From E3 untill now, Can you honestly tell me what we know of Fallout 4 objectively?

Don't know who marty is but whatever.

The main quest will probably be about trying to find our family (since hey, the SS survived 200 years, why not the wife too) and getting involved with faction shenanigans

the goal of Fallout 4 is whatever the player wants to be, so likely fucking around/exploring Boston and the cool places Bethesda set up for us in a kickass power armor suit like most will do.
 
Askorti said:
So no, there is very little gray area in this plot, it's just not completely back-white, but still pretty obvious when you rub two brain cells together thinking about it.
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Well i would try to explain an empire almost never means an united force(with rainbows and unicorns) and only dominant nation enjoys to have an army which is foremost used to protect it's own interest before any other invaded people. However since you're so sure of yourself with little to no knowledge of history... well knock yourself out.
 
I doubt it will be about finding your family, I don't see the "Looking for Wife" option in the dialogue cross.
 
Fallout4 will be anything the player wants... as long as all the player wants is a hiking simulator, it can't be an RPG, or a Fallout game, but hey, the veryspecific Genre of Hiking Simulation is the limit!.
 
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And you can get PHAT LOOTZ so you can get more PHAT LOOTZ, who needs a heroin addiction when you have Loot Shooters?
 
Fallout 4 gives us enough information to know that SPECIAL has been mutiliated and... that's it! It's in Boston! And you can make stuff! Yay!

If they don't talk about the story I can guess it's going to be shit. Or not worth talking about.
 
And if you want to shape your own character's backstory, you're shit out of luck. Once again, the main character comes from a vault (again with the vault origins), has an established family, and is even from the pre-war era to boot.
 
nothing, except i'd bet my farm on the game being built around the replicated man quest. zimmerman will be a villain. harkness will probably be around somewhere, leading a group of synths. choices choices consequences good vs evil black and white.
 
Theinnerfish said:
Askorti said:
So no, there is very little gray area in this plot, it's just not completely back-white, but still pretty obvious when you rub two brain cells together thinking about it.
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Well i would try to explain an empire almost never means an united force(with rainbows and unicorns) and only dominant nation enjoys to have an army which is foremost used to protect it's own interest before any other invaded people. However since you're so sure of yourself with little to no knowledge of history... well knock yourself out.
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I know history enough to know that small, weakened countries surrounded by enemies often don't enjoy their independence for long. My own country is a good example, so you tell me about knowing history...

Which is better, to be a part of the Empire, who is not openly antagonistic towards you and actually supports you, or let another faction, that wants to enslave your whole race beat you after you secede from the entity that gives you your only shot at actual freedom? Because remember, that banning Talos worship is hardly the Thalmor's endgame. The endgame is to enslave humanity, remember?

No matter how you try to paint it, The Empire, with all its faults is the only way for Skyrim to go. That or Thalmor slavery, because there's no chance that Skyrim alone would win where the whole Empire failed.
 
I never even got what the hell was happening in that civil war quest line, they just talk about the High Elves being evil and behind everything, you even infiltrate their party to see if they have somethign to do with the Dragons coming back to life but then you just complete both quest lineas without those fuckers even having any active role on it. Felt like Half ofthe Civil war quest line was missing.
 
The party at their embassy is part of the main questline, not the civil war one. The civil war questline is basically taking and defending castles and cities around Skyrim with some fluff scattered around like looking for a crown of some old Skyrim High King. And obviously, this being Skyrim, and the quests being mirror images for both sides, both Stormcloaks and Imperials arrive at the exact same time. Talk about coincidences...
 
Askorti said:
The party at their embassy is part of the main questline, not the civil war one. The civil war questline is basically taking and defending castles and cities around Skyrim with some fluff scattered around like looking for a crown of some old Skyrim High King. And obviously, this being Skyrim, and the quests being mirror images for both sides, both Stormcloaks and Imperials arrive at the exact same time. Talk about coincidences...
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Yeah the Civil war was shit. It could have been handled really well and interesting, maybe the main questline would aim at it and you could become a spy, a soldier or a commander doing various interesting missions with good dialogue and choices...
 
The possibilities were pretty much endless. You could come up with any numbers of very interesting and engaging missions, but this is Bethesda, the biggest engagement they can think of is collecting circles of cheese and putting buckets on peoples' heads.
 
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The possibilities were pretty much endless. You could come up with any numbers of very interesting and engaging missions, but this is Bethesda, the biggest engagement they can think of is collecting circles of cheese and putting buckets on peoples' heads.
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Which is sad. Every game Bethesda made could have been more...
 
Which is one of the reasons why mods are pretty much mandatory for this game. I'm a PC player at heart, but it makes me pity the people who play Skyrim on consoles. They don't get even 10% of the experience that the mods give. Of course not even mods can amend the biggest sins of the game, but they change it considerably. With over 100 mods at once this game becomes quite good in some regards.
 
But I often feel that mods have made a part of the playerbase and Bethesda somewhat ... lazy? For the lack of better words. YOu know, why even work at the UI, they don't have to provde PC players with good controlls!? Why critizise Bethesda? Mods will gona fix it! And now the console might even get a chance on that with F4 as well ...

Walpknut said:
I never even got what the hell was happening in that civil war quest line, they just talk about the High Elves being evil and behind everything, you even infiltrate their party to see if they have somethign to do with the Dragons coming back to life but then you just complete both quest lineas without those fuckers even having any active role on it. Felt like Half ofthe Civil war quest line was missing.
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That's probably because half of it IS missing, if you can believe the modders. See civil war restorted, however that thing no matter how much effort he or she was puting in it could not rescue this cluster fuck of a quest line. It's like trying to fix a broken bottle, no matter how much glue and tape you use, it will still always leak somewhere.

I call the civil war of Skyrim a nice idea that was very badly executed. Not only does it NOT feel like a civil war - seriously? 8 people attacking a town of 20 citizens? And you call that a war? Give me a brake Bethestda. I guess an attack of 5 demons also counts as invasion. The civil war also makes not much sense for ANY race except the nords. Playing a dark elf? Screw you! They hate them all. Playing an Argonian/Khajit? Screw you! They are not even allowed really in the city. This really leaves as the only realistic option to play with the Empire. But it could have even worked perfectly, if they really allowed for some creativity here with the story telling, they could have give the player the option to work for example as spy if you played one of the other races, particularly a Khajit, or at least dialog for a mercenary type of character, anything that feels at least believable.
 
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I know enough for me, and thats enough to warrant buying the game. Two copies in fact, one digital and one physical. I certainly wouldn't entertain the idea that I could tell someone else to buy it without seeing it, unless like me they have enjoyed Skyrim and Fallout 3. If they tell me they are big fans of Fallout and Fallout 2, but not so much Fallout 3, then I might suggest they wait until the game comes out and read the reviews. I might even let them come over and try the game first so they know exactly what they are getting.
 
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