BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
Whatever my dude, have a good New Years.
Whatever my dude, have a good New Years.
TheGM
The voice of reason
That shit was hilarious/fucking inbred retarded.
Thinks the force is bullshit.
Gets hit the force.
Has now mastered the force in 30 minutes and bests somebody training in it their entire life.
I'm not even a big star wars fan but c'mon.
BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
- Blows up a Death Star "[using] the force" after turning off his targeting equipment.
- Leads a counter-attack against the Imperial AT-AT assault and disables one single-handedly.
- Pulls a light saber from the snow despite having no aforementioned training in the use of the force.
- Somehow can fly an X-Wing with incredible aptitude despite having only flown a T-16 Skyhopper as a bush pilot. Guess it's no different to an X-Wing after all.
- Infiltrates, rescues Princess Leia, and escapes from the Death Star (the first time around).
Like I said, it's not as overbearing as Rey, but there are soft-qualities.
BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
Wow that was horribly obnoxious. I get that @Walpknut's cynicism can be a bit grating but at least he's willing to have a discussion with those with dissenting opinions.
Yeah, no, it wasn't obnoxious nor was that the intent if that's how you interpreted it. Just don't feel like having an overly invested discussion over who's the most correct on whether TFA or Rogue One has the more likable cast.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
.Blows up the death star by exploiting a weakness the movie build up to and barely escapes from Vader, his use of the force is treated more as meditation than gaining super powers. Still gets his ass beat in the next movie by Vader and a wild animal.
-Funny, he also ends up lost in the snow and he was surrounded by other troops.
-There is a time skip between the first 2 movies and pulling a lightsaber to you seems to be the basic of the basics, it's not comparable to a Jedi mind trick on the first day using the force. And he does this after months of at least improvising use of the force.
-He is good at flying a one man ship while assisted by R2D2, compare this to flying a 2 person ship by herself and fixing shit in the Millenium Falcon that it's original owners never managed to do.
-Seems you are forgetting the rescue was a set up by the Empire and Leia even states that they got off too easy.
I guess when you remove context everything is the same...
-Funny, he also ends up lost in the snow and he was surrounded by other troops.
-There is a time skip between the first 2 movies and pulling a lightsaber to you seems to be the basic of the basics, it's not comparable to a Jedi mind trick on the first day using the force. And he does this after months of at least improvising use of the force.
-He is good at flying a one man ship while assisted by R2D2, compare this to flying a 2 person ship by herself and fixing shit in the Millenium Falcon that it's original owners never managed to do.
-Seems you are forgetting the rescue was a set up by the Empire and Leia even states that they got off too easy.
I guess when you remove context everything is the same...
R.Graves
Confirmed Retard
Oh without a doubt TFA though I did enjoy rogue one more.
And, yeah, sorry It just seemed like you using the word "whatever" was meant to dismiss his opinions and then ending the conversation all together... It just... Idk came off as obnoxious. But I'm sure it can't be any more obnoxious than me coming in here and putting you down out of the blue. Sorry, mate.
BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
Sure, you're right on some parts.
- The line between meditation and super-powers [regarding the force] is very thin. Rey isn't facing an ubermensch dark lord of the sith like Vader [who comically got clipped out into deep space by Han's 'just in the nick of time' maneuver. She's fighting his edge-lord grandkid who was hit by a blaster bolt in the kidney and is on the verge of bleeding out. His training isn't even complete according to Snoke.
- No, he ends up scot-free and gets in an X-Wing to go to Dagobah.
- What does R2D2 even do to help him pilot the craft in ship-to-ship combat outside of call out potential threats? It's not comparable to his experience in a civilian craft. You're pushing an open door with me when you point out how Rey can basically pull off 360 no-scopes with a Millennium Falcon, but I've been saying soft vs. hard qualities.
- I'll give you this one; I forgot about that quip Leia made.
It's cool man; happy new years
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TheGM
The voice of reason
Or you just don't know what the fuck a mary sue is.
BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
I do. You seem to believe in black and white characterization. By the most basic definition, most protagonists are Mary Sues because they ultimately always succeed in what is typically a totally lost cause.
Writers typically mix it up by throwing in pitfalls, mishaps, or character flaws to say "see, they ain't perfect." It still doesn't strip them of not being a Mary-sue.
The character doesn't need to be mister gung-ho Rambo that can shoot frags out of his ass and karate chop alligators in half. They can have certain underlying qualities that separates him or her from the flock as "something special" or the "Chosen One."
In Rey's circumstance, at least there's an explanation for why she's capable of doing some of shit she does. She was left stranded on a desert by someone at a young age, in the care of a prick alien that treated her like a slave.
She's developed natural athleticism and combat abilities because she spends her time competing with other scavengers in giant starships. It's implied she knows her way around ships and has an ability to fly them skillfully (more than one can believe apparently). I mostly chalk that up to the writers alluding to her families penchant for being skilled at flying.
It's overbearing in some of situations, but at least it's explained somewhere how she can do what she does.
If you juxtapose it to Luke, he's basically an ignorant farm boy that wanted to join the academy. He didn't really have a lot of the physical and or mental acuity that Rey had growing up on a shithole planet. Luke grew up in an ivory tower compared to her.
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TheGM
The voice of reason
And is with this quote you confirm you don't know what a mary sue is. or how a story works. also some other stuff too.
Lulz? Someone is arguing that Rey is not Mary Sue? Have you been bitten by the feminist spider or something 
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BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
I'd ask you to elaborate, but you've more or less affirmed how ignorant you are.
Lulz? Someone is arguing that Rey is not Mary Sue? Have you been bitten by the feminist spider or something
No, I've actually made it quite clear [many times] that Rey is.
Oh, ok then, never mind I said anything.
Anyway, one great thing about new Star Wars movies is ...
Plinkett Reviews!
Anyway, one great thing about new Star Wars movies is ...
Plinkett Reviews!
BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
Awesome, didn't see he uploaded another one. Curious to see if he responds to AngryJoe's comment lol.
Eh, AngrySchmock. I kinda 'liked' him when he was screaming a lot. But now that he's more calm with his reviews, I think I kinda see why some don't like him.
And I guess with that I can pronounce Mr. Plinkett dead and RedLetterMedia gone and useless. His TFA review sucked already, and this isn't any better.
The Half In The Bag reviews are even worse, they're all the semi-retarded voice-work from Mr. Plinkett without the humour or intelligence. I seriously can't watch Half In The Bag.
What happened Hassknecht?
I remember Plinkett's reviews of the Star Wars prequels and remember finding them amusing.
I remember Plinkett's reviews of the Star Wars prequels and remember finding them amusing.
Yeah, his old, long reviews of the prequels and the Star Trek movies were awesome and on point. But the TFA review was 3/4 talking about nothing and 1/4 actual review, and it was boring because he liked it and didn't know what to say. The Rogue One review was seven minutes of nothing, really. "Rogue One didn't have emotion, characters, or story". That's all. No reasons, no meticulous dissection of where Rogue One failed except that one scene where he felt there was a lack of talking (which, in my opinion, actually kinda added to the scene).
Well, still better than the Half In The Bag review, which was three minutes of the same joke after which I couldn't stand them listening to them anymore. I hate Plinkett's voice, and it's tolerable in the actual Plinkett reviews because it's a funny character, but in Half In The Bag, when it's the actual guy behind Plinkett, I just can't stand it. Especially when it's not funny or even intelligent at all.
Well, still better than the Half In The Bag review, which was three minutes of the same joke after which I couldn't stand them listening to them anymore. I hate Plinkett's voice, and it's tolerable in the actual Plinkett reviews because it's a funny character, but in Half In The Bag, when it's the actual guy behind Plinkett, I just can't stand it. Especially when it's not funny or even intelligent at all.
The sad part is, that there is plenty of stuff to say about TFA even, but I guess the problem is that TFA is simply an normal action movie, a mediocre Blockbuster triple A super-polished production which means that it's not great, but not so bad that you have to hate it.
However, I am curious about something though, is every Stormtrooper in Rogue One so incompetent like in those actions scenes they showed?
However, I am curious about something though, is every Stormtrooper in Rogue One so incompetent like in those actions scenes they showed?