Can we honestly say Fallout 4 is better than Fallout 3?

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Sn1p3r187, Jan 1, 2016.

  1. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Originally perhaps, then Bethesda probably added in a female.
     
  2. ZigzagPX4

    ZigzagPX4 The Swiftness of the Ranger

    Nov 22, 2015
    Is this kind of drop in the number of people playing the game normal, or is this really good proof of the shortcomings of Fallout 4?
     
  3. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Perhaps, I just think people got bored.
     
  4. Spacemunkey

    Spacemunkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 4, 2015
    A few other things came up in the discussion to support the single gender character, for instance, in BGS Fallout it's the 1950's all day every day and in the Leave it to Beaver universe the dad would never have grabbed JR leaving mom to protect the family from any unknown danger en route to the vault.
     
  5. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    Yeah that felt a little weird to me too. This is what makes the female character feel so tacted on in Fallout 4. But Bethesda has a fetishes for the father/son relationship so it wouldn't surprise me if they made the game for a male protagonist in mind and that the female character was added last minute.
     
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  6. ZigzagPX4

    ZigzagPX4 The Swiftness of the Ranger

    Nov 22, 2015
    Not to mention that there was more effort put into Piper and Curie as a whole compared to all the other companions. This includes both miscellaneous dialogue and romances. I hate to bring up this kind of "social-justice-paranoia" dealies but it's pretty clear who they designed the game to be played as. :seriouslyno:

    And thanks to the character creation system, everyone will call this game out for being "progressive" because you can play as any race and romance any companion regardless of gender, missing the obvious fact of the marriage at the start... :roll:
     
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  7. khain

    khain [X] Sarcastic

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    Dec 3, 2015
    Not forgetting that it's unacceptable that:

    1. You only get to choose ONE gender, where you should be able to pick your genetic one, then the one you identify as.
    2. You should be able to change genders
    3. There should be a dialogue options to remind your interlocutor to use the right pronouns
    4. The same way there's always a choice to be sarcastic, there should always be a choice to tell your interlocutor to check their privilege.
     
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  8. Askorti

    Askorti HATE NEWSPAPERS

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    Jun 30, 2015
    Instead of telling Kellogg that you'll kill him, you should be able to tell him that he is a chauvinist, cis-gendered misogynistic pig and should feel ashamed of himself for being a man.
    Also, I feel offended that the baby is always a boy, instead of a girl or genderfluid child! Also, Father is such a patriarchal name for an authority figure, he should totally have been named mother regardless of gender!
     
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  9. Plzstandbuy

    Plzstandbuy Lonely Drifter

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    Dec 7, 2015
    Fallout 4 is worse then Fallout 3. After Obsidian made new vegas and it's DLC's Fallout 3 had successfully melded into Fallout lore plausibly. The lore had reached a kinda of "equilibrium" and everyone was hopeful that Bethesda would see the error of their ways and use New Vegas as a model for future titles.

    The opposite happened. They completely ignored New Vegas, and actively pursued the things that everyone hated in F3 and Skyrim. And the Bethdrones had to defend their master even though the game was a giant pile of shit. Completely fucked up the lore and had almost no semblance of RPG mechanics left. Just a boring dungeon loot fest with practically the entire map devoted to combat and loot.

    I can see Chris Avellone with a single tear from his eye upon seeing Fallout 4. Its like the Phantom Menace all over again.
     
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  10. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Heh I would rather call it "The Force Awakens" than the "Phantom Menace", a bad reboot of a bad sequel ;) (sorry, I just don't like The Force Awakens that much)

    I think Avellone might find it sad but I don't think he regards Fallout that much as his 'baby', more a project he enjoyed working on.
     
  11. Plzstandbuy

    Plzstandbuy Lonely Drifter

    84
    Dec 7, 2015
    Yeah that works too, and don't worry I too hate TFA and am annoyed that so many people think its good when it's the laziest piece of shit copout in the franchise.

    At least the prequels added interesting worlds to the universe. Trying something different and fucking it up is still better then being a slimey worm and playing it safe. Can't place all blame on Jar Jar Abrams though, its quite likely Disney reps wanted it as safe as possible to sooth share holders.
     
  12. TheGreatCornholio

    TheGreatCornholio First time out of the vault

    96
    Jun 16, 2015
    You didnt think a 3rd death star being blown up by younger more diverse versions of Luke and Han was original?
     
  13. Tom Bishop

    Tom Bishop It Wandered In From the Wastes

    117
    Dec 12, 2015
    You TFA-haters are such Scrooges. Sure the film had flaws, but come on, it wasn't nearly as bad as F4 or the prequels.
     
  14. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Abalutza oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Not even comparable as you say. Star Wars TFA didn't suddenly whore out the franchise to make more money. Thankfully Lucas already did that for them. Haha.
     
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  15. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    And, more importantly, a mother that pays attention to heir diet.



    Sometimes I don't know what Beth is really aiming for. You can do everything, I suppose, except for acting out of your "role". You can eat corpses. But you can not decide to say to people, "screw my son!" You can kill everyone (who's not immortal ...), but you can never decide to become a raider.
     
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  16. fakeangel

    fakeangel First time out of the vault

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    Nov 22, 2015
    Star wars were always mass-marketed cash grabs. The sin of the prequel trilogy was that they were badly-done mass-marketed cash grabs. TFA is not poorly done, so there.
     
  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    What are you smoking :confused:
    Go and watch A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. The original idea of Star Wars was (But not limited to) to pay homage to the space-adventure-storys like Flash Gordon.
     
  18. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    Another thing that adds to Fallout 4 not being better

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    "General, another settlement needs help."



    I wonder whos sick idea it was to put repetitive quests to "Make the wasteland settlements yourself"? Too bad society hasn't progressed much or else you could have Preston arrested for harassment.
     
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  19. TheGreatCornholio

    TheGreatCornholio First time out of the vault

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    Jun 16, 2015
    I wonder whos bright idea it was to have 20 small settlements instead of 2 larger settlements
     
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  20. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    I wonder whos sick idea it was to not make a believable game world with cities, towns, farms, and people living in those places. Instead we have a circus theme park.