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Anyone knows how to burn a bridge (the metaphorical kind) without making too much drama? I had enough with the antics of a certain person but I seriously am not in the mood to get into a fight over it.
 
It all depends. How close are you? How often do you see each other/talk with each other?
The common way is to act like an ass to that person so they will cut off the ties themselves, but that not always works. If you don't see each other very often, you could just cut off all the contact with them - no facebook, no emails, no calling etc. Most people will take the hint, but it may take some time and they'll probably be upset.
 
Anyone concerned/affected by the drought going on in the western United States? It's pretty bad, and it doesn't look like it's getting better. Maybe lake Mead will dry up and the NCR will pull out of Hoover Dam. I don't really know why I'm so attached to the drought, it's strange.

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It is pretty bad. California is screwed, even where I am in Oklahoma it has been real dry the past few years. All the crops burn up pretty easy. Not much we can do about it at this point.
Nothing has changed except for when other states decided to stop sharing their water with us. The weather's always been the same. The drought's never been worsening. Lastly we're all doing just as well now as we were 25 years ago. Nothing is different. News just makes it sound like things are worse off than they really are.

That said, it IS fucking unnecessarily hot right now. But, take that statement with a grain of salt... and when I say grain, I mean a truckload, because I HATE warm weather. I mean, like you wouldn't believe. I'm bitching about periodic warmth to a buddy in New York and he's bitching about how he's shivering over there. I would HAPPILY take his below-zero temperatures in exchange for mine. When I was visiting Europe during the middle of winter a few years back and the streets where I was were frozen over, I was wandering around with just pants and a t-shirt because I SERIOUSLY love cold weather! The funny thing is, EVERYONE I traveled there with got sick... except for me. I was the only one going out and about to see any sights, while the rest of them were shut in fostering their colds.

So take it from me, a hater of any weather above frigid: we're fine here in California. I'd like it to be colder, but we're in no emergency situation at all. Would be nice if other states would stop being prissy little bitches and return to exchanging their water with us, though. But that's like saying it would be nice to build more nuclear reactors so our energy bills wouldn't be so astronomically high, or saying it would be nice to do away with the monopolization of internet service providers so internet speeds would be faster over here and the prices would be lower. That is to say, yes, it would be nice, and it would make a whole helluva lotta sense to do so. But the sorry situation is politics and stupidity gets in the way, so those things are all sadly not very likely to happen.
 
Anyone concerned/affected by the drought going on in the western United States? It's pretty bad, and it doesn't look like it's getting better. Maybe lake Mead will dry up and the NCR will pull out of Hoover Dam. I don't really know why I'm so attached to the drought, it's strange.

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It is pretty bad. California is screwed, even where I am in Oklahoma it has been real dry the past few years. All the crops burn up pretty easy. Not much we can do about it at this point.
Nothing has changed except for when other states decided to stop sharing their water with us. The weather's always been the same. The drought's never been worsening. Lastly we're all doing just as well now as we were 25 years ago. Nothing is different. News just makes it sound like things are worse off than they really are.

Sorry but this sounds like bullshit to me. There is a years worth of water underneath California right now, farmers are dealing with outrageous water prices, withering crops, and little to no help from the government. From what I gather, it might not look like a problem to some areas, but others are being hit fairly hard. I'm sure the news is making it out to sound like the worst thing ever, but it is an issue to be addressed. I've seen a lot of farmers having a hard time, so forgive me if I don't take the word of a bunch of city folk who spend excessive amounts of water on their lawn while their agriculture industry is going down the tubes. Why should other states share water when California wastes it? These other states aren't rolling in water you know. If California hadn't taken upon themselves to enact several damaging programs that further worsened their water situation, then they might not be in such a dire spot. They could be putting more money into desalination plants for one.


Note: I've been reading a lot on this. The great plains areas aren't doing that hot either, but nowhere near how bad California is.
 
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Anyone knows how to burn a bridge (the metaphorical kind) without making too much drama? I had enough with the antics of a certain person but I seriously am not in the mood to get into a fight over it.

Just remove them from your life, like surgically removing a tumor.

Eradicate all traces of them, stuff like phone numbers, facebook etc.

Then just don't talk to them, if it's possible.

It may seem a tad childish to play the "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU GAME" but it's quite effective at removing people from your life.

If they're a persistent problem, like an annoying acquaintance that wants you to be their friend, just be as uninteresting and boring as possible while you're around them.
 
Anyone knows how to burn a bridge (the metaphorical kind) without making too much drama? I had enough with the antics of a certain person but I seriously am not in the mood to get into a fight over it.

It's as easy as this:

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It depends. You might receive a punch to the face to the person you flipped off. However, the gif made my day.
 
Do not talk to them anymore, block them in social media if this person is there, just don't see or talk to them anymore, that's all what burning bridges is really, cutting all ties to them. Half my family did this with the other half.

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So what does NMA think of my cat?

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His name is Indy, he's 5 or so years old. We have another cat named Spock, but I can't find a picture of him (he's black)

Both of them are indoor cats, but to keep them entertained while inside we usually open up a window that has a screen mesh so they can look out. Of course, the pretty rough winter we had here has meant low temperatures and a lot of snow, so they haven't gotten the chance to have the window open, and that has lead to a lot of meowing on their part because all they really are living for at this point in time is when it's time to eat.

Would you give up your human existence to be a house cat? I'd consider it. After all, everything is provided for you and your only real "responsibility" is to provide unconditional love to your owner. Then again, having a brain the size of a walnut is certainly a downgrade.
 
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Man, human's instinct to mistake lust for complex feelings can go fornicate itself with a rolling pin covered in nails.

End of the message.
 
Sorry but this sounds like bullshit to me. [...] I'm sure the news is making it out to sound like the worst thing ever, but it is an issue to be addressed. I've seen a lot of farmers having a hard time, so forgive me if I don't take the word of a bunch of city folk who spend excessive amounts of water on their lawn while their agriculture industry is going down the tubes. [...] If California hadn't taken upon themselves to enact several damaging programs that further worsened their water situation, then they might not be in such a dire spot. They could be putting more money into desalination plants for one.
No, it's not bullshit. The popular interpretation of it is the bullshit. It's all politics, and politics knows only one thing: how to spend money. If you extrapolate that to infrastructure and economics, that means "government can only be wasteful". Enterprise and markets grow and groom themselves, and governments only know how to siphon/leech off of that and their own constituents. What the state does and has done is exactly what I've said: politics. If what's going on is exactly as I described, then what I've said is not bullshit then, is it?

The problem wasn't because of some kind of emergency that cannot be helped, but one of our own creating, and needlessly worrying about something we've created and thusly have the capacity to not only solve but COMPLETELY undo is pointless. This is why I brought up the examples of energy "crisis" and internet service inferiority, because all 3 are the direct result of government tampering in matters only to make problems rather than allow for solutions to be found. In short, solve a problem, don't just stare at it and worry about it. Policies made things bad, okay. Well policies are what it takes to deal with it (sadly). This is not something that cannot be addressed.

Why should other states share water when California wastes it?
Because it wouldn't be "sharing", it would be import/export. It would be an exchange. Money for resources. That's how the world runs: enterprise.

What makes the situation sound so dismal is people looking at it from the isolated perspective of "This is where all our resources are located and there's no compensating for that!" Bullshit. Of course there is! 25 years ago we got a cut from neighboring water sources, then they got cut off from us because of politics. The native water supply was no different back then, and we were in "drought" period then just as we are now. But trade made that easily bearable. Suddenly (not so suddenly... it's been over 20 years) it seems like a problem because the exchange of resources was stymied for bullshit reasons. It's the same problem permeating MANY "issues" that are not actual issues at all. Namely, we have the means and resources to make it them non-issues, but policies and agendas are either making it seem not to be the case, or are actively creating an issue where any reasonable recourse would prevent any.

Again, it's not wastefulness, it's exchange. We're a ridiculously wealthy state compared to the rest of the union, and you're upset at the prospect of us "sharing" that wealth in exchange for our neighbors "sharing" their resources? That's cyclical logic; fearing the situation that fear self-perpetuates.
 
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I've seen a lot of farmers having a hard time, so forgive me if I don't take the word of a bunch of city folk who spend excessive amounts of water on their lawn while their agriculture industry is going down the tubes. Why should other states share water when California wastes it? These other states aren't rolling in water you know. If California hadn't taken upon themselves to enact several damaging programs that further worsened their water situation, then they might not be in such a dire spot. They could be putting more money into desalination plants for one.

I spent the first 17 years of my life in California and almost all of it in a sub-urban part of Northern Los Angeles. Everyone had a lawn even if it meant using countless gallons of water throughout the dry half of the year. I secretly envied and applauded whoever cared for the one household at the end of my street that had a yard entirely composed of native plants. Not only did it require no water, but it was beautiful to see with so many different plants in such a small area without them over-growing each other.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
I spent the first 17 years of my life in California and almost all of it in a sub-urban part of Northern Los Angeles. Everyone had a lawn even if it meant using countless gallons of water throughout the dry half of the year. I secretly envied and applauded whoever cared for the one household at the end of my street that had a yard entirely composed of native plants. Not only did it require no water, but it was beautiful to see with so many different plants in such a small area without them over-growing each other.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
What about an entire front yard composed of stones? =D

While I was delivering packages seasonally, I saw a rare few homes that maximized their resources by removing any plant life in their yards entirely, and with very stylish, opulent results! I always enjoyed delivering to those houses, because they were so different. When it was late and dark, I had no fear of possibly tripping over a hole or root in a hard-to-see patch of grass, because there was no grass, no repeating pattern of actually uneven plant life to fool me into a false sense of security and lead me to injure myself. Can't say the same about those grass lawns, though. I tripped and bruised myself more times that I can recall. And they were also usually somewhat unkempt, too. I mean, grass IS a weed... it likes to grow if it can. It can be a real unruly bastard if you don't maintain it.

What gets my goat is the neighborhood associations MANDATING lawns of certain types and dimensions. Awesome houses like the ones I enjoyed wouldn't be permissible, because the fucking association requires their yard to contain x breed of grass, y inches tall, minimal browning. Really irritating...

So what does NMA think of my cat?

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His name is Indy, he's 5 or so years old. We have another cat named Spock, but I can't find a picture of him (he's black)

Both of them are indoor cats, but to keep them entertained while inside we usually open up a window that has a screen mesh so they can look out. Of course, the pretty rough winter we had here has meant low temperatures and a lot of snow, so they haven't gotten the chance to have the window open, and that has lead to a lot of meowing on their part because all they really are living for at this point in time is when it's time to eat.

Would you give up your human existence to be a house cat? I'd consider it. After all, everything is provided for you and your only real "responsibility" is to provide unconditional love to your owner. Then again, having a brain the size of a walnut is certainly a downgrade.
Rather than consider the question, I'm just gonna enjoy the cat. Sorry.

But I do like cats. Not in the silly internet sort of way, because I really am a cat person at heart. I love dogs, but I prefer cats. All of my cats in my life have been indoor/outdoor cats, though to varying different degrees, for each. One got lost, one was the alpha male of the entire neighborhood, one hunts regularly, and one just likes to wander a bit but never EVER hunts. My most recent cats enjoy the outdoors simply for the territory they get to travel, but they still come back to relieve themselves. My first cat (that I remember, that is, as I was too young to recall the cat that got lost) was completely self-sufficient. He owned the neighborhood territory, and regularly fought off other cats to retain his claim. He only did his business outdoors and he always buried it discretely, so finding his droppings was an incredibly rare occurrence. If ever he was locked out of the house for too long, he could hunt down prey to satisfy his needs (which happened on occasion) but he usually was always on time for breakfast every day indoors. But for all his badass bossness, he was a sweetheart to his family. He loved to cuddle and he didn't mind being held and I always enjoyed falling asleep with (or waking up to find) him curled in an adorable ball right beside my pillow, purring away. Even when he got old and decrepit, he was still a badass, knocking around this younger, spry cat for showing him defiance. I still miss him to this day. I loved that cat.

I could never imagine having an exclusively indoor cat. I've never had one, and even when I have to make sure I'm not letting their cats "escape" when I come and go visiting my friends/family, the idea that their cats are indoor-only was always strange to me. We love our cats, and they love us back, so they always come back.
 

We basically agree on this issue so I won't further elaborate beyond the fact that California has gotten themselves in this mess in the first place. Other states nearby aren't in too good a shape as far as drought conditions go, so I'm not sure they can spare much water, especially with the wastefulness that California typically displays. I understand exchange of resources, but I also understand that California has increasingly tried to get more water from surrounding states all while wasting their own reserves. Only when it is too late do they act like they care. It is politically charged which is a shame because a lot of families are being let down due to negligence on the part of the California government.
 
But I really don't see it happening, and I LIVE here! Bear in mind, I wouldn't call my perspective that of a "city [person]", either. I mean, yes, I live in an urban environment, and the borders from one city to the next are nothing more than sign posts designating the boundary rather than miles of wilderness connected by lonely roads. But from a Californian perspective, I live in a relatively "outer" area. Not suburban, but nowhere near like the "inner city" locales in the neighboring L.A. County. Anywho, I don't see the wastefulness. I just see stupidity. MOST people here are worse worrywarts about the drought than those outside the state; I'm a minority exception to that rule. It's in the news regularly, it's brought up EVERY summer, yadda yadda. People here are MORE than aware of it, and they're very "conscious" about it. It's what bothers me so much about it being blown out of proportion and being looked to for "solutions" from the completely wrong angle... because it's NOT ignored at all by people here. It's basically a stateside scaled down version of the global warming hysteria just for us. Yippee! Ugh...

The important thing to take away from all this is that my late cat Smokey WAS the best cat ever. I wish I had a scanner (cause he was alive from 1987-2005, before digital cameras as commonplace were a thing, so all my photos of him are physical) but alas I cannot share photos of him. But he really was an amazing cat. I'll always miss him.
 

We basically agree on this issue so I won't further elaborate beyond the fact that California has gotten themselves in this mess in the first place. Other states nearby aren't in too good a shape as far as drought conditions go, so I'm not sure they can spare much water, especially with the wastefulness that California typically displays. I understand exchange of resources, but I also understand that California has increasingly tried to get more water from surrounding states all while wasting their own reserves. Only when it is too late do they act like they care. It is politically charged which is a shame because a lot of families are being let down due to negligence on the part of the California government.

California's probably got more environmentalists and conservationists per capita than any other state in the union and it's drilled into us from grade school on to waste as little as you can. We (technically they, but I'll always think of it as home) just also happen to have been burdened with a bunch of assholes who think their pools, lawns, and golf courses are more important than my family's drinking water, and the region tends to go through natural cycles of extreme dryness and forest fires (which require yet more water) on a semi-regular basis besides. Can't do much to keep the reserves full when you've got one of the largest populations in the union to keep hydrated and the entire region for a couple thousand miles around is recording all-time record low rainfalls.

They probably should've started rationing awhile ago, but that sort of thing leads to panic and unrest. It's a tough line to walk. The problem of drought in overpopulated areas is a headscratcher that's brought down some of the most promising proto-empires in the history of the western hemisphere, and I imagine that, measure for measure, they were probably more capable and environment-savvy then Los Angelinos as a whole.

I can't help but note, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, that real estate prices still aren't coming down out there. Home, sweet home :roll:
 
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We basically agree on this issue so I won't further elaborate beyond the fact that California has gotten themselves in this mess in the first place. Other states nearby aren't in too good a shape as far as drought conditions go, so I'm not sure they can spare much water, especially with the wastefulness that California typically displays. I understand exchange of resources, but I also understand that California has increasingly tried to get more water from surrounding states all while wasting their own reserves. Only when it is too late do they act like they care. It is politically charged which is a shame because a lot of families are being let down due to negligence on the part of the California government.

California's probably got more environmentalists and conservationists per capita than any other state in the union and it's drilled into us from grade school on to waste as little as you can. We (technically they, but I'll always think of it as home) just also happen to have been burdened with a bunch of assholes who think their pools, lawns, and golf courses are more important than my family's drinking water, and the region tends to go through natural cycles of extreme dryness and forest fires (which require yet more water) on a semi-regular basis besides. Can't do much to keep the reserves full when you've got one of the largest populations in the union to keep hydrated and the entire region for a couple thousand miles around is recording all-time record low rainfalls.

They probably should've started rationing awhile ago, but that sort of thing leads to panic and unrest. It's a tough line to walk. The problem of drought in overpopulated areas is a headscratcher that's brought down some of the most promising proto-empires in the history of the western hemisphere, and I imagine that, measure for measure, they were probably more capable and environment-savvy then Los Angelinos as a whole.

I can't help but note, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, that real estate prices still aren't coming down out there. Home, sweet home :roll:

I wish I could upvote this more.
 

We basically agree on this issue so I won't further elaborate beyond the fact that California has gotten themselves in this mess in the first place. Other states nearby aren't in too good a shape as far as drought conditions go, so I'm not sure they can spare much water, especially with the wastefulness that California typically displays. I understand exchange of resources, but I also understand that California has increasingly tried to get more water from surrounding states all while wasting their own reserves. Only when it is too late do they act like they care. It is politically charged which is a shame because a lot of families are being let down due to negligence on the part of the California government.

California's probably got more environmentalists and conservationists per capita than any other state in the union and it's drilled into us from grade school on to waste as little as you can. We (technically they, but I'll always think of it as home) just also happen to have been burdened with a bunch of assholes who think their pools, lawns, and golf courses are more important than my family's drinking water, and the region tends to go through natural cycles of extreme dryness and forest fires (which require yet more water) on a semi-regular basis besides. Can't do much to keep the reserves full when you've got one of the largest populations in the union to keep hydrated and the entire region for a couple thousand miles around is recording all-time record low rainfalls.

They probably should've started rationing awhile ago, but that sort of thing leads to panic and unrest. It's a tough line to walk. The problem of drought in overpopulated areas is a headscratcher that's brought down some of the most promising proto-empires in the history of the western hemisphere, and I imagine that, measure for measure, they were probably more capable and environment-savvy then Los Angelinos as a whole.

I can't help but note, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, that real estate prices still aren't coming down out there. Home, sweet home :roll:

I wish I could upvote this more.
I concur. Really, REALLY concur.

With a notable exception... That misuse of "then" instead of "than" at that second to last part... that's irksome. ALSO planting one's tongue in one's cheek when commenting on real estate prices (cause it's very sensible, really).

Both other than that, MUCH YES!!! =D

Excuse me while I follow this up with a gleeful PM crying in Yamu's lap, happy to see him back like the loyal dog that I am.
 
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