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Meh, I'll stick with PC and a PS4 for the moment. Some of Sony's exclusives are pretty fun, not great, but entertaining enough. Not to mention that I always get fighters on consoles since that's what all my friends have. Heck at this point I'd take a Wii U over Xbox One even if that is gimmicky as hell too. At least that's going to have Bayonetta 2 on it.

I also lol'd at how they were boasting fidelity during CoD Ghosts when I've seen much better looking games already that are older. I saw an example that compared Crysis 1 and the new CoD, and Crysis 1 looked better.

While in the end what does matter are the games, I doubt there will be anything that interests me and that I won't be able get on something else.
 
yea, in the reveal they didnt say they were bringing the PC DRM of activation codes for games to cash in on the used game market to it.

that would have helped sony a ton.
 
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Xbox schmecksbox bla bla bla.

Did you hear that the new Mortal Kombat is finally coming to PC? Now that's good news.
 
We'll see how it works out I remember all the same hype for ps3 and it could barely run skyrim and most only picked it up after price drop because it was cheaper than other Blu rays. As for CoD I could care less if they ever make one again I like the sports games online and live trumps whatever sonys crap service is. Other than that most single player games I want are going to be available for both so we'll see when all the details are out for both.
 
well, here is what we know about consoles graphically

ps3 = 1/4 1080 or 480x270 native resolution for games
1/2 1080 or 960x540 native resolution for blu-ray

xbox360elite = 1/4 720 or 360x180 native resolution for games

ps4 = 1/2 1080 or 960x540 for games, and full 1080 native for blu-ray


XboxOne = microsoft has admitted it is less capable GPU/architecture vs PS4


keep in mind, this is all at 30 FPS

by mid 90s computer PCs were doing 1024x768 @ 60 FPS.

consoles, bringing you early 90s technology today!
 
consoles, bringing you early 90s technology today!

I fucking hate seeing people say dumb shit like that. Don't get me wrong I know console hardware does not compete in terms of raw power the pc can push out but consoles benefit from using standard hardware because developers can focus on getting the most power out of what is available thus making great looking games on very out of date hardware to what is available in the pc. The PC platform suffers in games because of the so many varying hardware levels that developers need to cater for a large range of graphics settings and hardware levels that in the end real world performance suffers.
 
TheWesDude said:
well, here is what we know about consoles graphically

ps3 = 1/4 1080 or 480x270 native resolution for games
1/2 1080 or 960x540 native resolution for blu-ray

xbox360elite = 1/4 720 or 360x180 native resolution for games

ps4 = 1/2 1080 or 960x540 for games, and full 1080 native for blu-ray


XboxOne = microsoft has admitted it is less capable GPU/architecture vs PS4


keep in mind, this is all at 30 FPS

by mid 90s computer PCs were doing 1024x768 @ 60 FPS.

consoles, bringing you early 90s technology today!
What an absurd simplification. 90s computer with what hardware? How much did it cost? Hey, did you know that running a current-gen game at 720p is WAY more demanding than a 20 year old game at the same resolution?

Also, Xbox One will play Blu-rays at full 1080p resolution. Hello? As far as the game resolution... I seriously hope that the PS4 isn't downgrading from 720p to some weird half-of-1080p resolution.

The Xbox One doesn't have as much raw power/bandwidth as the PS4, no. It does have an embedded eSRAM solution that the PS4 doesn't, though, and really the difference is pretty minor. Also, given that the vast majority of AAA titles are multi-platform, most games will be targeting the Xbox One's hardware anyway and so the PS4's extra power will largely not even come into play.

Disclaimer: I am not currently planning on getting an Xbox One. Or a PS4 for that matter.
 
Serifan said:
consoles, bringing you early 90s technology today!

I fucking hate seeing people say dumb shit like that. Don't get me wrong I know console hardware does not compete in terms of raw power the pc can push out but consoles benefit from using standard hardware because developers can focus on getting the most power out of what is available thus making great looking games on very out of date hardware to what is available in the pc. The PC platform suffers in games because of the so many varying hardware levels that developers need to cater for a large range of graphics settings and hardware levels that in the end real world performance suffers.
nonsense. I have forgot a lot about programming, but I still know enough to tell you that the PC is a very standardized platform. You might have graphic cards and hardware from different companies, but the principles they work on really isn't different. Its not like you have to make the games for each graphic card individually.

Its NOT the fault of the PC platform if developers stop to actually care about correct programming, which is something we also experience on the consoles. The moment they started with "patches" on it, you saw a huge increase in bugs. Bethesda for example is releasing very buggy content on all platforms. Despite the fact that the console has this oh-so-standardized hardware. I have played mods out there which had more content then most call of duty games, and felt far less buggy.

Developers and publishers talk a lot of shit if it suits them. Like "we could not do this or that because of engine limitations". Bullshit. There is no engine limitation. Just time. If you cant do certain features because you have been runing out of time, then say it. Same as "We stoped to make games for the PC because it sells a lot better on consoles". Bullshit. If you feed your consumer with things they dont want to buy, yeah, surprise! The console is not even really different here. Capcomi released less and less content that felt like Survival Horror, and they are now suddenly saying "survival horror is dead". Absolutely! I guess thats why people liked Amnesia or Alen Wake so much. Because its a dead franchise.
 
kyuu

the PS4 will be able to do blu-ray 1080 native, but for games it will be half that

we do not know if the new xbox will be 720 or 1080 base, but it will have to be able to output 1080 because that is the blu-ray standard.

question is will it be able to handle 1080 native for blu-ray or not. we can expect that as the PS4 will not be able to do native 1080 for games, and the new xbox is less powerful, it wont even be able to do 1/2 1080 for games.
 
TheWesDude said:
kyuu

the PS4 will be able to do blu-ray 1080 native, but for games it will be half that

we do not know if the new xbox will be 720 or 1080 base, but it will have to be able to output 1080 because that is the blu-ray standard.

question is will it be able to handle 1080 native for blu-ray or not. we can expect that as the PS4 will not be able to do native 1080 for games, and the new xbox is less powerful, it wont even be able to do 1/2 1080 for games.
Where are you getting this weird half-of-1080p resolution for games thing? Why would they do that? Half of 1080p is less than 720p. What would be the point of regressing in that way, unless there's more to it than simply running at such a weird target resolution?

Anyway, the point is, most games are going to target the Xbox One's hardware and so it's not really terribly relevant if the PS4 is a bit more powerful. The PS3 is more powerful than the 360, but games pretty much look the same on either platform, because they're just going to target the weakest platform and call it a day most of the time; although, it's also because of the Xbox 360 having superior development tools and not being a bitch to develop for like the PS3.
 
kyuu

because their hardware cant handle it.

thats why they are running such low native resolutions.

why is this even a surprise for you?

did you honestly think that they ran higher resolutions natively with their extremely low technical specs?

until we know what the specifics are for the xboxone, we wont know if it will be able to handle a native blu-ray resolution for them. the PS3 couldnt. the PS4 will be able to for blu-ray, but not for games.

you really havent been keeping up with the actual specs and performance for these things have you.
 
the few angry joe videos i have seen, it makes him seem like a low-brow version of yhatzee

at least his videos entertain!
 
yeah well, I guess thats pretty much the reason why people do watch him at all. The comments and his "rage" makes it somewhat funny. Its very low entrainment though ... I admit that.

most of the comments hes throwing around that are about the games don't always make sense though.

After watching his "Ace of Combat" review, he complains about the fact that ... simulations are ... simulations? They are boring because you spend most of your time flying around shooting rockets at pixels on your screen that are a several kilometers away. Uh? Hello there? What have you not got about "simulation". He knows its "supposed" to be realistic, but he doesn't care because its not fun? Wow. That totally makes sense ... I guess. Its those kind of comments where I can only shake my head, because I enjoyed quite a few simulations in the past. Not flight simulations but a few tank sims and "realism games" like Red Orchestra, Arma and the like. Sure, whats boring for some, is entertaining for others though, I mean its not like those games don't try to sell as anything else then being a simulation or realistic.
 
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TheWesDude said:
kyuu

the PS4 will be able to do blu-ray 1080 native, but for games it will be half that

Killzone:Shadow Fall is 1080 native.


TheWesDude said:
kyuu

because their hardware cant handle it.

The PS3 had games in native 1080 resolution but the PS4 can't? You make no sense.

You weren't serious, right? Right?
 
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