What is it with people and the immortal dog?

How about this... let's not start complaining about Fallout 4 until it's released and we've all played it for a decent amount of time?

I mean, I understand this is NMA and you guys hate everything Bethesda but come on. As someone who has played all of the games, it's stupid to blindly bash something without giving it a chance. Besides, It's not like you can just install mods or anything to fix whatever problems DO come up.
 
TheAugmentedScyther said:
How about this... let's not start complaining about Fallout 4 until it's released and we've all played it for a decent amount of time?

I mean, I understand this is NMA and you guys hate everything Bethesda but come on. As someone who has played all of the games, it's stupid to blindly bash something without giving it a chance. Besides, It's not like you can just install mods or anything to fix whatever problems DO come up.
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How about we talk about it since that is the purpose of a forum?
 
TheAugmentedScyther said:
How about this... let's not start complaining about Fallout 4 until it's released and we've all played it for a decent amount of time?

I mean, I understand this is NMA and you guys hate everything Bethesda but come on. As someone who has played all of the games, it's stupid to blindly bash something without giving it a chance. Besides, It's not like you can just install mods or anything to fix whatever problems DO come up.
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How about ths... Let's not start getting excited about Fallout 4 until it's released and we've played it for a decent amount of time?

I mean, I understand this is GameFaqs and you guys wank off to everything Bethesda but come on. As someone who has played all Bethesda games, it's stupid to blindly hype over something before you've even seen someone other than Bethesda actually play it. But mods will fix everything I guess, so Bethesda shouldn't have to make a quality product that we should all just praise endlessly.
 
I love how "Modders will fix it" is the go to defense for everything Bethesda does wrong.

Actually, I don't love that.

Kudos to them for shipping modding tools, which is pretty rare in AAA, but it's weird to me how hyped people are getting about Fallout 4 when we can be fairly confident that it's going to ship broken (just like Skyrim did, just like Fo3 did, just like Oblivion did, etc.). There's a strong case to be made for "wait for the complete edition to go on sale" being the best way to handle this game.
 
What's with people goign to forums to tell them to not dicuss things.... do they even know what a forum is for? Hint: It's not just to engage in collective masturbation over games....

Then again why are we complaining? Sure the games are badly designed and they need like 2gb expansions made by amateur programmers to even be decent, why are yo ucalling it bad? Mods exist, those remove problems. Game design is not even a thing that exists. Amirite?
 
Mods will fix it all ... well the problem is that I have yet to see ONE mod that's fixing the story-line of the last 3 Beth games ...

Bugs can be fixed.

Bad story stays for ever.

TheAugmentedScyther said:
How about this... let's not start complaining about Fallout 4 until it's released and we've all played it for a decent amount of time?

I mean, I understand this is NMA and you guys hate everything Bethesda but come on. As someone who has played all of the games, it's stupid to blindly bash something without giving it a chance. Besides, It's not like you can just install mods or anything to fix whatever problems DO come up.
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What else should we do? Of course it is all just speculation at this point. But it's not like we don't have some basis for speculation.

With Todd Howard and Pete it is relatively fair to assume that they will offer the same experience as they did with the last 3 games. Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim all followed more or less the same formula, as far as the open world goes. And we have seen a few snippets of the gameplay so far. YOu are right though, they might do a 180° turn till the release of F4. But I would not hold my breath. From what we saw in the E3 trailers it doesn't seem that combat will be TO different from F3 and the writting will be on the same level as Skyrim ... maybe even ... less complex ... with the dialogue wheel and all.
 
"If you don't like it, use mods" is becoming the new "If you don't like it, don't use it". If a game is unbalanced, I can use my own house rules to not use the game-breaking features, but does that mean developers should not try to balance it as well as they can? I can use unofficial patches to fix bugs in games, but does that mean they shouldn't playtest and debug the games to the best of their abilities? Likewise, just because mods will add new content doesn't mean essential features should be left out. That's just being lazy. Mods have always been about enhancing the game experience with new stuff, not adding things that should have logically been there in the first place.
 
Walpknut said:
What's with people goign to forums to tell them to not dicuss things.... do they even know what a forum is for? Hint: It's not just to engage in collective masturbation over games....

Then again why are we complaining? Sure the games are badly designed and they need like 2gb expansions made by amateur programmers to even be decent, why are yo ucalling it bad? Mods exist, those remove problems. Game design is not even a thing that exists. Amirite?
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Stone Cold Robert House said:
"If you don't like it, use mods" is becoming the new "If you don't like it, don't use it". If a game is unbalanced, I can use my own house rules to not use the game-breaking features, but does that mean developers should not try to balance it as well as they can? I can use unofficial patches to fix bugs in games, but does that mean they shouldn't playtest and debug the games to the best of their abilities? Likewise, just because mods will add new content doesn't mean essential features should be left out. That's just being lazy. Mods have always been about enhancing the game experience with new stuff, not adding things that should have logically been there in the first place.
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tbh imo if a player has to make major changes to their gameplay to make it more challenging or improve bugfixes that goes any further than changing the difficulty in-menu or installing a developer-made patch, then the fault is with the developer. Not to say all games need to put you between a rock and a hard place but I sympathise with how piss easy most games are, and more often than not the hard modes make the enemies harder to kill rather than stopping you from being a bullet sponge.
 
It annoys me because, being a sadistic freak, I can't enact my plan to film myself finding the dog, pulling out a pistol, shooting it in the fucking face, then posting the video online with the title "Fuck Bethesda".
 
No character should be immortal in a Fallout game! Nobody! End of discussion.

At the very least, there should be a hardcore mode like they had in NV that lets people play Fallout as it should be played.

Frankly, I was bummed that they even have a mandatory dog companion.
 
He's almost cute. Almost.

Because no one ever here has lost some good words for the art direction of Fallout 3 and the splendid work that some of their artists did. Yeah. We talk only shit. That's what we do ... all day long.
 
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Crni Vuk said:
He's almost cute. Almost.

Because no one ever here has lost some good words for the art direction of Fallout 3 and the splendid work that some of their artists did. Yeah. We talk only shit. That's what we do ... all day long.
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There's nothing wrong with talking shit. :)
 
Next Bethesda Fallout should take place in Scottland, so they would have an excuse for immortals being there....
 
Do you think the SNP would still be going after the apocalypse? I can just imagine lobbying for independence in the middle of a wasteland, a now immortalised David Cameron giving them the finger :razz:
 
PossibleCabbage said:
I love how "Modders will fix it" is the go to defense for everything Bethesda does wrong.
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To be fair, the opinion expressed here on the topic of immortal dog are inconsequential compared to the vast majoirty of players who want this..

Personally, I see most AAA games as platforms and Mods as a way to add flavor and personalize the experience to my taste. There are several game series that I don't even bother play vanilla regardless of reviews.
 
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