When story elements cloud people's ability to judge a video game on its gameplay, then yes, I'm going to call them out on it. I don't like Mothership Zeta's writing anymore than you, Norzan. I just don't let things like a departure from canon drive me to the point where I automatically write something off as 100% complete garbage.
Video games are a lot more than just a story, which is why I applaud
@CT Phipps for pointing out elements of Mothership Zeta that worked, like the art design.
Especially in a reactionary environment like No Mutants Allowed, where pretty much anyone who attempts to praise Fallout 3 or 4 for even the most minute detail gets immediately dogpiled with users declaring them retarded because they don't understand the narrative.
I get that these games are insulting to fans, but they aren't as bad as people make them out to be. There is a lot of immature black and white thinking in this community, which is somewhat ironic given Fallout's themes of mature gray ambiguity.
My point is that you, for several times in the other thread and just above, saying we "take things too seriously" to try depict us as these overly serious, raging fanboys. This pisses me off on so many levels. This attempt to try to diminish major insults aggravates me to no end. Well, excuse me if i like the lore to stay consistent for the most part and not have major nonsense like this DLC.
This series, for the most part, is taking itself seriously. Why the hell would the point of the series be about ethics in post-apocalyptic world? The folly of humanity? If the series didn't want us to take itself seriously, then it shouldn't try to relay these messages to the player.
One of the problems with Fallout 3 is a completely nonsensical tone. It goes from completely overly serious to completely wacky in another turn, like this stupid DLC. So, does the game want me to take itself seriously or see it as a joke? Because it's trying to do both and failing miserably.
This DLC even without the lore raping, even if it wasn't Fallout, it's absolute trash. The design of the ship is terrible. The characters are all one note stereotypes. The shooting is god awful, like the rest of the game. The story is terrible. The new items are RESKINS of old items. There's absolutely nothing of value here and CT Phipps reaches so fucking hard to give any credit to this DLC. He praises it as a "fun shooting gallery". Because Fallout was always about the shooting, right? Oh, wait, no it wasn't.
I criticize for its writing and what it did to the lore, but i can easily list other faults with this DLC (like i did above). When me and others criticize the writing and story, that doesn't delude or cloud us and makes us forget everything else. Those two are just the absolute biggest examples of everything wrong with this game because there are much more than just these.
If this is supposed to be some silly side thing, why does it affect the main canon in such a big way?
This DLC also costed like 10 bucks (probably more) at release. 10 bucks for this.
I don't know where the fuck does this "trying find anything redeemable about Fallout 3" comes from but it's pointless. It doesn't do anything because the game as whole is broken. Finding a tiny piece of gold in a sea of shit is worthless and doesn't do anything to help this game.
It's okay if you don't care about the lore breaking, that's fine. If you want to try find things to praise Fallout 3, fine. But don't try to paint me and several others that think like me as these deluded, raging fanboys that only care about lore. Because when you call us "Lore Nazis" and say "we taking things to seriously", that's what you are doing.
and this just for the title of the thread, I am gathering the courage to read it.
