The aspect of Fallout 3 that i liked better then New Vegas

Crni Vuk said:
the faces ... I really hope Bethesda hirred some skilled person reworking the faces of their engine.

I really can not look in to this grimaces anymore already since Oblivion.

Like so much other stuff, this has nothing to do with the engine. It's the people being incompetent creating content/tools for it, not always the engines fault. No wonder, if people hire animators just because they are old highschool buddies (like in FO3s Todd Howard example), not because they are skilled with. The engine is not to blame if you have talentless people interpreting it.
 
yeah I know and I completely agree. I was just saying "their engine" because currently when ever I see either Oblivion, Fallout 3 or Vegas I always associate it with "shit faces". Which is sad.

Hence why I really hope they spend more time on it for their next game.
 
I was actually impressed with some of the faces in New Vegas, although most of the minor characters still look like they ran into a brick wall.
 
To be honest, faces of some more important character were quite well done, both in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
However, faces of the majority of minor characters were...you know...
 
To be honest though, one thing I really did think was better in FO3 was the aesthetics of the wasteland. I actually found the Capital wasteland (Not DC, just the wasteland) Desolately beautiful. The broken overpasses in the distance, the hills wit the burned out trees, and that Bethesda's knowledge of the engine allowed it to look much more vast and nicer looking than the Mojave. Like, compare
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yeah. When it comes to the "wasteland" feeling Vegas was a huge letdown.

I wish they would have decided to spend more time on making a "realistic" Vegas instead of this "lulz-casino-new-reno-clone" town. Something which you really could imagine. And of course a much bigger map with distances between the locations. The area feels very cramped
 
Crni Vuk said:
yeah. When it comes to the "wasteland" feeling Vegas was a huge letdown.


but was it really ever suppose to be a wasteland... Vegas and the surrounding areas weren't hit by nearly as many nukes as say DC. Mr House himself mentioned only a few got past him, the devastation in the mojave was never as great. The decision to make the Mojave more desert then wasteland was a sound one, particularly with the understanding that its been hundreds of years since the bombs fell. Dont get me wrong i liked how the DC wasteland was presented and liked that it was a harsh wasteland even if it didn't really make sense in terms of the timeline but i dont fault NV for not copying and pasting that style
 
Fallout 3 looks better at first, but after playing for about an hour with that green filter I'll take New Vegas any day.
 
Felspawn said:
Crni Vuk said:
yeah. When it comes to the "wasteland" feeling Vegas was a huge letdown.


but was it really ever suppose to be a wasteland... Vegas and the surrounding areas weren't hit by nearly as many nukes as say DC. Mr House himself mentioned only a few got past him, the devastation in the mojave was never as great. The decision to make the Mojave more desert then wasteland was a sound one, particularly with the understanding that its been hundreds of years since the bombs fell. Dont get me wrong i liked how the DC wasteland was presented and liked that it was a harsh wasteland even if it didn't really make sense in terms of the timeline but i dont fault NV for not copying and pasting that style

And did anybody say DC was bombed most?
How the hell did the White House remain as a ruin is beyond me, I expected a big hole there, not a Tsunami ruined Fukushima.
But the big gaping whole was everything between Rivet City and Megaton. There were more people in Fallout 1 than FO3 ever had. It's a pain to walk over nothing to find more nothing.

Actually to be honest, I liked one part and that was Dunwich Horror.
 
I didn't play FO3 until after the first two and New Vegas so I was disappointed. I was expecting it to be like NV where there's something to do literally everywhere you go, then I spent 75% of my time playing just wandering around looking for a quest to do.

The part I enjoyed most was shooting Moira Brown in the face. I don't think I've ever hated a fictional character that much.
 
LinkPain said:
How the hell did the White House remain as a ruin is beyond me,.


So being a huge crater is intact now?

Both of the game's graphics are terrible but the new ones will be better what with the Skyrim engine and all.
 
Only thing I liked when it comes to enviromental stuff are the city ruins in DC, or maybe even the Pitt which looked decent to me. I was craving for some abandonend cities and destroyed houses etc and FO3 delivered. Pretty much the only positive thing I personally can tell about the game. That one quest where one had to go through this big old hotel ( ? ) was pretty decent, atmospherically and for the eyes. (and no, I don't mean this horrible dunwich building)

As for that filter stuff, it can help building up atmospheres and setting tones, but it was way overused in FO3.
 
Sabirah said:
LinkPain said:
How the hell did the White House remain as a ruin is beyond me,.


So being a huge crater is intact now?

There's something still standing and a mainteneance (or whatever it is) tunnel that isn't collapsed and immediately outside the WH perimeter there's no damage at all. If a nuke hit the building right on the head there should be absolutely nothing left of it, I think.
 
Stanislao Moulinsky said:
Sabirah said:
LinkPain said:
How the hell did the White House remain as a ruin is beyond me,.


So being a huge crater is intact now?

There's something still standing and a mainteneance (or whatever it is) tunnel that isn't collapsed and immediately outside the WH perimeter there's no damage at all. If a nuke hit the building right on the head there should be absolutely nothing left of it, I think.

True but a lot of things in Fallout fork differently

Like if there was really an Atomic war there wouldn't be any people left afterwords
 
Sabirah said:
Stanislao Moulinsky said:
Sabirah said:
LinkPain said:
How the hell did the White House remain as a ruin is beyond me,.


So being a huge crater is intact now?

There's something still standing and a mainteneance (or whatever it is) tunnel that isn't collapsed and immediately outside the WH perimeter there's no damage at all. If a nuke hit the building right on the head there should be absolutely nothing left of it, I think.

True but a lot of things in Fallout fork differently

Like if there was really an Atomic war there wouldn't be any people left afterwords

Wrong. Check Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There were people left and there were buildings left...well not so much left on either side. That's one bomb in one place each.
And I'm talking about bombs from the 50' because it's that kind of a setting. At least it looks like it and I'm not much of a scientist but the Internet is free. Anyway, whatever kind of atomic bomb was it, if 2 or more fell on the White House there would be HUGE desert, a putrid waste. Unless it's more intact than the Glow which was underground.
Metro 2033 doesn't have that kind of a problem because the Russians really do have over 400 bunkers beneath the ground. They built it for cold war.
Back to Fallout. USA built bunkers all over the country, they did not stack themselves in DC and wait for Armageddon to happen. Else there would never be any kind of a Vault.

But I don't think even Beth knew what to make in FO3 so they went by the hunch, and then we got nuclear cars among other shits.
If it's so fucking hard to look at Mad Max movie even once why make the game at all? I liked FO3 at first but then I realized it was all pointless, nothing is in that cave or that corner that I haven't seen, DC metro was a bull and a chore, I got 2 towns and a hell of a lot boring desert. What happened to the atmosphere?
Even Harlod was passable! WTF!
In FNV every place has its own interaction, its connection to the general. Yeah it looks like New Reno outskirts but so what? Was Reno ever that bad? It's still way better than what FO3 has to offer, there is so much more in it and it's not only the NPCs. Which would you prefer anyway, Megaton to New Vegas?

On the other hand, yeah, FO3 had more "waste" in its wasteland.
 
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