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How much do any of you write by hand from day to day?

I grew up hand-writing everything, but in my early adulthood I quickly lost most reasons to hand-write, as everything of relevance became typed. I'll sign my name places, and whenever hand-writing for other purposes, I'll opt for a... recently-adopted all-caps script, just to avoid any problem (my natural hand-writing growing up was less than ideal)

Now, gf works in a restaurant, shes going through regulars and their names + phone numbers. She doesn't speak fluent Norwegian, so she hands me these notes where the customers have written their own names down, for me to interpret - and it's fucking impossible half the time. These are mostly Gen Z, and their hand-writing is atrocious almost without exception! The top of the note will say "Capital letters please" and so far *everyone* ignores this, and rambles their name down in incomprehensible letters -

these aren't "stylistic", like fashionable signatures or anything, but they really look like illiterate people trying their best to make sense of a pen. The lines are uneven, the letters look amateurish, like small children struggling, and in most cases - both the names AND the phone numbers are only partially deciphrable. Several of them show several typos (hand-typos!) with marks of having had to re-start their names.

I'm left with the singular impression that people born after a certain period, at least here - no longer know how to write by hand. They have no muscle-memory associated with writing their names or phone numbers, and will struggle reproducing even letters or numbers properly, including typoing up their own names regularily :I
 
I lilke writing by hand, so I do a lot of notes and memos at work by hand. My handwriting is weird, though, so even when I write non-cursive and all capitals it's still odd.
 
zegh8578 said:
I'm left with the singular impression that people born after a certain period, at least here - no longer know how to write by hand. They have no muscle-memory associated with writing their names or phone numbers, and will struggle reproducing even letters or numbers properly, including typoing up their own names regularily :I
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Border between Millenial and Gen Z here. Dang, I feel called out by this post, this explains me perfectly lmao.
 
Firmly Gen Z here (99) and barring writing notes in tabletop sessions I have to write by hand very little. End of my first year in uni (Summer 2019) was probably the last time in an official capacity as I had to write paper examinations, which fucking sucked because handwriting speed can never compare to typing and my hand was completely cramped by the end of writing the essay. The essay of course was a fraction of the length of what I could have written in the same time on a computer. Thankfully with COVID my entire education has moved online so all examinations are computer based.

I also have what I think might be a Gen Z "issue" of not knowing my phone number off by heart. I used to know my home phone when I was a kid but since I got a mobile at 16 I've literally never needed to remember it because nobody except official outlets contacts me via phone number (and having changed number a few times). Anyone in my social life contacts me via social media instead, and I have literally never recieved a phone call or a text message from a friend using my number. When I met my current girlfriend, we exchanged social media and not our numbers.
 
Atomic Postman said:
I also have what I think might be a Gen Z "issue" of not knowing my phone number off by heart.
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Interesting detail. I've had the same mobile phone number forever, never changed it. Always made that point when changing phones, to keep the sim (which I kept untill the physical card was no longer compatible with new phones) and then insisting to keep my number. So - my phone number is deeply imbedded in muscle memory, as well as phone-number-rythm (ill struggle to remember it if I have to translate, or read it in a different rythm)

My home address is a different matter, and just now, my dentist asked me to update it, and I had to tell him I simply do not know where the hell I live - and rather come back to him the next time with my address noted down. I've moved so many times, and whenever I have to pay bills etc, it's usually an automatic, after having filled my address into various digital services the first few days after moving in. From that point on, I really don't need to know my own address. Whenever I need it, I'll check some recent envelope, which sort of serves to enable myself to keep forgetting it.
 
zegh8578 said:
Interesting detail. I've had the same mobile phone number forever, never changed it. Always made that point when changing phones, to keep the sim (which I kept untill the physical card was no longer compatible with new phones) and then insisting to keep my number. So - my phone number is deeply imbedded in muscle memory, as well as phone-number-rythm (ill struggle to remember it if I have to translate, or read it in a different rythm)

My home address is a different matter, and just now, my dentist asked me to update it, and I had to tell him I simply do not know where the hell I live - and rather come back to him the next time with my address noted down. I've moved so many times, and whenever I have to pay bills etc, it's usually an automatic, after having filled my address into various digital services the first few days after moving in. From that point on, I really don't need to know my own address. Whenever I need it, I'll check some recent envelope, which sort of serves to enable myself to keep forgetting it.
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I hop between the US and the UK a lot (well, not recently) so SIM cards have been historically a bit messy.

and weirdly I'm the same muscle-memory way with addresses, I can basically call to mind everywhere I've lived down to the postal card pretty unflinchingly. Weird what the brain makes a priority.
 
zegh8578 said:
How much do any of you write by hand from day to day?

I grew up hand-writing everything, but in my early adulthood I quickly lost most reasons to hand-write, as everything of relevance became typed. I'll sign my name places, and whenever hand-writing for other purposes, I'll opt for a... recently-adopted all-caps script, just to avoid any problem (my natural hand-writing growing up was less than ideal)

Now, gf works in a restaurant, shes going through regulars and their names + phone numbers. She doesn't speak fluent Norwegian, so she hands me these notes where the customers have written their own names down, for me to interpret - and it's fucking impossible half the time. These are mostly Gen Z, and their hand-writing is atrocious almost without exception! The top of the note will say "Capital letters please" and so far *everyone* ignores this, and rambles their name down in incomprehensible letters -

these aren't "stylistic", like fashionable signatures or anything, but they really look like illiterate people trying their best to make sense of a pen. The lines are uneven, the letters look amateurish, like small children struggling, and in most cases - both the names AND the phone numbers are only partially deciphrable. Several of them show several typos (hand-typos!) with marks of having had to re-start their names.

I'm left with the singular impression that people born after a certain period, at least here - no longer know how to write by hand. They have no muscle-memory associated with writing their names or phone numbers, and will struggle reproducing even letters or numbers properly, including typoing up their own names regularily :I
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Yeah I almost never write by hand if I don't have to. My handwriting was always pretty bad. I have the muscle memory to do it but that muscle memory is shit handwriting because I have chicken scratch handwriting. The last time I wrote by hand extensively was an American History class in college where the professor had 3 grades for us. Attendance, midterm exam, final exam. And those two exams were literally questions of answering what he said in class and the classes were like 2.5 hours long. I wrote every word he said and by the end I had essentially hand written a book. I had to go back through after each class and write over where I was going too fast to make the letters more neat.
 
My handwriting has always been shit, so I decided to learn old german script/Sütterlin for fun so now it's worse.
 
Hassknecht said:
My handwriting has always been shit, so I decided to learn old german script/Sütterlin for fun so now it's worse.
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I've long since landed on a kind of Calvin & Hobbes-esque kid-script, with large and clear letters, each neatly separate. This is purely practical, and to avoid any misinterpretation in regards to whatever document I'm writing on.

In contrast - sometimes I make notes to myself, for example, if I do dino research for an illustration I'm working on, or something like that, I'll make lots and lots of notes. These notes are atrocious. Atrocious! I go straight for the doctors-short-hand. Sometimes I'll stare at notes, in just sheer frustration, like - how did I even expect myself to be able to read this shit when I wrote it down an hour prior? Like wow, me-an-hour-ago was an inconsiderate and arrogant jackass...
 
I loathe cold syrup, it's a thick substance that ruins a delicious plate of waffles and/or pancakes. No, for me it's either room temperature-to-lukewarm syrup for these entrees. Add in some sausage or bacon and pair it with a cool glass of milk or a nice cup of coffee. Not every day mind you, this dessert (often substituted for breakfast) should be a rare treat.
 
It depends, if I desire an intricate desert I chose the waffle so it can be comfortably topped with berries and cream then maybe syrup. You must respect the simplicity of the pancake however, stacked on one another they can be a hearty desert. My grandfather, 'papa' I affectionately referred to him would often have a breakfast of a stack of pancakes with a serving of eggs atop it, the eggs serving as a topping itself, an egg-topped pancake if you will with no syrup whatsoever. Unfortunately I never tried this combination (served up by my Grandmother, a fantastic cook) as I was far to childish to even consider the deliciousness of pancakes with the heartiness of the eggs atop them would serve as a wonderful combination (a rather picky child I was, and still am to this day in some cases unfortunately). To this day I have yet to try this dish and it is one of many regrets.
 
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