about as awful as a one second of acting can look, and yeah, the sword is quite ridiculous. They really wanted to shove some symbolism into its' design I guess.
 
Hassknecht said:
Sending morse code from the inside of an event horizon (dunno how it happens exactly, haven't seen it) is... Dubious from a scientific point of view. Handwaving, but it's not Hard Scifi we're talking about here.
Having incredibly large time dilation on a planet orbiting a black hole is not all that feasible either; if the planet is so close to the event horizon the tidal forces (coming from the massive spacetime curvature) would be brutal, I guess.
Well, from what I read the movie really tries hard to scientifically sound. It probably contains some handwaving, but that's to be expected. Mind you that my colleagues and I are not astrophysicists, we're usually dealing with the opposite end of the scale length in physics.
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the morse code part is science fantasy, but it's also supposed to be science from several thousand or tens of thousands or millions of years in the future when we've completely transcended space and time as a species, and being as someone pointed out earlier that our current understanding of black holes is constantly shifting, so who's to say?

I would contend that there is nothing "wrong" with the science in interstellar. Did they take some liberties on not perfectly understood topics (like what happens inside of a black hole) in order to make a vehicle for an engaging plot? Absolutely.

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I'm not a big SW extended universe guy, but had a nerd point out to me that this is eu cannon, and that lightsabers are supposed to reflect the individual as much as they are supposed to be practical weapons. While the hilt doesn't make much sense from a defense point of view, i think it looks neat. Although it's kind of a shame because they could have designed it in a more practical way.
 
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Not much sense in having a hilt that can burn your fingers off. I don't know, I am tolerant to the weird lightsabers of the recent star wars thing, the double saber, the anti Jedi Katana like one was cool, the spinny saber thing they used in a scene of the new cartoon (that I have yet to watch fully), those were cool. This thing on the other hand looks like that tool you use to loosen up the bolts to change a wheel, and someone attacking another person with one of those is like the most parodied and stereotypical crass weapon of choice of a thug here in colombia, so that makes me laugh at the "super cool light sword".
 
to be fair though, it was used in various Star Wars comics, so it's probably not some kind of "movie-invention" here. But you never know, I can't say that I really like J. J. Abrams as director that much anyway and just because something is in comics doesn't mean it works on the screen in the same way. And I agree with you guys, it makes not much sense on a lightsaber. Maybe if it worked more like a "traditional" hilt, with a protection for your hand somehow.

But it is kinda funny how the Star Wars crowd already makes the joke, that if Abrams fucks it all up, he will be called Jar Jar Abrams. I mean his Star Trek movie was "ok", not outstanding, but good entertainment, a solid flick in my opinion. But Into Darkness, the last ST movie? Garbage, if you ask me. The only movie I really like? Super 8. Well, so with saying this I don't have really very high hopes for the SW flick to begin with, it simply reeks too much of cash grab and "hey! Lets buy this strong and well known name and throw unlimited funds at it and see what happens!", but mountains of money, don't buy mountains of quality. Well, not always at least. Kinda feels like what Bethesda did with Fallout.

Now all we need are exploding heads, Jedi drinking from toilets - to survive in the desert of course. And nuclear catapults. For the fun.

Also: LOL

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I swear, the internet is awesome.
 
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