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What BoS division do you speculate is in Boston?
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Dr Fallout
Centurion
The leaders of the Enclave in FO2 were puppets, there for show and ceremony. The real power lay behind the scientists and military, which probably resulted in fractious behaviour which could have slowed their advancement.
Languorous_Maiar
A Smooth-Skin
You are right. During the events of FO2 entire personel of Enclave went to Oil Rig for inoculation. (with the exception of Navarro group)
Then Bethesda came and fucked up lore creating hundreds of Enclave soldiers from nothing. Yay.
Chicago Outpost should be empty, unless forces of Autumn/Eden went there or Beth will harm lore more.
TomJ
Still Mildly Glowing
I would like to see the Midwestern BoS encounter the Outcasts or a branch of the Western BoS. It would make for an interesting conflict. The hoard technology for no good reason folks meeting the we hoard technology and use it as a carrot to get what we want group. I liked Fallout 3, but the BoS was too, generic. They didn't have much depth other than to be the good guys. I'm hopeful that the Enclave won't be a major component of any future game. They were destroyed in 3 and barring some base like Raven Rock somewhere else in the country, they won't have anywhere to get a large number of troops from. I suspect the the Chicago Outpost was built around some sort of small bunker and isn't anything more than a large settlement like Vault City.
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TorontoReign
Guest
We should be learning this soon with all the leaks.
I think it won't be more than what you saw in Fallout 3. Remember you had the "Outcast", the ones that were supposed to represent the true Brotherhood in F3, or something like that. And the game did pretty much nothing with them.
RangerBoo
Resident Schizo Poster
You know they could have done something really creative with the Outcast. They could have made a civil war going on with The Brotherhood over the ideals and direction that the Brotherhood is going. One side supports taking a more active stance in the comings and goings of the wasteland as they can't survive with how things are going and need to create alliances and have the help of the masses while the other believe that would betray the Brotherhoods ideals and interfere with their mission and orders. We could have seen both Brotherhood factions fighting over tech with one side wishing to use it to help the citizens of a benighted wasteland while the other wishes to horde it away for themselves and for the citizens "own good", believing that this tech is too dangerous for the ignorant and uneducated wasteland masses.
But nope! Instead we get fetch quests. Typical Bethesda.
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Bubba Zanetti
I know what I'm doing
Sad thing is even though all those ideas you threw out came off the top of your head just now, you still put more thought into the Outcasts than Beth did.
Freakin' shame...
RangerBoo
Resident Schizo Poster
Hell, I could right 3 whole pages on how to make Fallout 3 better. But I am pretty sure most of us here can.
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TorontoReign
Guest
Probably been a thread before covering just that. I seem to remember one come to think of it.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Why not make a new one?
Theinnerfish
Storytelling skeleton
From another leaked video: This BoS recuits outsiders.
MKSaibot
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Signs of Midwest
I think Bethesda should not have even bothered with the Enclave (or Super Mutants for that matter, or the East coast setting) and do something with a Brotherhood Civil War instead, with civilians, settlements, and other factions caught between or being bystanders.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Wha'chu talkin' bout guys? They did things with the Outcasts! They gave you some sweeeeeeet Black and red armor so that Steel can crawl in your skin while you explore the super dark and GRRRRRITTTY hardcore dark Wasteland! They allowed you toshow the NPCs that you were dangerous on the other side of the screen too!
MKSaibot
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Well I guess, but the fact it was just pointed out that they recruit outsiders tells me that it is a thing of theirs. Like they might be trying to expand across the region like the midwest did in tactics. They recruited everyone and anything intelligent enough.
While it's true the Midwest brotherhood recruited outsiders, it's 10 years after FO3. Lyon's Brotherhood also seemed to recruit outsiders as well, and 10 years after, I can see this being the stranded operating procedure. Until I see concrete proof of the Midwestern Brotherhood, I'm almost certain it's Lyon's.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Fixed.
MKSaibot
It Wandered In From the Wastes
It is doubtfully Midwest, but I think it is just as equally doubtful that it is Lyon's. The BoS insignia's you see in Fallout 3 are actually consistent, and their is two of them. Its known to some that you see both variations of the BoS insignia's throughout Fallout 3, however they are consistent, here is why.
The Insignia variation with the cog to the left is on every single last piece of armor of the BoS in Fallout 3, and it doesn't stop their. It is on the captured Vertibird from Broken Steel, and it is on the flag of the Citadel in of the CwBoS. The same variation, cog to the left of the sword.
Then you can find several area's in Fallout 3 with the cog to the right of the sword in the insignia but is painted on a pillar or a wall, or on a miscellaneous items, and structures.
The vertibird's from F3 and F4 are I would go as far as to say drastically different in design, and also their is not a BoS insignia on them. Which doesn't really mean anything, but lets move on.
The insignia on the BoS armor in Fallout 4 is the cog to the right of the sword, along with the same insignia on the Prydwen.
I think if it is anything, anything at all from DC it is the Outcast and that is rudimentary to just say "the Outcast". I mean Lyon's is gone, they are history, the "Outcast" are the BoS in DC. If the 2287 is correct, if it has any meaning in Fallout 4, and if Bethesda literally wants to carry everything over from DC to Boston it is the DC BoS, but it's not Lyon's. This is a BoS that has similar if not the same doctrines of the rest of the BoS. They want technology, and they want to expand (like they did in Tactics).
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