Why Mothership Zeta is awesome

TDK's joker. Oh the cringe.... Also we are discussing actual quality of the writting here bub. Do you tackle writting like that on your books? Remind me never to read any of them.

Didn't the guy in charge even say that he got the idea for Mothership Zeta from that shitty Dreamworks movie Monsters vs Aliens? You know you are dealing with quality writting when it's proud to be a rip off of a Dreamworks movie...
 
CT Phipps said:
Whenever people go crazy over canon and silly, I go:

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Spoke the professional author whose main work involves canon established by other people...
 
Hassknecht said:
Spoke the professional author whose main work involves canon established by other people...
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Amusingly, I recently got props from the HP Lovecraft Historical Society. Which is weird, because I really thought they'd think it was garbage given it was so dramatically different from Howard Phillip's works.

Also, as much as I love Cthulhu Armageddon, it was outsold by my supervillainy books.

Cthulhu:

http://www.audible.com/pd/Sci-Fi-Fa...f=a_search_c4_1_5_srTtl?qid=1476132727&sr=1-5

89 Ratings

Rules of Supervillainy:

http://www.audible.com/pd/Fiction/T...f=a_search_c4_1_1_srTtl?qid=1484499540&sr=1-1

1950 ratings

But yes, I think respect for a franchise is mostly achieved in "themes" versus exact facts.

Walpknut said:
I am gonna miss out on reading the masterful "Cthulhu Armageddon".
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I'm afraid it requires a sense of fun. :)
 
Walpknut said:
I am gonna miss out on reading the masterful "Cthulhu Armageddon".
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Good thing I already read a book that involved WW1/2 troops fighting against Cthulhu and his army of Shoggoths... It also had HP Lovecraft (who's a former time master of the Templars) in it, and HG Wells and his timemachine brought future technology to the fight. So, CT, you got outhacked by the german master of unoriginality himself, Wolfgang Holbein ;)
 
Hassknecht said:
Good thing I already read a book that involved WW1/2 troops fighting against Cthulhu and his army of Shoggoths... It also had HP Lovecraft (who's a former time master of the Templars) in it, and HG Wells and his timemachine brought future technology to the fight. So, CT, you got outhacked by the german master of unoriginality himself, Wolfgang Holbein ;)
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There's also Achtung Cthulhu!, Space Eldritch, Redneck Eldritch, Cthulhuvidsata, and Heroes of Red Hook (about blacks, gays, and other people Lovecraft loathed fighting the Mythos).

You can add Cthulhu to just about everything.

Mine was "Cthulhu + Mad Max" but it's really "Cthulhu + Mad Max + Fallout." I will confess, though, it's like 90% Fallout 1 influences over Fallout 3.

I'm so disappointed in myself.

:)
 
Take cosmic horror and turn it into Fallout 3. You should probably send your resume to Bethesda, feels like you would fit right in.
 
I'd hate to attack Phipps' books given that I have 0 knowledge of them, but judging by his views of importance of lore, continuity, internal logic of the setting and what is overall considered quality and complexity over mindless fun, I have a hard time believing there is anything worthwhile in them.

An author who hand-waves the issues of proper internal workings of the setting or the overall work with "why so serious" is not an author I'd consider good.
 
Walpknut said:
Take cosmic horror and turn it into Fallout 3. You should probably send your resume to Bethesda, feels like you would fit right in.
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I was giddy as all get out when I found the Dunwich Building.

Sadly, they just repeated the joke and made it less funny in Fallout 4.

I admit, I am probably the only person who loved Cabot House, though. I was also annoyed Pickman wasn't a ghoul.
 
Atomkilla said:
I'd hate to attack Phipps' books given that I have 0 knowledge of them, but judging by his views of importance of lore, continuity, internal logic of the setting and what is overall considered quality and complexity over mindless fun, I have a hard time believing there is anything worthwhile in them.

An author who hand-waves the issues of proper internal workings of the setting or the overall work with "why so serious" is not an author I'd consider good.
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I admit, I don't write anything like I like my video games. I prefer writing about morally ambiguous antiheroes in gray and gray morality worlds where the bad guys are the establishment with heaps of social commentary plus black comedy.

Not so much of that in Skyrim or Fallout.

Alas, they haven't made Snow Crash into a Triple A video game yet.

Here's what the audiobook reviewer said about me: https://audiobookreviewer.com/reviews/user-submitted/guest-review-cthulhu-armageddon-c-t-phipps/

But yes, I guess I just don't mind a bit of mindless silly to go along with my bleak and depressing Fallout.

A Nuka World and Old World Blues and Mothership Zeta for every trip to the Divide.
 
CT Phipps said:
I admit, I don't write anything like I like my video games. I prefer writing about morally ambiguous antiheroes in gray and gray morality worlds where the bad guys are the establishment with heaps of social commentary plus black comedy.

Not so much of that in Skyrim or Fallout..
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That is a double standard, y'know. Not the bit about you not writing stuff like in video games, but that you don't apply a certain criteria for quality of writing in fantasy/sci-fi books and fantasy/sci-fi games. Just because they're two mediums doesn't warrant one having inferior standards for quality and total disregard of logic and continuity, among other things. In the end, both are written stories, settings and characters. Why do you approve bad writing in one and disapprove bad writing in other?
So yeah, you have double standards.
 
joevonzombie said:
Translation: I lack an actual compelling argument because I like it just because.
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I've said why I like it. I think it's awesome to take a break from the bleak, awful, hellish Capital Wasteland to a bright colorful 1950s Sci-Fi setting in a zany alien abduction plot.

Not every story can be Lonesome Road.

We need our Old World Blues.
 
R.Graves said:
and believe me there's nothing at all wrong with that. but when something has no objective quality then I think its safe to assume that, by definition, its a guilty pleasure and nothing more.
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Absolutely, one of my favorite shooters is Judge Dredd: Dredd vs Death. It's not a good game and will admit that, but I enjoy it nonetheless.

CT Phipps said:
I've said why I like it. I think it's awesome to take a break from the bleak, awful, hellish Capital Wasteland to a bright colorful 1950s Sci-Fi setting in a zany alien abduction plot.

Not every story can be Lonesome Road.

We need our Old World Blues.
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Yeah except OWB is actually on theme, competently written, and well designed.
 
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joevonzombie said:
Absolutely, one of my favorite shooters is Judge Dredd: Dredd vs Death. It's not a good game and will admit that, but I enjoy it nonetheless.
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I love Howard the Duck and Jaws unleashed.
Yeah except OWB is actually on theme, competently written, and well designed.
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ehhhh... well designed though? whereas zeta is a generic corridor shooter I'd also claim that OWB would be a generic open world shooter were it not for its characters and writing. I mean that DLC really is just fetch quests and shooting.
 
CT Phipps said:
I've said why I like it. I think it's awesome to take a break from the bleak, awful, hellish Capital Wasteland to a bright colorful 1950s Sci-Fi setting in a zany alien abduction plot.

Not every story can be Lonesome Road.

We need our Old World Blues.
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Ahhh, the good old 'rule of cool'

Crazy? Maybe questionable!? But is it 'cool'? Sure, let us do it! What's the worst that could happen?
 
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