Bethesda announces another E3 press conference

Well, it appears that with synths, Todd Howard has finally come full circle with Terminator: Future Shock and gone back to making shooters with enemies whose parts and bits fall off when you shoot them with a small assortment of fancy guns. :lol:

I'm sure his ideal product would still be not the kind of game most of NMA likes, but would come out a more decent shooter than Fallout 4 was. Todd Howard seems genuine to me but the wrong guy for an RPG series. Like he wanted to invent his own car but instead had to work with manufacturing a classic model, and went as close to his dream as possible by making the classic model almost like the car he wanted to invent. Unfortunately, people actually like the classic model, so he's undoubtedly going to get shit for changing it into what he wants it to be.

Just want to see him jump off the Bethesda ship so we can see for real if he's actually just a crap developer who has a 100 in Speech or was really mucked by Bethesda corporate pandering requirements for their games. But by then Fallout will have drowned in deep sewer water and I don't think this site will care at that point.
 
Lanfear said:
I have no idea whether Todd is a shill or not.
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You aren't a shill if you aren't hiding the fact that you are working for the company.

I honestly don't like him. The same goes for Peter Molyneux. They are both liars. It isn't just lies of omission or over promising but flat out lies. I also don't like giving the credit for good games to one person. That is what happened to George Lucas and Tim Schafer.
 
CaptJ said:
I honestly don't like him. The same goes for Peter Molyneux. They are both liars. It isn't just lies of omission or over promising but flat out lies. I also don't like giving the credit for good games to one person. That is what happened to George Lucas and Tim Schafer.
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Having one person take all the credit for a game has its benefits; it's better that Todd, Lucas, Molyneux and, Tim Schafer get all the shit for producing absolute crap then the people who actually put work into it.
 
Mr Fish said:
But if it wasn't for Toddie Boy whipping them then those games never would've sold as well as they did!
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That's pretty much the main point that keeps him charge I guess.
This, is really just speculation. I mean I never worked at Bethesda - obviously. But I would not be surprised if there are quite a few people, that are not always so fond about Todd, Emil and Hines. Particulary on the lower end of the food chain. I don't know how often I have gone out of meetings, where I thought, boy, what an idiot! Simply because of the stupid and silly things they asked from me to do. Usefull UI for the website? Not enough time to make the add? Screw that! You gona make it just how I tell you to make it! But Todd is probably the best buddy with all the people runing he whole company. Because under him, the games simply sell a ton of copies. And some people have really a way with marketing and selling. While other people are creative powerhouses.
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
Could I maybe see some proof that Todd Howard is a complete corporate drone that does nothing but market crap to the lowest denominator? So far, I just see Todd Howard as being one of these "actual people who built the game", and that his constant habit of feeding misinformation is what makes people mistake him for being a business-only marketer.

And even if you did bring up proof, companies have a habit of using developers as shields for their own decisions. I blame Bethesda Softworks for most of Fallout 4 and not much of Bethesda Game Studios. How do we know Todd is at blame for the entire debacle?

Call me naive if you wish, but I don't like to end up having blamed the wrong person, even if who I blame has no meaning on the overall outcome anyways. Too many developers get caught up in taking all the shit for the stuff the publishers pull and if Todd Howard's another one of those then we would just be doing the same thing by giving him all the hostilities.
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I <3 this.
I personally have no issues with what Bethesda has done with their IP..I mean it is their property now to do with it as they wish...to be honest if it wasn't for the popularity and acclaim of Bethesda doing their thang on Fallout 3 the Fallout community in general wouldn't be what it currently is. It's because of FO3 that I discovered the first games and its that way with alot of people.
Fallout 4 has its issues but its still an enjoyable game if you pull the stick out of your ass .

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ChairMonster said:
Fallout 4 has its issues but its still an enjoyable game if you pull the stick out of your ass.​
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Speak for yourself. I went into Fallout 4 with very low expectations and it still ended up being one of the most disappointing experiences I've had with a game in years. Any time I got dangerously close to enjoying the game it invariably whipped out some fresh stupidity to snap me back to the reality of how bad it was.
 
I mostly want to reject the notion of "an enjoyable game" in any sort of objective sense. Can people justifiably enjoy Fallout 4? Absolutely. Is there something in Fallout 4 for everyone to enjoy? I disagree.

If you're the sort of person who, in games, dislikes shooters, quickly gets bored with combat in games, and engages more with character and story than with loot and advancement, then there's really not that much for you in Fallout 4.

The litmus test is probably "Did you enjoy Borderlands". Personally I hated Borderlands, but if you did there's probably an enjoyable game in Fallout 4 for you.
 
Fallout 4 has its issues but its still an enjoyable game if you pull the stick out of your ass .
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Translation: if you stop expecting it to be like a Fallout game, having actually role playing, involving characters and dialogue, quests with multiple solutions, complex choices, and just go with the shoot and loot it can be enjoyable.

to be honest if it wasn't for the popularity and acclaim of Bethesda doing their thang on Fallout 3 the Fallout community in general wouldn't be what it currently is.
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And in what way would that have been a bad thing?
 
Yeah I'd rather preserve the memory of a loved one than have someone dig up their cadaver, tie strings to it and to a little puppet dance with it.
 
For those that think Todd has not much say in the game and it's outcome, I am afraid this is just a pipe dream.

He is the Game Director and Executive Producer of Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4. If someone has a say in it, than it is him.

So yeah, you can blame him for most of the clusterfuck you see in the game. It's him after all who gave his "OK, lets make it so!" after each meeting and each idea that is pitched to him.
 
Crni Vuk said:
For those that think Todd has not much say in the game and it's outcome, I am afraid this is just a pipe dream.

He is the Game Director and Executive Producer of Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4. If someone has a say in it, than it is him.

So yeah, you can blame him for most of the clusterfuck you see in the game. It's him after all who gave his "OK, lets make it so!" after each meeting and each idea that is pitched to him.
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So if he's #1 does that make Pete Hines a #2?
 
Honestly, I don't know. I am not even completely sure what Hines job is really at Bethesda, I mean as far as their game development goes. But If I had to make a guess? I would say, that Todd and Hines work very close together. Maybe Pete tells Todd what's the new black, and Todd makes sure his people squeze it in the game somehow. Doesn't matter if it fitts or not. Borderlands sold millions! Mincraft sold millions! Flies can't be wrong and that stuff.
 
Reminds me that there will always be 'leaders' and 'followers'.
Bethesda will always follow the gaming public, never lead it.
 
Public relations and marketing according the Fallout wiki.
So yeah, he's the one who goes "this the current trend" to the rest of the studio and is in charge of deciding how to market the game probably. So I'd say he's very influential in how the game is going to shape up to be.
 
PossibleCabbage said:
I mostly want to reject the notion of "an enjoyable game" in any sort of objective sense. Can people justifiably enjoy Fallout 4? Absolutely. Is there something in Fallout 4 for everyone to enjoy? I disagree.

If you're the sort of person who, in games, dislikes shooters, quickly gets bored with combat in games, and engages more with character and story than with loot and advancement, then there's really not that much for you in Fallout 4.

The litmus test is probably "Did you enjoy Borderlands". Personally I hated Borderlands, but if you did there's probably an enjoyable game in Fallout 4 for you.
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I don't consider anything from Fallout 4 to be a good addition to the series. It is not that there is nothing "good" about the game but a fresh corpse may have some good organs. It doesn't make the corpse a good body.

I also don't like people saying that it is "enjoyable" as an argument because that is super vague and subjective. It is like they assumed everyone who played it enjoyed it. I barely heard any negative criticism of the game Bioshock 1 but I didn't like it. It had most of the major flaws of Bioshock Infinite (which had ridiculous critical acclaim but at least people challenged it) but to a lesser degree.

I deluded myself to thinking that Skyrim will eventually be good because I didn't think anyone would make a game with this much effort place into it without adding anything that makes the game worth playing. I already knew something was up when I couldn't have a third option for Faendal and Sven.
 
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