Not a whole lot. The only RPGs I've ever played was:
AND THERE GOES MY FIRST ACTUAL INSULT!
Well I mean, it's a game where you can play the role of a character where you can define their personality, there's different ways to customize that character for a certain playstyle, there are quests you can partake in, and you have a choice on how quests and the ending will conclude.
IMO the term RPG is too broad to not consider Fallout 4 one.
Insult? No darling that was a recommendation.
Why is reddit too hardcore for me though? Or why even use the term 'hardcore'? Ia hating Bethesda a requirement for this place? Is my kind not welcome 'round 'hurr?
Actually it's the same amount of endings, but the endings in Fallout 4 have more of an impact beyond you not being able to pick a character.
By that definition Call of Duty, Donky Kong and bread simulator are RPGs.
Nope. Your character is a pre-defined character. You can make tiny deviations here and there "hmm, do I want to say yes, yes sarcastically, or no" but that's it.
This is also incorrect. Fallout 4 has one of the most streamlined and uncustomizable system bethesda has made yet. There are no skill trees (hell, there are no skills!), theres no speech checks for thinks like intelligence or perception and theres very little time any of those attributes that do, do anything actually matter. Besides occasionally getting a couple of more caps honestly what use is there for charisma? Companion based perks? They're invincible! Settlement construction? That half baked mess is the dribbling inbred brother of a much better mod for Fallout 3/New Vegas and you can go the whole game never even bothering with that window dressing feature.
So all it takes to be an RPG is to have missions you can do? I'll refer you back to my first point.
Oh you can choose one of the few poorly written cookie cutter endings if you want. None of which involve you actually failing the quest of course. God forbid theres any actual challenge.
This point of contention of how broadly do you define the definition of an RPG has lead to few definitive answers. Perhaps to settle this, there could be a defined standard such as 50+% of quests (a task, however you call it) must have multiple outcomes for a game to be classified as an RPG.
I find that far, far too loose. I think that in order to be an RPG you have to also have the proper gameplay mechanics to back it up as well. Not just having each quest have a couple of different tacked on endings.
That is actually false. Sure, your backstory is always being a vet/lawyer with a child, but it's not always about whether you say yes or not, but rather how you say. A no isn't always a jerkass response, and a yes isn't always a diplomatic response. The way you respond to characters actually affect the way they look at you, like for instance, if you talked about how you enjoyed killing Kellog, Nick dislikes it.
true, but DnD elements aren't everything.
The perk trees are the new skill trees unfortunatly, but it's still a tree. And again, DnD elements aren't everything
I assume that last statement was a question without a question mark, so I'll just add this: Do you think the Frozen One(nickname for sole survivor) could handle fighting a group of raiders with a pool cue if he/she had 1 strength? Or how is the Frozen One with an agility of 1 gonna sneak past those super mutants? Yeah it's the bare minimum, but it still counts.
To by cheaper and sell deeper, to be able to make wasteland creatures not attack you, to convince Maxson not to kill Danse, and to convince your companions not to leave you when you continue to act against their wishes.
I know that, because Howard at e3 himself said it was optional, and I don't bother with it anyway.
If I ever said that was the sole requirement for it being an RPG, could you please point out where I said that?
Well at least I can see the outcomes of those endings. I prefer that to a slideshow telling me those outcomes.
Should have mentioned, there must be a character system, too in order for the game to respond to the player's abilities by affecting the outcome of quests, besides just providing rewards such as better combat skills or lower prices.
Those slideshows have the effect of informing you of the outcome of your choice, all Fallout 4 gives you is a couple of robots standing around a flag in Diamond City, without anyone acknowledging their existence (even that lady that's afraid of synths has nothing to say!). I know which one I prefer (the one that actually has an effect on the world).
Actually D&D elements ARE everything, since D&D was the first RPG, if it wasn't for it there wouldn't be any RPGs, hell even jRPGS were based on D&D.
*Shrugs* It just looked like you had no experience with RGPs, as in my opinion liking dialogue wheels in RPGs is akin to using motor-driven bicycles on a cycling tour in the mountains, and explaining everyone else who's not using it, how awesome it is. Would you be surprised if people gave you strange looks?
"I normally hate RPGs and don't like Fallout but I love Fallout 4!"
Hahaha
Fucking what?
That's in the wrong category, I think you meant to put that in "hiking simulator"
RPG doesn't mean what you think it does...
What is that a checklist?
...No? I once tried to make an account back in November 2015 but I messed up trying to send the authorization code, but this is otherwise my first legit account.
That, and checkpoints across the Commonwealth roads, radio stations talking about it, and if you find out that Mayor Mcdonald is a synth, that lady does say something about it. And technically, the main quest ending isn't really an ending to the game itself.
Dude, RPGs have been around for hundreds of years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_role-playing_games
I dunno, you sound like you want the game to be a different type of game. If they removed the minigame for high level characters, people would be complaining about it being too easy. Then again, people already complain about it being too easy. Also why call it lockpicking if you don't actually lockpick?
Again, it sounds like you want this game be a different type of game. Fallout 4 is an action-RPG, not a turn-based RPG.
