Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Anyone knows how to burn a bridge (the metaphorical kind) without making too much drama? I had enough with the antics of a certain person but I seriously am not in the mood to get into a fight over it.
Nothing has changed except for when other states decided to stop sharing their water with us. The weather's always been the same. The drought's never been worsening. Lastly we're all doing just as well now as we were 25 years ago. Nothing is different. News just makes it sound like things are worse off than they really are.Anyone concerned/affected by the drought going on in the western United States? It's pretty bad, and it doesn't look like it's getting better. Maybe lake Mead will dry up and the NCR will pull out of Hoover Dam. I don't really know why I'm so attached to the drought, it's strange.
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It is pretty bad. California is screwed, even where I am in Oklahoma it has been real dry the past few years. All the crops burn up pretty easy. Not much we can do about it at this point.
Nothing has changed except for when other states decided to stop sharing their water with us. The weather's always been the same. The drought's never been worsening. Lastly we're all doing just as well now as we were 25 years ago. Nothing is different. News just makes it sound like things are worse off than they really are.Anyone concerned/affected by the drought going on in the western United States? It's pretty bad, and it doesn't look like it's getting better. Maybe lake Mead will dry up and the NCR will pull out of Hoover Dam. I don't really know why I'm so attached to the drought, it's strange.
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It is pretty bad. California is screwed, even where I am in Oklahoma it has been real dry the past few years. All the crops burn up pretty easy. Not much we can do about it at this point.
Anyone knows how to burn a bridge (the metaphorical kind) without making too much drama? I had enough with the antics of a certain person but I seriously am not in the mood to get into a fight over it.
Anyone knows how to burn a bridge (the metaphorical kind) without making too much drama? I had enough with the antics of a certain person but I seriously am not in the mood to get into a fight over it.
No, it's not bullshit. The popular interpretation of it is the bullshit. It's all politics, and politics knows only one thing: how to spend money. If you extrapolate that to infrastructure and economics, that means "government can only be wasteful". Enterprise and markets grow and groom themselves, and governments only know how to siphon/leech off of that and their own constituents. What the state does and has done is exactly what I've said: politics. If what's going on is exactly as I described, then what I've said is not bullshit then, is it?Sorry but this sounds like bullshit to me. [...] I'm sure the news is making it out to sound like the worst thing ever, but it is an issue to be addressed. I've seen a lot of farmers having a hard time, so forgive me if I don't take the word of a bunch of city folk who spend excessive amounts of water on their lawn while their agriculture industry is going down the tubes. [...] If California hadn't taken upon themselves to enact several damaging programs that further worsened their water situation, then they might not be in such a dire spot. They could be putting more money into desalination plants for one.
Because it wouldn't be "sharing", it would be import/export. It would be an exchange. Money for resources. That's how the world runs: enterprise.Why should other states share water when California wastes it?
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I've seen a lot of farmers having a hard time, so forgive me if I don't take the word of a bunch of city folk who spend excessive amounts of water on their lawn while their agriculture industry is going down the tubes. Why should other states share water when California wastes it? These other states aren't rolling in water you know. If California hadn't taken upon themselves to enact several damaging programs that further worsened their water situation, then they might not be in such a dire spot. They could be putting more money into desalination plants for one.
What about an entire front yard composed of stones? =DI spent the first 17 years of my life in California and almost all of it in a sub-urban part of Northern Los Angeles. Everyone had a lawn even if it meant using countless gallons of water throughout the dry half of the year. I secretly envied and applauded whoever cared for the one household at the end of my street that had a yard entirely composed of native plants. Not only did it require no water, but it was beautiful to see with so many different plants in such a small area without them over-growing each other.
Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
Rather than consider the question, I'm just gonna enjoy the cat. Sorry.So what does NMA think of my cat?
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His name is Indy, he's 5 or so years old. We have another cat named Spock, but I can't find a picture of him (he's black)
Both of them are indoor cats, but to keep them entertained while inside we usually open up a window that has a screen mesh so they can look out. Of course, the pretty rough winter we had here has meant low temperatures and a lot of snow, so they haven't gotten the chance to have the window open, and that has lead to a lot of meowing on their part because all they really are living for at this point in time is when it's time to eat.
Would you give up your human existence to be a house cat? I'd consider it. After all, everything is provided for you and your only real "responsibility" is to provide unconditional love to your owner. Then again, having a brain the size of a walnut is certainly a downgrade.
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We have another cat named Spock
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We basically agree on this issue so I won't further elaborate beyond the fact that California has gotten themselves in this mess in the first place. Other states nearby aren't in too good a shape as far as drought conditions go, so I'm not sure they can spare much water, especially with the wastefulness that California typically displays. I understand exchange of resources, but I also understand that California has increasingly tried to get more water from surrounding states all while wasting their own reserves. Only when it is too late do they act like they care. It is politically charged which is a shame because a lot of families are being let down due to negligence on the part of the California government.
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We basically agree on this issue so I won't further elaborate beyond the fact that California has gotten themselves in this mess in the first place. Other states nearby aren't in too good a shape as far as drought conditions go, so I'm not sure they can spare much water, especially with the wastefulness that California typically displays. I understand exchange of resources, but I also understand that California has increasingly tried to get more water from surrounding states all while wasting their own reserves. Only when it is too late do they act like they care. It is politically charged which is a shame because a lot of families are being let down due to negligence on the part of the California government.
California's probably got more environmentalists and conservationists per capita than any other state in the union and it's drilled into us from grade school on to waste as little as you can. We (technically they, but I'll always think of it as home) just also happen to have been burdened with a bunch of assholes who think their pools, lawns, and golf courses are more important than my family's drinking water, and the region tends to go through natural cycles of extreme dryness and forest fires (which require yet more water) on a semi-regular basis besides. Can't do much to keep the reserves full when you've got one of the largest populations in the union to keep hydrated and the entire region for a couple thousand miles around is recording all-time record low rainfalls.
They probably should've started rationing awhile ago, but that sort of thing leads to panic and unrest. It's a tough line to walk. The problem of drought in overpopulated areas is a headscratcher that's brought down some of the most promising proto-empires in the history of the western hemisphere, and I imagine that, measure for measure, they were probably more capable and environment-savvy then Los Angelinos as a whole.
I can't help but note, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, that real estate prices still aren't coming down out there. Home, sweet home
I concur. Really, REALLY concur.snip
We basically agree on this issue so I won't further elaborate beyond the fact that California has gotten themselves in this mess in the first place. Other states nearby aren't in too good a shape as far as drought conditions go, so I'm not sure they can spare much water, especially with the wastefulness that California typically displays. I understand exchange of resources, but I also understand that California has increasingly tried to get more water from surrounding states all while wasting their own reserves. Only when it is too late do they act like they care. It is politically charged which is a shame because a lot of families are being let down due to negligence on the part of the California government.
California's probably got more environmentalists and conservationists per capita than any other state in the union and it's drilled into us from grade school on to waste as little as you can. We (technically they, but I'll always think of it as home) just also happen to have been burdened with a bunch of assholes who think their pools, lawns, and golf courses are more important than my family's drinking water, and the region tends to go through natural cycles of extreme dryness and forest fires (which require yet more water) on a semi-regular basis besides. Can't do much to keep the reserves full when you've got one of the largest populations in the union to keep hydrated and the entire region for a couple thousand miles around is recording all-time record low rainfalls.
They probably should've started rationing awhile ago, but that sort of thing leads to panic and unrest. It's a tough line to walk. The problem of drought in overpopulated areas is a headscratcher that's brought down some of the most promising proto-empires in the history of the western hemisphere, and I imagine that, measure for measure, they were probably more capable and environment-savvy then Los Angelinos as a whole.
I can't help but note, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, that real estate prices still aren't coming down out there. Home, sweet home
I wish I could upvote this more.