brfritos
Humma Kavulaaaaaaa
Gosh, more than 25 years waiting for another terrific experience like Tie-Fighter and this is the best they can do?
No wonder the icing on the cake today is Angry Birds.
Yup, we are trully f***ed...
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Gosh, more than 25 years waiting for another terrific experience like Tie-Fighter and this is the best they can do?
No wonder the icing on the cake today is Angry Birds.
Good article; the conclusion is rather optimistic and leaves one hoping that this'll happen sooner rather than later - I certainly hope it does.
Unfortunately the trend seems to be going in a different direction: eliminating all other sub-genres in favor of the interactive online experience.
Unfortunately the trend seems to be going in a different direction: eliminating all other sub-genres in favor of the interactive online experience.
Dead Island? That is one badly research lulz picture! Dead Island is all about close combat, guns are rare in that game. I AM ANGRY BECAUSE HE DID NOT RESEARCH HIS LULZY PICTURE
That was a nice article though, yes. I mentioned his first point myself in the E3 thread;
What annoys me is that all these gimmicks appear to be degenerating the industry. Fable: The Journey is a friggin rail shooter, Star Wars Kinect looks like shit and also looks linear and boring. Voice commands? Welcome to fucking 1990.
It just feels like we're getting lost in gimmicks which is making the industry grind to a bloody halt and then go backwards with stupid shit.
Oh well.
It is worrisome, and I don't understand why it isn't being criticized more by game journalists. That's exactly what they're there for. I know, I know, it's not a field that shines in competence, but this is exactly the kind of issue I would still expect them to be able to jump on, just like they mock all the brownness in games.
Creative bankruptcy is another one I have to roll my eyes at. To be fair, a ton of sequels and based-on-properties games has always been a part of videogaming, but both films and videogames as industries are putting way too much emphasis on safe, tentpole franchises: franchises whose value has been established and can be exploited without too much risk. I'm not a fan, but wouldn't know what to do about it.
That was a nice article though, yes. I mentioned his first point myself in the E3 thread;
What annoys me is that all these gimmicks appear to be degenerating the industry. Fable: The Journey is a friggin rail shooter, Star Wars Kinect looks like shit and also looks linear and boring. Voice commands? Welcome to fucking 1990.
It just feels like we're getting lost in gimmicks which is making the industry grind to a bloody halt and then go backwards with stupid shit.
Oh well.
It is worrisome, and I don't understand why it isn't being criticized more by game journalists. That's exactly what they're there for. I know, I know, it's not a field that shines in competence, but this is exactly the kind of issue I would still expect them to be able to jump on, just like they mock all the brownness in games.
Creative bankruptcy is another one I have to roll my eyes at. To be fair, a ton of sequels and based-on-properties games has always been a part of videogaming, but both films and videogames as industries are putting way too much emphasis on safe, tentpole franchises: franchises whose value has been established and can be exploited without too much risk. I'm not a fan, but wouldn't know what to do about it.
Yeah, but the tendency to praise everything makes it easier to target one specific subject like a pack of rabbit dogs. Especially if they can be very "general" about it and not criticize one specific product, like they could about the trend of gimmicky consoles.
PainlessDocM
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
I'm getting bit tired of people just posting links instead of content. Keep it up and I'll start vatting this shit.
Anyway, Molyneux lying is nothing new. I don't care what he says, I'll believe it when I see it. He's full of shit, 24/7, and has zero credibility left. Not that I care about Fable: The Journey anyway.
Anyway, Molyneux lying is nothing new. I don't care what he says, I'll believe it when I see it. He's full of shit, 24/7, and has zero credibility left. Not that I care about Fable: The Journey anyway.
Heh I had to laugh when I saw the picture as its so damn true, and people keep gobbling it up.
I read some of the article and the writer got it pretty accurate but I think he or she might be a bit to optimistic in some cases.
I think the current trends will continue until even the gamers who keep buying the games now grow tired of it and refuse to support the game industry, leading to publishers and their marketing department demanding that developers change their work again on what is popular but never really learning what the real problems are.
I read some of the article and the writer got it pretty accurate but I think he or she might be a bit to optimistic in some cases.
I think the current trends will continue until even the gamers who keep buying the games now grow tired of it and refuse to support the game industry, leading to publishers and their marketing department demanding that developers change their work again on what is popular but never really learning what the real problems are.
what we need is.
Tabula Rasa
No not the fucking game (which I never played). I mean it literally. If all the game companies would crush now. Steam, EA, Activision, etc.
Maybe then we could start new and fresh >_>
A collapsing gaming market would be good for the gamer at least.
Tabula Rasa
No not the fucking game (which I never played). I mean it literally. If all the game companies would crush now. Steam, EA, Activision, etc.
Maybe then we could start new and fresh >_>
A collapsing gaming market would be good for the gamer at least.
It's certainly been in crisis for years. But a repeat of the Atari crash doesn't seem to be incoming.
The whole software industry is currently going through an enormous bubble though. Mark my words, we're heading to another crash. How big it'll be I have no idea, but to think the current overheating of the Apps market is sustainable is laughable. The same is true for much of Google's stock value. It's a joke.
The whole software industry is currently going through an enormous bubble though. Mark my words, we're heading to another crash. How big it'll be I have no idea, but to think the current overheating of the Apps market is sustainable is laughable. The same is true for much of Google's stock value. It's a joke.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
One thign I foudn completely facepalm worthy was the guy saying that visual adventure games are nto actualty games.... it basicaly lost me there.
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I saw that article a while back. It, especially the picture, really spoke to me. I had a feeling not just nma was pissed off at thestate of gaming today.
maximaz
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Farmerk said:
Fable was a good game. Not as good as PM said it would be but still a very decent adventure game. It could have been a beginning of something great.
brfritos
Humma Kavulaaaaaaa
My internet was down the whole day... 
The guy is trully optmistic at the end of the article, but I'm not. You see, what the first thing people say back when you criticize a game? "But it sold xxx amounts of copies and earn xxx of money, therefore it can't be bad. You're a dinosaur and should stop playing games", replies little Johnny.
Games companies need to make money, I don't argue with this, but money it's a means to an end, not the end itself.
With the game companies brainwashing and feeding BS to players, players gladly eating it, no wonder we don't don't see too much depth in games today.
The guy is trully optmistic at the end of the article, but I'm not. You see, what the first thing people say back when you criticize a game? "But it sold xxx amounts of copies and earn xxx of money, therefore it can't be bad. You're a dinosaur and should stop playing games", replies little Johnny.
Games companies need to make money, I don't argue with this, but money it's a means to an end, not the end itself.
With the game companies brainwashing and feeding BS to players, players gladly eating it, no wonder we don't don't see too much depth in games today.
maximaz said:
I would like to remind everyone that Fable (the first) is not a creation of Molyneux, but of these guys and their studio. Molyneux just jumped in to ruin what he could and overhype the game before then pretending the entire franchise is his baby.
And people fell for it, too.
Guiltyofbeingtrite
Vault Dweller
I think he's wrong to say something like Heavy Rain shouldn't be classified a game. A game is an incredibly broad category that encompasses everything between checkers and football. I think he's spot on to say it should be viewed differently, however. I also like his ideas on pricing. Once more people, at least in the US, start using monthly recurring payments in everyday life we may see more subscription based multiplayer games. It would be great for many parties if Modern Warfare 3 was $5-7/month. And a shorter game like Heavy Rain should start at closer to the $30-40 range.