Today in Romania

Sander said:
Also, for the record, Summa Cum Laude is largely useless. In fact, good grades are useless. No-one looks at them anyway, they'll all look at the paper saying your title, and then look at extracirricular activities. And possibly at the time it took you to complete your study.
Suckers. :P
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Good grades are a prerequisite for getting into good postgraduate programs. That's why I'm aiming to boost my puny GPA from 3.8 (which is what I have now) to something within 4.2 - 4.5 range by the time I graduate.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, and over here large companies (Siemens, Eriksson, T-Com) create lists of job applicants sorted by their GPA. Those with higher GPA land better starting positions with higher sallaries.
 
Kharn said:
Jebus said:
In that case, I'll strive to become a Doctor in history.

Then I can taunt you, you arrogant Hollandistanian.
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I'll become a super-doctor summa cum superlaude ars gratia artis et cetero censeo carthaginem esse delendam et tu filii of History.
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You can become all you want; at the end of the day you'll still be Dutch and I still won't.

You just can't win this.
 
Kharn said:
1. What is this "bachelor" you speak of? I've never heard of a bachelor that wasn't a BA or a BS. Are you speaking of degrees from HBOs?
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Yep. That's a normal Bachelor.
Kharn said:
2. Bachelor is not a recognised diploma wherever it is new. Yes, quack about it as much as you want, but continental Europe is still adapting their old mindset to this new system, which essentially means that to the bosses, "bachelor" just means "doesn't have his master yet"
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Which is why a Bachelor of Arts or Science is not useful.

Kharn said:
3. Really? Masters aren't useful for getting a job as a garbageman? I'd never have guessed
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Examples: Computer Science bachelor is more aimed at practicality than at theory, whereas a Bachelor of Science in CS is a lot more theoretical. Same goes for almost every study, really.


Kharn said:
Patently untrue, though it depends on what field you pursue afterwards.

If you wish to continue in the research field or academic field after your study, you better be damned sure a summa cum laude will get you somewhere

Example of my cum laude drs. of history brother, who has been published several times now and is working at the Historical Documentation Center in the VU.
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Would he have been there without his cum laude too, I wonder then.
Recent list, I though it was in SUM, of things that look good on your resume showed that grades were barely above being a member of a fraternity, having been at the head of some student organisation for a year counts for a lot more, for instance.
Fact is if you're ever going to apply for a job, the chance that they will ask for or even glance at your grades is minimal. It's much more important to have that title and work experience.
 
Jebus said:
You can become all you want; at the end of the day you'll still be Dutch and I still won't.
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Aww snap...

Sander said:
Yep. That's a normal Bachelor.
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'k

Sander said:
Which is why a Bachelor of Arts or Science is not useful.
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Yes, that was my original point, thanks for pointing out my point to me.

Sander said:
Examples: Computer Science bachelor is more aimed at practicality than at theory, whereas a Bachelor of Science in CS is a lot more theoretical. Same goes for almost every study, really.
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*sigh*

*knocks on Sander's skull*

Is this thing on?

Sarcasm-meter turned off there, Sander? Stating the very obvious is not a good way to show off your studentness

No, hang on, lemme try again

*puts on a shocked face*

You mean a relevant bachelor is more important than an irrelevant master? OH MY GOD. I have more of a chance of becoming a historian with a BA in history than with an MS in theoretical maths. I - WOULD - NEVER - HAVE - GUESSED.

Sander said:
Would he have been there without his cum laude too, I wonder then.
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No, he wouldn't. He was offered the job by one of his professors because of his results and his excellent final paper.

Sander said:
Recent list, I though it was in SUM, of things that look good on your resume showed that grades were barely above being a member of a fraternity, having been at the head of some student organisation for a year counts for a lot more, for instance.
Fact is if you're ever going to apply for a job, the chance that they will ask for or even glance at your grades is minimal. It's much more important to have that title and work experience.
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Being a member of a fraternity means contacts, having been the head of a student organisation means extensive experience in whatever you did there for a year. That being above your grades is not shocking. Hell, being a member of a corps-fraternity is a requirement to work at Shell, having studied really isn't (but snap, you have to study to be a member of the corps. Ah well)

Look, this is not your high-school diploma, Sander. Under-achieving students have a tendency to keep telling each other that grades really don't matter, yet they do. See Ratty's examples
 
Kharn said:
*sigh*

*knocks on Sander's skull*

Is this thing on?

Sarcasm-meter turned off there, Sander? Stating the very obvious is not a good way to show off your studentness

No, hang on, lemme try again

*puts on a shocked face*

You mean a relevant bachelor is more important than an irrelevant master? OH MY GOD. I have more of a chance of becoming a historian with a BA in history than with an MS in theoretical maths. I - WOULD - NEVER - HAVE - GUESSED.
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Not my point. A BA or BS is often less useful than just a normal Bachelor in the same field because of the difference in focus.

Kharn said:
No, he wouldn't. He was offered the job by one of his professors because of his results and his excellent final paper.
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Mkay.

Kharn said:
Being a member of a fraternity means contacts, having been the head of a student organisation means extensive experience in whatever you did there for a year. That being above your grades is not shocking. Hell, being a member of a corps-fraternity is a requirement to work at Shell, having studied really isn't (but snap, you have to study to be a member of the corps. Ah well)
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Well, you have to have been enrolled for a study to be a member of the corps, anyway.


Kharn said:
Look, this is not your high-school diploma, Sander. Under-achieving students have a tendency to keep telling each other that grades really don't matter, yet they do. See Ratty's examples
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The one problem is that I'm not an underachiever (Didn't fail a single class yet), and in fact, most non-underachievers agree with me that high grades aren't useful.
Try asking your parents or other people you know with some experience in solliciting for jobs and see if they were ever asked for grades.
 
Sander said:
The one problem is that I'm not an underachiever (Didn't fail a single class yet), and in fact, most non-underachievers agree with me that high grades aren't useful.
Try asking your parents or other people you know with some experience in solliciting for jobs and see if they were ever asked for grades.
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If you fail classes, you aren't an underachieving student - you are a non-achieving student. :)

Underachieving students are those students who have GPA lower than faculty average. Here at FER it's usually between 3.3 and 3.5 (out of 5) and steadily increasing.

Oh, by the way, I got another A today. Yay. (Heh, it rhymes.)
 
Sander said:
Not my point. A BA or BS is often less useful than just a normal Bachelor in the same field because of the difference in focus.
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Yes. This is not news. Never has been.

Sander said:
The one problem is that I'm not an underachiever (Didn't fail a single class yet), and in fact, most non-underachievers agree with me that high grades aren't useful.
Try asking your parents or other people you know with some experience in solliciting for jobs and see if they were ever asked for grades.
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I will presume I have more experience in the job market and more knowledge of several sections of the job market than you, having moved about a bit.

It's true that diplomas are more important than grades, as are some types of ec activity and the like. This does not make them irrelevant.

Also, passing classes doesn't make you an achiever.

Also, cum laude and summa cum laude, as well as with honors, are titles an employer doesn't have to pore over for a long time, like grades, and you'd better be damned sure employers look at that. Hell, my high school grades were even relevant to my horeca job, let alone further recommendations...

The fact that students who probably never held a fulltime job in their life disagre with me fails to impress me.

See for further reference Ratty's post, which you still ignored

Oh, and did I forget the retardedly obvious point that since university is actually teaching you something and higher grades exemplify that you're better at it, high grades mean more knowledge and experience which'll simply enable you to move up in life fast no matter whether or not people hire you because of them. Duh, gypsy
 
Kharn said:
I will presume I have more experience in the job market and more knowledge of several sections of the job market than you, having moved about a bit.
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Wait, are you saying that you know more about the job market because you have moved more? Or am I supposed to read something else here?
Also, I'm talking about post-graduation jobs, and since you're in your first year, I'll just assume you don't have any experience in that field.

Kharn said:
Also, passing classes doesn't make you an achiever.
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Only at most 50% of people in this study get their propedeuse within 2 years. I'd say receiving it in one year is an achievement, then.

Kharn said:
Also, cum laude and summa cum laude, as well as with honors, are titles an employer doesn't have to pore over for a long time, like grades, and you'd better be damned sure employers look at that. Hell, my high school grades were even relevant to my horeca job, let alone further recommendations...

The fact that students who probably never held a fulltime job in their life disagre with me fails to impress me.
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Well, then you're the first case I've ever heard of where someone had to show their high-school grades, which is especially odd because it was for a horeca job.

The fact that I've never had a full-time job does not mean I haven't been in job applications, nor does it mean that I don't know anything about post-graduation job-applications. Specifically, we've had quite a bit of discussion about what to do about the fact that we have so many drop-outs in our study, specifically the issue that almost no-one seeks high grades. The main cause was that getting higher grades has no attraction, and it doesn't really matter in a further career either. Everyone agreed that this was the case, including all of the faculty employees, people who have been in quite some job-applications.
Kharn said:
See for further reference Ratty's post, which you still ignored
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Ratty is specifically talking about certain jobs in Croatia, where it is known beforehand that they look at grades. There is no necessity whatsoever to have good grades to get into post-graduate programs here.
 
Now look what You've done to Sovz' brilliant romanian autodestruction thread. Couldn't You continue Your bachelor combat in a separate thread? Now...


Farmer 'breaks' penis

A newly married Romanian farmer fractured his penis after ogling his young wife while carrying a heavy sack of grain.

Farmer Gheorghe Popa, 52, from Galati, had been moving the grain sacks to the barn when he stopped to watch his 25-year-old wife Loredana hang up the washing.

He got himself over excited and dropped the sack on his erect penis, snapping vital tendons and ligaments.

Doctor Nicolae Bacalbasa said: "It was a bizarre accident, and he was in a lot of pain.

"We have done what we can for him but he may never regain use of the organ again, at least for sexual purposes."
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1544207.html?menu=news.quirkies.unlucky
 
El Chupacabra said:
Now look what You've done to Sovz' brilliant romanian autodestruction thread. Couldn't You continue Your bachelor combat in a separate thread? Now...


Farmer 'breaks' penis

A newly married Romanian farmer fractured his penis after ogling his young wife while carrying a heavy sack of grain.

Farmer Gheorghe Popa, 52, from Galati, had been moving the grain sacks to the barn when he stopped to watch his 25-year-old wife Loredana hang up the washing.

He got himself over excited and dropped the sack on his erect penis, snapping vital tendons and ligaments.

Doctor Nicolae Bacalbasa said: "It was a bizarre accident, and he was in a lot of pain.

"We have done what we can for him but he may never regain use of the organ again, at least for sexual purposes."
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1544207.html?menu=news.quirkies.unlucky
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You DO know you can't technically "break" a penis, even though you can mess it up badly by overbending it (which rarely results in chronic issues)?

Also, I didn't know farmers run around naked while carrying grain around. Unless he was in a very very weird position or has a very deformed penis, there is no way in hell he can "break" his wang like that.

You got to try a bit harder than that.
 
Sadly, There is nothing about lost or mutliated penii, but this Romanian news, and it is today. And it kind of goes with TVD's request of less mastication. (Dunno how much education is involved here, though)

Ghetto News Source Linked from AIM news ticker said:
MPs use umbrellas in parliament

Romanian MPs had to use umbrellas in parliament after rain started leaking through the ceiling of the newly renovated building.

Romanian MPs had to use umbrellas in parliament after rain leaked through the ceiling of their newly renovated building /Sorin Cazacu

Debate was disrupted as MPs wiped down their desks and changed seats to get out of the rain.

Some of them blamed former dictator Nicolae Ceausescu for the poor quality of the Palace of Parliament, one of the world's biggest buildings.

But others said the company which earned "big money" for the renovation works was responsible.

The building's main architect, Anca Petrescu, said more than 30 hours of rain brought more water than the drainage system could handle.

Often identified as the symbol of Ceausescu's megalomania, the 6,000 room-building was built by 400 architects and 20,000 workers between 1984 and 1989.

It was recently renovated and changed into the headquarters of Romania's Parliament.
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Orignal source:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1544204.html
 
Today in Romania (Bucharest) crime is ebbing and there is an campaign "Don't lock your cars" :!:
 
Nothing like some good old fashioned good clean fun! We used to have a lot of that in college, hell there was even a betting pool for some of the fights, those wold usually take place after classes, in an alley close to the school. Quite entertaining, really.
 
"penii"? "pinii"? What is a penius and what is a pinius? I think the latter is a kind of nut, but I'm not sure.

Learn Latin or stop trying to sound smart by making up plurals of foreign words.
 
Ashmo said:
Learn Latin or stop trying to sound smart by making up plurals of foreign words.
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What’s with the cranky attitude?
Did you get sand in your vuh-jigh-nuh again?
 
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