Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
Well it can be another star, doesn't have to be the Chinese one.
Still the supermutants helms we saw earlier also looked Chinese to me, maybe you are onto something.
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Lived Through the Heat Death
Well it can be another star, doesn't have to be the Chinese one.
Still the supermutants helms we saw earlier also looked Chinese to me, maybe you are onto something.
No they won't. It's a popular misconception. Cockroaches are South American* and only survive in North America and elsewhere because they feed on human refuse. No humans = no cockroaches. Mosquitoes, fleas, rats, and jellyfish are the real survivors. Even mantids would be around after cockroaches.terebikun said:
But as far a perpetrating a misinformed assumption, yeah it's spot on. It's still the least displeasing thing on that page.
*edit: ok, wife just told me that that's only true of the "American Cockroach" and that there are hundreds of species all over the world. It's nice being married to a biologist who tells you when you've made a fool of yourself.
Morbus
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
How is that an orc? You know what an orc is, right? The real ones, not those fake tolkien ones, much less peterson's orcs...
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Briosafreak said:
You ninja-quoting bastard! I edited that out because the US had some WW2-era star emblems that were similar, as did Russia, and who knows what the artist is doing there. It'd help explain why some of the robots are anthropomorphic and the others are more like the originals in Fallout if it was Chinese, though.
That said I love the Gort-eyed dude on the right. I hope he's one of the ones you can hack and send off to kick ass in your stead.
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Morbus said:
Do you know what an Orc is, Morbus?
Autoduel76
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
As with everyone else, I don't really like the different direction they went with the supermutants.
But, I actually think that most of everything else is pretty good.
I disagree with a lot of the opinions in here about the Brahmin. I think the added detail on the brahmin is very nice, and fitting with the setting. They look more ragged and sickly than you get to see in the Fallout sprites, but I think that's a good thing. I also think the mole rat, right above it, is spot on.
The 2 bipedal humanoid robots, on the far left and far right, I see why people don't like, but the rest of the robots I think look excellent. And I actually don't personally mind the humanoid robot on the far left, though that may be for personal reasons as it reminds me of various illustrations of the robot from Ted Hughes' "The Iron Man". While 60's inspired, rather than true Atomic Age, it's one of my favorite children's stories and I just like the character.
Anyway, Architecture, Machinery and Clothing is all especially nice. The Chick in the Leather Armour is probably my favorite piece of the whole series.
But, I actually think that most of everything else is pretty good.
I disagree with a lot of the opinions in here about the Brahmin. I think the added detail on the brahmin is very nice, and fitting with the setting. They look more ragged and sickly than you get to see in the Fallout sprites, but I think that's a good thing. I also think the mole rat, right above it, is spot on.
The 2 bipedal humanoid robots, on the far left and far right, I see why people don't like, but the rest of the robots I think look excellent. And I actually don't personally mind the humanoid robot on the far left, though that may be for personal reasons as it reminds me of various illustrations of the robot from Ted Hughes' "The Iron Man". While 60's inspired, rather than true Atomic Age, it's one of my favorite children's stories and I just like the character.
Anyway, Architecture, Machinery and Clothing is all especially nice. The Chick in the Leather Armour is probably my favorite piece of the whole series.
Morbus
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
A mythical otherworldly creature from Nordic (Gaelic?) mythology.Bodybag said:
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Morbus said:
Oh, you mean a real orc. Gotcha. Incidentally:
Fantasy orcs = Tolkien's interpretation 99 times out of 100. Do you even have a point here, or are you just orcing me?.
i liked some of this stuff, especially the critters.. the brahmin looked like it was going to starve to death and the radscorpion looked mean. wtf is with lobster boy though? he looks like a stand in for a power rangers villain of the week.
i didn't really care for the fashion section so much. it looked like they were trying too hard to me, and i really hope that everyone in the game doesn't look like the village idiot. everything in that image displeases me except for the chick in leather armor and the guy with all the pockets and gear who looks like he was almost in stalker.
didn't really like the orcs either. but that's nothing new.
i didn't really care for the fashion section so much. it looked like they were trying too hard to me, and i really hope that everyone in the game doesn't look like the village idiot. everything in that image displeases me except for the chick in leather armor and the guy with all the pockets and gear who looks like he was almost in stalker.
didn't really like the orcs either. but that's nothing new.
Seymour the spore plant
Still Mildly Glowing
Bodybag said:
Is the Incredible Hulk an orc? Because really, he's more akin to Fallout's super mutants than most current renditions of orcs, like the LotR movies, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, etc, who all look A LOT like Bethesda's design.
That said, there are more cartoony depictions of orcs out there (picture Warcraft orcs) which will inevitably resemble super mutants - both are strong, jut-jawed humanoid creatures with green skin. But even those tend to have a feral quality, as well as sharp protruding teeth or maybe claw-like nails, that are missing in super mutants, who are simply goofy mutated humans.
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Seymour the spore plant said:
That pic of Marcus looks way more like an orc than he does the friggin' Hulk, who, COINCIDENTALLY, favors the F3 Super Mutants a lot more than the first 2 Fallout versions:
DocConrad
First time out of the vault
One thing I can say for certain about the concept art: at least we know what the loading screens are going to look like. Fuck.
Back on topic:
As far as the images are concerned I like most of them. I'll go ahead and say I even like the centaur design...a lot. One thing I REALLY dislike though is Robert DeNiro playing the Super Mutants.
What's the fuckin' deal?
Back on topic:
As far as the images are concerned I like most of them. I'll go ahead and say I even like the centaur design...a lot. One thing I REALLY dislike though is Robert DeNiro playing the Super Mutants.
What's the fuckin' deal?
Anani Masu
Still Mildly Glowing
also Lineage orcs
TwinkieGorilla
This ghoul has seen it all
oh cool! you guys are arguing about orcs! 
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Yellow said:
Yeah, once you get over the holy gospel aspect of canon you see that pretty much every RPG shares some fantasy analogues. SM= orcs, ghouls = zombies, stimpacks = healing potions, ect.
Giant rats are pretty much universal, though.
oh cool! you guys are arguing about orcs!
Hey look, we're only 5 pages in this discussion before you notice enough to roll your eyes. Hey guy, this is important stuff!
Bodybag said:
Apparently it's totally not a big, tough green guy with a prominent lower jaw. If people didn't know this was a Fallout site and all they saw was the big mutant up there, come on, how many people wouldn't confuse it for a Warhammer 40,000 space ork fansite?
Slaughter Manslaught
Vault Senior Citizen
Mettle said:
Well, they did. At least I remember they did. That, and they're arachnids, so it's natural for them to have 8 legs.
iridium_ionizer
Mildly Dipped
In fantasy settings there are usually only two major types of orcs: 1) The bulldog-shaped face orc (which may or may not have a pig nose and and green skin) ; 2) the strong human-looking face (chiseled jaw and cheek bones) ; and 3) the creepy but weak human-looking face (the orc urchin as it could be called has a face that borrows features from the creepy old man archetype - possibly including a long nose, wrinkles, etc.).
The supermutants from Fallout 1 & 2 borrow elements from the first two groups but are fundamentally different: they don't have too many or too protruding sharp teeth, large mouth and jaw, and all facial features seem human except for the thick green skin, aforementioned mouth and jaw. I think the picture shown above of the Hulk reminds me more of Harry's face than any of the concept art or screen shots seen thus far.
And I want to restate that I think most of the Diablo-esque comments regarding the Deathclaw wouldn't have been made if the artist had given it a big toothy smile.
The supermutants from Fallout 1 & 2 borrow elements from the first two groups but are fundamentally different: they don't have too many or too protruding sharp teeth, large mouth and jaw, and all facial features seem human except for the thick green skin, aforementioned mouth and jaw. I think the picture shown above of the Hulk reminds me more of Harry's face than any of the concept art or screen shots seen thus far.
And I want to restate that I think most of the Diablo-esque comments regarding the Deathclaw wouldn't have been made if the artist had given it a big toothy smile.