Yup, we are trully f***ed...

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by brfritos, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. brfritos

    brfritos Humma Kavulaaaaaaa

    Sep 8, 2009

    Gosh, more than 25 years waiting for another terrific experience like Tie-Fighter and this is the best they can do?

    No wonder the icing on the cake today is Angry Birds.
  2. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    Good article; the conclusion is rather optimistic and leaves one hoping that this'll happen sooner rather than later - I certainly hope it does.

    Unfortunately the trend seems to be going in a different direction: eliminating all other sub-genres in favor of the interactive online experience.
  3. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Dead Island? That is one badly research lulz picture! Dead Island is all about close combat, guns are rare in that game. I AM ANGRY BECAUSE HE DID NOT RESEARCH HIS LULZY PICTURE

    That was a nice article though, yes. I mentioned his first point myself in the E3 thread;
    What annoys me is that all these gimmicks appear to be degenerating the industry. Fable: The Journey is a friggin rail shooter, Star Wars Kinect looks like shit and also looks linear and boring. Voice commands? Welcome to fucking 1990.

    It just feels like we're getting lost in gimmicks which is making the industry grind to a bloody halt and then go backwards with stupid shit.

    Oh well.

    It is worrisome, and I don't understand why it isn't being criticized more by game journalists. That's exactly what they're there for. I know, I know, it's not a field that shines in competence, but this is exactly the kind of issue I would still expect them to be able to jump on, just like they mock all the brownness in games.

    Creative bankruptcy is another one I have to roll my eyes at. To be fair, a ton of sequels and based-on-properties games has always been a part of videogaming, but both films and videogames as industries are putting way too much emphasis on safe, tentpole franchises: franchises whose value has been established and can be exploited without too much risk. I'm not a fan, but wouldn't know what to do about it.
  4. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    Because they make a living by praising it, maybe? Gaming industry is probably the worst when it comes to "bribing" journalists into writing what they want to hear, partly because the prices for the products are greater.
  5. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Yeah, but the tendency to praise everything makes it easier to target one specific subject like a pack of rabbit dogs. Especially if they can be very "general" about it and not criticize one specific product, like they could about the trend of gimmicky consoles.
  6. PainlessDocM

    PainlessDocM Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 5, 2010
  7. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    I'm getting bit tired of people just posting links instead of content. Keep it up and I'll start vatting this shit.

    Anyway, Molyneux lying is nothing new. I don't care what he says, I'll believe it when I see it. He's full of shit, 24/7, and has zero credibility left. Not that I care about Fable: The Journey anyway.
  8. vanzizzle

    vanzizzle It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Feb 15, 2010
    Fable was shitted on when fable 2 came out just as fallout 3 shitted on fallout.
  9. Ohaimerk

    Ohaimerk modoc, den, grave Orderite

    Mar 30, 2009
    I think Fable was shitted on when the first game came out and everyone realized that PM was a huge troll.
  10. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Heh I had to laugh when I saw the picture as its so damn true, and people keep gobbling it up.

    I read some of the article and the writer got it pretty accurate but I think he or she might be a bit to optimistic in some cases.

    I think the current trends will continue until even the gamers who keep buying the games now grow tired of it and refuse to support the game industry, leading to publishers and their marketing department demanding that developers change their work again on what is popular but never really learning what the real problems are.
  11. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    what we need is.

    Tabula Rasa

    No not the fucking game (which I never played). I mean it literally. If all the game companies would crush now. Steam, EA, Activision, etc.

    Maybe then we could start new and fresh >_>

    A collapsing gaming market would be good for the gamer at least.
  12. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    It's certainly been in crisis for years. But a repeat of the Atari crash doesn't seem to be incoming.

    The whole software industry is currently going through an enormous bubble though. Mark my words, we're heading to another crash. How big it'll be I have no idea, but to think the current overheating of the Apps market is sustainable is laughable. The same is true for much of Google's stock value. It's a joke.
  13. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    One thign I foudn completely facepalm worthy was the guy saying that visual adventure games are nto actualty games.... it basicaly lost me there.
  14. I saw that article a while back. It, especially the picture, really spoke to me. I had a feeling not just nma was pissed off at thestate of gaming today.
  15. maximaz

    maximaz Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 2, 2006
    Fable was a good game. Not as good as PM said it would be but still a very decent adventure game. It could have been a beginning of something great.
  16. 34thcell

    34thcell Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Sep 22, 2008
    The issue is that AAA titles aren't particularly rewarded for depth by consumers, as with film. Sure they'll buy it, but it won't stop them buying something else that's completely shallow. The money doesn't care, so the producers don't care.
  17. brfritos

    brfritos Humma Kavulaaaaaaa

    Sep 8, 2009
    My internet was down the whole day... :x

    The guy is trully optmistic at the end of the article, but I'm not. You see, what the first thing people say back when you criticize a game? "But it sold xxx amounts of copies and earn xxx of money, therefore it can't be bad. You're a dinosaur and should stop playing games", replies little Johnny.

    Games companies need to make money, I don't argue with this, but money it's a means to an end, not the end itself.

    With the game companies brainwashing and feeding BS to players, players gladly eating it, no wonder we don't don't see too much depth in games today.
  18. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    I would like to remind everyone that Fable (the first) is not a creation of Molyneux, but of these guys and their studio. Molyneux just jumped in to ruin what he could and overhype the game before then pretending the entire franchise is his baby.

    And people fell for it, too.
  19. Guiltyofbeingtrite

    Guiltyofbeingtrite Vault Dweller

    Oct 13, 2008
    I think he's wrong to say something like Heavy Rain shouldn't be classified a game. A game is an incredibly broad category that encompasses everything between checkers and football. I think he's spot on to say it should be viewed differently, however. I also like his ideas on pricing. Once more people, at least in the US, start using monthly recurring payments in everyday life we may see more subscription based multiplayer games. It would be great for many parties if Modern Warfare 3 was $5-7/month. And a shorter game like Heavy Rain should start at closer to the $30-40 range.