Bioshock Infinite

Crni Vuk said:
well something I noticed though, is actually how different "trailers" are from the finished product, or how little they actually have to do with the game sometimes.

Compare some of the earlier trailers, and how much the girl and tone changed between them and the finished game.

Not that I am really complaining, its just interesting.
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Yeah, I noticed that too. I remember there being a scene where Dewitt was talking to these revolutionaries (I think), and he said the wrong thing and they started attacking him. That was interesting; I was looking forward to that sort of interaction.
 
BI went trhough a LOT of trouble during development, that much we know for sure. On top of that initially I think that Elizabeth was supposed to be the origin of the Vigors (how I have no idea, they were taking her blood?), the city was floating on baloons which means no quantum physics involved and everything connected to it and I think I remember that there were supposed to be multiple endings (based on how much you asked for Beth's help maybe?). The 2011 gameplay trailer was much more similar to the released game and still you could see multiple differences. It's no wonder that the released game feels a bit disjointed.

By the way Zero Punctuation which mirrors very closely what I think of the game.
 
Yeah, the game really feels chopped up to me. Like, they were in a hurry and had to shove it out the the door with bits missing.
 
part of the problem is that game companies anounce games like when they are only 10% finished or so.

I know that it is a part of marketing strategy in the hope of starting viral campaigns, buiding up hype and so on. But seriously. Its normal that in such stages a game will see a hell lot of changes, because honestly when you work in some way with creative stuff you tend to get over ambitious, I know that, its the same with my projects in Graphic design. But you will always run one way or another in problems which require to "cut" content, or you will spend to much time working on it and miss your shedules.

Now they start to show more and more trailers from gameplay that is either not in the game or has not even anything to do with the game really (See the trailer for Deus Ex human revolution, and how the characters you see there dont even appear like that in the game).
 
CthuluIsSpy said:
I wish there was a decrease in accuracy then; that would have been a nice touch, and your choices would actually have had some sort of impact.
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Yeah there should have been a slight decrease in accuracy along with a slightly lower chance of being attacked by civilians and police (since they can't see your tattoo because of the bandages).


Edit: Ok yeah the game turns to shit after the Vox Populi take over. I'm about to enter Comstock House I hope things will get better.
 
Courier said:
CthuluIsSpy said:
I wish there was a decrease in accuracy then; that would have been a nice touch, and your choices would actually have had some sort of impact.
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Yeah there should have been a slight decrease in accuracy along with a slightly lower chance of being attacked by civilians and police (since they can't see your tattoo because of the bandages).


Edit: Ok yeah the game turns to shit after the Vox Populi take over. I'm about to enter Comstock House I hope things will get better.
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It gets somewhat interesting, but after that level it gets boring again.
 
The game made sense to me. As far as the whole exploring-quantum-physical-multiple-dimensions goes, it's so far the best execution I've seen of it. I can't remember a single game, book or movie that approached this quite complex matter quite as well as this game did.

The only plothole I found glaring was [spoiler:08fce55b2b]Cornelius Slate not knowing who Comstock really was. I mean, the guy's been with Comstock all along - he was at the Boxer rebellion too, after all - yet still never recognises him being Booker? At the Hall of Heroes, for instance, he keeps on shouting "HE WAS NEVER THERE", while he does clearly remember Booker. I don't think a beard makes someone that unrecognisable.[/spoiler:08fce55b2b]

Also, am I the only one that deduced that [spoiler:08fce55b2b] the Luteces were not actually twins, but the same person? One female from the Comstock reality, one male from the Booker reality. The female Lutece then drags the male one to her reality.[/spoiler:08fce55b2b]
 
Nope, I got that the Luteces were the same as well.

In fact, I think there was a scene early on where you see a statue of the male Lutece becoming the female Lutece.

I'm still not entirely sure why...

Also, how the bloody hell did the Luteces acquire Quantum tech with 19th century technology? Don't you need super computers to do that?
 
Also, concerning Elizabeth pulling health packs etc. "from under her shirt" - it's made pretty damn obvious in-game she's getting them through tears, not looking for them lying around.
 
Stanislao Moulinsky said:
CthuluIsSpy said:
Also, how the bloody hell did the Luteces acquire Quantum tech with 19th century technology? Don't you need super computers to do that?
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What about plasmids and splicing DNA in 1950?
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Well, they did find that special type of slug. It's still silly, but understandable.

Quantum physics, on the other hand...yeah, my suspension of disbelief can only work so much.

Jebus said:
Also, concerning Elizabeth pulling health packs etc. "from under her shirt" - it's made pretty damn obvious in-game she's getting them through tears, not looking for them lying around.
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Yeah, that's pretty obvious. No idea why people don't seem to understand that :/
 
Been playing a few hours and so far I like it much more than both previous Bioshocks. The setting is fantastic.
 
I just realized something...

[spoiler:829bc510f8] Isn't there a paradox involved? Comstocks reality was deleted, but that means that there is now no reason for it to be deleted as Elizabeth was the one to erase it, and she no exists to erase it.

So Elizabeth drowns Booker to erase Comstock from existence, but as no Comstock ever existed Elizabeth can't drown Booker meaning that he becomes Comstock which results in Elizabeth eradicating Comstock's reality which...*head explodes*

Bloody hypertime... [/spoiler:829bc510f8]
 
No, you missed the whole point.

[spoiler:9215860638]All realities in which Booker becomes Comstock (i.e. all realities in which he accepts the baptism) get deleted by Elizabeth(s) drowning him. The only possible remaining realities are now those where he doesn't accept the baptism and doesn't sell Anna, but stays with her. The realities where Rapture exists but not Columbia.[/spoiler:9215860638]
 
[spoiler:e49a29c8d7] I didn't miss the point. I know that all realities with Comstock are erased. However, if all realities with Comstock are erased throughout time, then there could be nothing to trigger their deletion. Remember that the Elizabeth we know is a product of Comstock's timeline. Hence a paradox [/spoiler:e49a29c8d7]
 
btw is there actually a reason this game is even called Bioshock?

So far it's all about quantum physics and has nothing to do with biology. I don't even think the vigors have been explained yet.
 
Yeah but I mean they could have made biology actually relevant to the story.

I mean seriously how are vigors so irrelevant they're like a fucking miracle drug and nobody even mentions them outside some shitty fair early in the game. Barely any of the enemies even use them even though they're lying around fucking everywhere and are clearly safer and easier to obtain than plasmids and ADAM were in Rapture.
 
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