Things we learned from Fallout 4
- Thread starter Brahmin Noodles
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You're joking, right?
AlbertCole
First time out of the vault
Dude.... just... why? Leave the west coast alone, damn it.
So... invasion of the underground aliens in Fallout 5?
Ediros
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
179.Not liking the Farcryout 4 gives you a ton of hate and a ban on other sides. It doesn't matter if it is a constructive critique or not.
180. Somehow nobody in commonwealth thought about creating any sort of transportation method. It doesn't matter if it was a brahmin caravan or a pre-war vehicle.
181. Level Scaling is one of the worst things to ever appear in gaming, next to horse armour dlc.
180. Somehow nobody in commonwealth thought about creating any sort of transportation method. It doesn't matter if it was a brahmin caravan or a pre-war vehicle.
181. Level Scaling is one of the worst things to ever appear in gaming, next to horse armour dlc.
MercenarySnake
Kept you waiting huh?
181. The radiant quests that need to disappear, they add nothing to the game unless you enjoy repetitiveness.
Brahmin Noodles
Still Mildly Glowing
182: Father enjoys making Super Mutants for no apparent reason.
183: Supermutants enjoy suicide for no apparent reason.
Brahmin Noodles
Still Mildly Glowing
Let's chamber a bolt-action rifle with a .32 pistol round!If Bethesda already showed over and over through the times is that they have no idea how weapons or ammo/calibres work.
184. Bethesda still doesn't know what genre their games are:
Fallout 3 - Genre: RPG
Fallout 4 - Genre: RPG
Obsidian on the other hand:
Fallout New Vegas - Genre: Action, RPG
Fallout 3 - Genre: RPG
Fallout 4 - Genre: RPG
Obsidian on the other hand:
Fallout New Vegas - Genre: Action, RPG
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Ragemage
Wept for Zion
185. Apparently Mr. House must've been really clutzy with his COMMAND OVERRIDE CODES because Deacon somehow has the one for Mr. Handies and it actually briefly works on a Mr. Handy called Deezer. He claims he won it in a poker game.
186. Yao Guai aren't radioactive enough it seems, so in Fart Harbor there are going to be ghoulfied yao guais.
187. Apparently the octopus population survived the nukes because there are going to be mutated octopi in Fart Harbor as well.
188. Apparently a blue ghoul whale exists somewhere in the ocean near Boston. Given the harpoon gun Fart Harbor's going to give us, it's only natural to assume we're going to hunt this thing Black Flag style.
Oh yes. Far Harbor is going to give us so many more "what I learned from fallout 4" numbers. Isn't it wonderful? Shoot me.
186. Yao Guai aren't radioactive enough it seems, so in Fart Harbor there are going to be ghoulfied yao guais.
187. Apparently the octopus population survived the nukes because there are going to be mutated octopi in Fart Harbor as well.
188. Apparently a blue ghoul whale exists somewhere in the ocean near Boston. Given the harpoon gun Fart Harbor's going to give us, it's only natural to assume we're going to hunt this thing Black Flag style.
Oh yes. Far Harbor is going to give us so many more "what I learned from fallout 4" numbers. Isn't it wonderful? Shoot me.
Brahmin Noodles
Still Mildly Glowing
Still waiting for Mothership Zeta 2: Return of the Lore Rape DLC.
Willy Rogers
Nothing better to do.
Hilariously enough, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_Winchester_Special . Doesn't mean Bethesda knew that though.
Jogre
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I'm going to be a spoil sport here, and point out that some of these comments are a little invalidated by the fact that they were either already present in the originals and beyond, or make perfect sense. It's a shit game nontheless, but some of these comments are a bit over-dramatic.
Well that's my work done.
While the Kid in the Fridge quest is an abomination, that comment on its own is a bit nitpicky. Can you expect them to?, When most of them were born, there species didn't even exist yet.
Don't quite get what this is supposed to mean.
To be fair, it is home to C.I.T, you'd expect it to be somewhat more technologically advanced than the rest of the world.
Emil and Todd specifically said that they played the originals. I think it's far more likely that Emil is a sellout, and Todd is too passive.
To be fair, there was a Ghost in Fallout 2. Magic was always established, just not as extremely
Power Armor Training was introduced by Bethesda to begin with. In Fallout 1 you can basically just repair and get in a suit of PA just like that, In Fallout 2 you can basically just steal some from the Enclave and get in to it despite being a tribal with no knowledge of the world. I also don't see why people complain about this, as far as I'm aware Power Armor is just a fancy suit with Servos and Air Filters, apart from all the funny dials, why would it take too long to get used to that?
To be fair "Such and Such has Mutated" is just a line for legendary enemies when they get more powerful. I reckon that's just Beth being lazy, rather than them actually mutating, and really there just slightly more powerful than usual.
It doesn't specify every raider can do that. Perhaps there is one craftsman per gang whose making a whole bunch of them. And besides, Fallout 1 raiders of all kinds could forge spears.
Pretty much every Fallout game has similar logic. EG. "I just killed a bunch of Deathclaws, now I suddenly know how to use a computer, and have a PHD in Chemistry" whenever you upgraded the Science skill.
Not like any other Fallout game has had a small group of scientists holed up together for 200 years. *Cough Fallout 2* *Cough Enclave*
Theres a Fallout 2 Character who was kicked out of Vault City because he was immune to Radiation. Rad Immunities were cannon before FO4.
To be fair, we've only seen 3 sources so far: Mariposa which makes sense because it's where it was first developed, Vault 87 which makes sense cause Vault-Tec were powerful, and The Institute which makes sense because of course a group of expert scientists would have access to all the cool toys.
Yeah, it's totally not like the originals followed the same logic.
And Black Isle Studios never did that?, *Cough Sulik *Cough. If anything, Sulik is even less deep.
Like in every other Fallout game ever made.
Even the originals had old cardboard boxes and pieces of plastic lying around.
What does this mean?
I don't think using easy programming tricks is the same thing as degrading a series.
There was a Husky in Fallout 1, and an Australian Shepherd in 1, 2 and 3. Purebred dogs are nothing new
Chris Avellone was presented as a badass bounty hunter in 1, and a mayor of a town in 2.
Mr Handies are General Atomics International not RobCo, and the code doesn't even work.
And these things are bad because .....?
Well that's my work done.
mrchaos
Super Orc
The comment is based on a tweet by peter hines ´´the spoke person`` of the company, that failed to explain the absurdity of the quest.
MercenarySnake
Kept you waiting huh?
They use Skyrim dragon AI but for some reason even dumber than the dragons.
But it wasn't Halloween decorations and they were still rebuilding unlike Fallout 3 and 4.
I don't remember that but if it was in the game then it probably had a better explanation than "Look we can live in the rads filled hole without turning into ghouls or dying since we worship a bomb". Even if there was no explanation Fallout 2 already had plenty of problems.
It was nowhere near as bad considering I could play on the highest difficulty in Fallout 1 and 2 without much issues, while in Fallout 4 you have to empty a few clips just to kill someone. It's like Oblivion and Skyrim with their absurd difficulties that think raising the difficulty means bloated health sponges.
Because not everything has to be a fucking ghoul, the humanoid ghouls are fine but how the hell does that work for octopus' and whales? It sounds silly as hell and something I can't take seriously.
If all you can say for explaining why the FEV was in vault 87 is "cause Vault-Tek were powerful" then obviously there's no good explanation for it being there, I mean how would it get from California to DC. The explanation you gave is what a writer would give if they were to lazy to explain or couldn't explain why something like that could end up being logical.
I also find it hard to believe that The Institute had the materials to do the EXACT same thing a third time in a row. Where do they get their materials when none of them travel outside of The Institute besides synths and I won't buy "well the synths did it" considering that Boston is a barren wasteland with no progress and nobody giving a shit to rebuild and gather resources. Not mad at you or anything just giving my reasons.
Jogre
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
It was mutated Octopus, not Ghoul Octopus. I think it would actually be ok to have some aquatic wildlife.
It was pretty much among the lines of "A rare genetic mutation", what's saying the Children of the Atom in the crater don't have that.
Don't see the problem with reusing AI.
I'm not defending Bethesda's lazy writing, I'm just saying that 3 powerful organisations having access to it, doesn't mean it's everywhere.
Brahmin Noodles
Still Mildly Glowing
Yeah, but the hunting rifle in FO3 uses the same ammo as the .32 pistol. Unless that ammo you linked to can be used in a pistol as well? It doesn't look like it, but then again, I'm no expert with guns.
MercenarySnake
Kept you waiting huh?
Rare being a select few people, on the other hand all the children of the atom must have this if the ones in the crater do so what if there are say 20 or 30 if not more of their members in the Far Harbor DLC? Doesn't sound like "a rare genetic mutation" to me.
It's called laziness, failing to advance your AI to be smarter than being a dumb sack of bricks. When you put dragon AI on a flying vehicle doesn't that sound silly? It does to me, it's even funnier when the same AI is even dumber in a NEWER game. Well they have to save all the money they can to maximize profits especially reusing that aging piece of shit engine gamebyro with a new name slapped on to try to fool the masses.
Right there sounds like you are defending it. What are the chances that three different places around the world mind you end up receiving
or developing the exact same virus in a post apocalyptic world? Not to mention only one half of the world has seemed to get their shit together while the other half still builds buildings out of junk. The Master already had a foundation for the FEV that he found if I remember correctly and kept experimenting it to what he thought was "perfection" until he got the results he wanted. How did Vault 87 make the exact same thing or get a hold of it for that matter? How did The Institute create it the exact same way as well without any resources?
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
It's gonna really bother me until someone identifies the rad immune guy in Fallout 2.
Jogre
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
Cool thanks.
I'm confused, why would Vault City kick him out for being resistant to radiation? Aren't they super-against irradiated people?
Could be a mutation I guess. Might explain the name Lumpy if we think of him as looking like some of the characters in Mad Max:Fury Road.
I'm confused, why would Vault City kick him out for being resistant to radiation? Aren't they super-against irradiated people?
Could be a mutation I guess. Might explain the name Lumpy if we think of him as looking like some of the characters in Mad Max:Fury Road.