What the fuck happened to Fallout 4's weapons?

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by ThatZenoGuy, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Hm, that kind of behaviour reminds you someone, doesn't it... Maybe... Some... Guy...

    (Yes, for some reason I never really bothered to check their IPs, Greed is an alt-account of Someguy37)
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  2. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    @Jebus fucking christ ... have you always been an admin?
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  3. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Huh... my joking theory was right after all. Then again, the signs were there (no profile pic, insane behavior in discussions, excessive defensiveness, articulate trolling etc.).

    Though this does make it's claim that it does not believe in alting downright hypocritical. I guess even the articulate trolls resort to atypical troll tactics at some point.
  4. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Some guy... has returned...
  5. Big No

    Big No Watch as I open and close this door

    Oct 28, 2014
    He's been gone since Wednesday, I guess he gave up. Unless he plans on a dramatic return.
  6. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Probably, he's already came back once.
  7. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    He'll be back. They always come back.

    Well except @Slayerite, though it could be he's just waiting for the perfect moment to return.
  8. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Slayerite got banned outright so it can't come back through that account. Plus it hates this site so I doubt it'll be back.
  9. Risewild

    Risewild Carbon Dated and Proud
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    With an attitude and work practices like this and you became an Admin? Outrageous! :lmao:

    It's a joke!
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  10. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Here's hoping.
  11. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Dunno, he knows that we know that he uses an alt-account. I told him on wednesday that he should out a notice in his signature to let people know that he's an alt-account if he had any issues with his old account, but he hasn't been online since then. I guess now that people finally started ignoring Someguy37 he thought that a fresh account would enable him to piss off people some more, so putting a sign in his signature that people can safely ignore him kinda makes it all pointless. I doubt he comes back soon. Or maybe it really was just a misunderstanding, I don't know.

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  12. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    I get the feeling that the former is the more likely case; that Someguy37 probably wanted to continue pissing people off here but without the stigma (or immediate dismissal) of that account hence creating an alt account. The way Greed handled several discussions here reeks of Someguy37's kind of arguments. If Greed does not come back, it lend credence to the theory that Someguy37 did make the alt account and saw that keeping said alt account would be pointless due to being found out. Though, it could all be some misunderstanding.

    Look at it this way. More trolls like Slayerite will come and go as they always do. From what I can tell, blatant trolls usually get bored of the site after a while (or get banned due to their blatant baiting) so they leave and never come back. The latest blatant troll so far got banned immediately upon making a few posts in its own thread (which got vatted, plus said thread was obvious bait).
  13. Zerginfestor

    Zerginfestor dear god, the scrapping

    Apr 18, 2015
    Wow, 5 whole pages, if not more, of people biting his bait and derailing this topic. Anyhow, I think I said this before, but besides the weapon design being god awful (assault Rifle being an ass of a rile, Flamer looking unrealistic for any situation, even in industrial areas, pipe weapons, etc), the weapon viability was also shit. Laser Weapons trumped everything else, and Gatling Laser was, ironically, the best weapon to use for Survival because of the stupid logic of Fusion Cores. The Flamer was the 2nd most damaging efficient weapon, but because of how they place ammo in 200 quantities, you could never find enough, unlike in NV, where you could easily spend over 10k caps from buying Flamer Fuel (which costs only 1 bottlecap pure unit of fuel) in one sitting of shops. Thus the game enforced you to go with the Gatling Laser and just derp about, which again had an effect on people's playstyle and would, inevitably, make people bored. Can only do so much with one weapon before you're finally sick of it and just done with the game in general.
  14. Jogre

    Jogre So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 25, 2015
    I miss classy trolls like @Superman

    I mean, say what you will about him, but all of his trolling attempts were at least in good taste.
  15. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
  16. PleaseNoCazadors

    PleaseNoCazadors First time out of the vault

    Dec 4, 2016
    The absence of Adam Adamowicz (their main concept artist) really hurt their creativity. FO4 just seems... odd. And seriously, what the hell is this.
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  17. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Carbon Dated and Proud

    Nov 26, 2007
    That... appears to be someone's [self-believed] clever attempt at an 57' Impala themed gun.

    They don't get it; they have it all, and they still don't get it.
    One wonders if any of their artists-for-hire have ever looked at the Fallout 1 sniper rifle, or laser rifle?
    (Or it could be that they have, and are forced to make this stuff by a clueless* management, convinced it must look like the 1950's that never was. )

    *The sad part there, is that it's likely not clueless at all, but with an understanding of their average consumer's lack of understanding. A calculated choice.
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  18. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Yer fond of me Lobster!

    Oct 26, 2016
    I might be reaching here, but I could have sworn Bethesda mentioned their lack of knowledge when it came to firearms in an interview.

    If this was the case, it's still a poor excuse since a simple google image search would give you an idea of simple firearm aesthetic/function. Fallout 3 was somewhat competent when it came to basic firearms like the Hunting Rifle or the Assault Rifle, so I'm having a hard time conceptualizing the step-backward.
  19. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016

    I had a discussion recently with some people, where I explained my dislike of Fallout 4, and how it has like...3 'canon' weapons which match with fallout 1-2-NV.

    In return, I had "But it has 10mm pistol and plasma pistol too!"

    Oh yes, because 'those' ugly pieces of shit are totally the same as the classic weapons...
  20. Zerginfestor

    Zerginfestor dear god, the scrapping

    Apr 18, 2015
    Their lack of knowledge on how firearms and laser weaponry work is pretty evident with none other than the Assault Rifle. Seriously, reload that bastard, or the Revolver. Both of these weapons defy the Laws of Physics, reloading a Revolver pointing it up and whipping it slowly to the right while the Assault Rifle is literally slamming a magazine in...and that's it! That's fucking it! No bolt slider, no opening of the backside to place the rounds correctly in and one in the chamber, Nothing! It's just...slam it in and there ya go, which is beyond idiotic.

    So far the only decent ballistic weapon in terms of SOUND is the Combat rifle. Boomy, has a good repetitive sound. Sounds and feels like it hits like a truck with how the recoil is on it. After that? Everything else seems shit.