In the future, will Bethesda be capable to...

Someguy37 "muh brahmin" arguments doesn't make fucking sense. Yes people can survive by herding animals, but how the fuck they're supposed to feed their animal in the first place without crops? Oh you can't tell me "they graze the herd" because there aren't any grazing field in Wasteland DC. There are reasons why crops raising and animal husbandry appeared almost at the same time together.
 
They are more than capable, it's just not their goal. And at achieving their goal (mass market "Rpg" game), at that they excel at. So Bethesda is a great studio at doing what they do, unfortunately what they do isn't what us Fallout fans want (even ones who enjoy Fallout 4 do so acknowledging /accepting the fact it's not Fallout).

I'm fine ignoring their other RPGs, I couldn't care less, I know they are not for me. But it hurts me to know there is a new Fallout game that is not made for me.

But anyway, Bethesda gonna Bethesda. It's crushingly disappointing but no hate.
 
And that ghoul has cut dialogue that suggests he's a New Canaanite and so was Nephi before he became an addict and fell in with the Fiends.

Yup and there's still a bit of leftover dialogue from that cut content, which you can find by talking to Bert after taking out Nephi. He says he heard Nephi died and hopes his soul finally found peace.

Confused the hell out of me the first time I heard it, until I remembered Bert said he was from Utah and figured out the Nephi reference.

Bubba is right, but I didn't need the quest. I stumbled inside, saw the Fiends and almost freaked out but they talked to me and asked my business. With my speech so high I got in!

It is nice that there are multiple options to finagle, infiltrate, or talk your way into certain areas. Way things are going now, if Vault 3 were in Fallout 4 the door would likely be inaccessible until you've reached a certain point in a quest.

Evolution of roleplaying my ass.

It's amazing how much more this game could have been if they had the time.

Oh definitely, especially Freeside which would have included roaming pickpockets, an entire quest centered around Rotface, and a funny little expository bit regarding that dude Jean-Baptiste incinerated inside the Silver Rush.

There are mods on the Nexus that readds all that cut content back into the game that you posted about: http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46648/? http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46355/?

Modders, sometimes I love you and sometimes I get frustrated with you but I mostly love you! :dance:
 
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And that ghoul has cut dialogue that suggests he's a New Canaanite and so was Nephi before he became an addict and fell in with the Fiends.

Yup and there's still a bit of leftover dialogue from that cut content, which you can find by talking to Bert after taking out Nephi. He says he heard Nephi died and hopes his soul finally found peace.

Confused the hell out of me the first time I heard it, until I remembered Bert said he was from Utah and figured out the Nephi reference.

Bubba is right, but I didn't need the quest. I stumbled inside, saw the Fiends and almost freaked out but they talked to me and asked my business. With my speech so high I got in!

It is nice that there are multiple options to finagle, infiltrate, or talk your way into certain areas. Way things are going now, if Vault 3 were in Fallout 4 the door would likely be inaccessible until you've reached a certain point in a quest.

Evolution of roleplaying my ass.

It's amazing how much more this game could have been if they had the time.

Oh definitely, especially Freeside which would have included roaming pickpockets, an entire quest centered around Rotface, and a funny little expository bit regarding that dude Jean-Baptiste incinerated inside the Silver Rush.

There are mods on the Nexus that readds all that cut content back into the game that you posted about: http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46648/? http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46355/?

Modders, sometimes I love you and sometimes I get frustrated with you but I mostly love you! :dance:

Those are great mods and I use them in my NV games all the time, but you will get serious framerate problems and frequent crashes in Freeside if you use them. Followers' pathing also goes crazy in Freeside with them. If you use them, do yourself a huge favor and make sure you use NVAC as well (IMO, you should be using NVAC in your game anyway, no matter which mods you use). That fixed the crashes in Freeside for me, but the fps drops and other stuff still remain.
 
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Too bad I'm on console.

I was a console gamer for a while too but changing over to PC was the best choice I ever made gaming wise. In fact the reason I changed to PC was because of the modding community for New Vegas.

I have never owned a console.

PC all the way.

Steam Sales/GoG have made it almost the same cost to own a gaming PC or a console at this point if you play a lot. Not to mention all the titles that don't make it to consoles, old games, mods.
 
Too bad I'm on console.

I was a console gamer for a while too but changing over to PC was the best choice I ever made gaming wise. In fact the reason I changed to PC was because of the modding community for New Vegas.

I have never owned a console.

PC all the way.

Steam Sales/GoG have made it almost the same cost to own a gaming PC or a console at this point if you play a lot. Not to mention all the titles that don't make it to consoles, old games, mods. Now they are even putting full GTX 980 cards in 17 inch laptops and while the price for those is still high I think in the near future we will see gaming laptops become cheap enough and run close enough to desktops to gain even more purchases from people who would otherwise prefer a console.
 
I did not know that!

Yeah, it's part of the Aba Daba Honeymoon questline--you can ask Motor-Runner about the history of Vault 3 and sell him drugs from your personal stash at a slight markup.

It's a shame Motor-Runner's dialogue is bugged to the point where interactions with him are limited. Also, there is a lot of cut dialogue for the other Fiend commanders suggesting that the developers intended for them to be interacted with to a small extent--Violet and Cook-Cook are both off their rockers (big surprise), Nephi is rude, menacing, and has unpleasant things to say about the ghoul in the Aerotech Office Park.

Yeah they're great guys. First playthrough I killed them all and then learned more about them, which is when I regretted it. Then I played another character who allied with them.

I dug the fact that the Powder Gangers were a loose conglomerate of splinter factions.

There was Eddie and his crew holed up in the prison. Some were assholes like Scrambler while others, like Carter and Hannigan, were more sympathetic--just small time crooks who got caught up in the prison break and stuck around for the simple fact they had nowhere else safer to go.

Then you had small roving groups of them roaming around, doing their own thing and causing trouble... Joe Cobb and his boys, Chavez's crew, the guys who sacked Primm, Boxcars and the group from Nipton, etc.

Finally, you meet up with Samuel Cooke and his gang and find they're squabbling over leadership and direction.

I really appreciate the depth these guys were given and the fact that they were something more than just another bunch of nameless mooks to mow down.

Sir, you've brought tears to my eyes. Shit, Powder Gangers were written better than Fallout 4 was.
 
Funny how a small and minor faction like the Powder Gangers were more well written then any of the major factions in Fallout 4 or most of Fallout 4 for that matter.
 
Sir, you've brought tears to my eyes. Shit, Powder Gangers were written better than Fallout 4 was.

No kidding.

I'll never forget the first time I completed I Fought the Law in favor of the Powder Gangers. I'm running all over the place like a chicken without a head, making sure I got all the invading NCR goons.

I pop into Cell Block B to make sure things are cool there and find Carter in panic mode screaming, "I don't wanna die!"

Felt so bad for the guy...
 
My mind is flooding with memories of faction disguises, desert, Caesar's Legion , House and ..."big iron on his hip".
 
I use those mods too but Open Freeside drops in frames in some places but it's running on a engine being pushed past its limits so I understand. I enjoy being around people who like similar things. :P
 
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