Does anyone remember ANY Fallout 3 characters?

Earth said:
"(Science Option) I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WERE A COMPUTER" (how is that a "science" option. sigh.)
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It's one of the consequences of having chosen a higher focus on science!
Choise and Consequence!
True roleplaying!
 
Earth said:
I remember liking Eden's broadcast's more than GNR's :P I was watching a video of the conversation you have with him at the end.
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I sure did enjoy listening to Mr. President's monologues, the patriotic march band music also never gets old, but I did also enjoy listening to Galaxy News Radio which included many classics when music was still well...music. I solemnly refuse to destroy Raven Rock, especially since the signal goes down afterwards.

But yes, I agree. FOR THE ENCLAVE!!!
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Always Faithful :)
 
zegh8578 said:
Earth said:
"(Science Option) I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WERE A COMPUTER" (how is that a "science" option. sigh.)
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It's one of the consequences of having chosen a higher focus on science!
Choise and Consequence!
True roleplaying!
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There were consequences?
 
Yep. High science is one of 3 ways to kill Eden (others being high speech or IC knowledge of Raven Rock's hitsory).

Whether or not Eden is destroyed can shut down Enclave radio, and its also referenced in the Possible Endings.

To OP, I remember Colonel Autumn the most (besides your father and Eden obviously). The scene being helpless and unarmed while he's holding me at gunpoint kind of made an impression.
 
I'm gonna be honest. Colonel Autumn is probably one of the least memorable characters (especially antagonists) I've seen in gaming. There is literally nothing interesting about him other than his accent.
 
Awww. I mostly remember him on account of being the main fight-able villain.

Edit: Off topic, but my fav. (and thus most memorable) char from NV was definitely Col. Cassandra Moore. Probably my favorite in the whole series. (at least for me), it was a shock being told to..........kill off practically every non-NCR faction. I had a high enough speech to negotiate some peace, but I didn't even want to.

I loved that gray image of the NCR where they're 'sort of good guys', at least relatively the best in the region, but they definitely have some rough, jaw dropping sides too.
 
Ekans22 said:
Awww. I mostly remember him on account of being the main fight-able villain.

Edit: Off topic, but my fav. (and thus most memorable) char from NV was definitely Col. Cassandra Moore. Probably my favorite in the whole series. (at least for me), it was a shock being told to..........kill off practically every non-NCR faction. I had a high enough speech to negotiate some peace, but I didn't even want to.

I loved that gray image of the NCR where they're 'sort of good guys', at least relatively the best in the region, but they definitely have some rough, jaw dropping sides too.
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I like the new picture btw. Yeah sorry, it felt a bit mean saying that, but it is true. The guy has virtually no backstory, his character onlyconsisting of "WE'RE ENCLAVE n WE'RE GON KILL ALL U" Apparently the guy has some humanity to him in that he refuses to carry out mass genocide (which isn't much anyway) but honestly, his actions throughout the game really didn't give me that impression. Apart from this "humanity" which we never see, there's really no difference between him and Eden.

I agree, the greyness of the NCR was incredibly refreshing after (not only Fallout 3) a number of games I'd played beforehand of one-dimensional protagonists and antagonists (and hell, even though FONV didn't convey it too well, even Caesar's Legion has some positives to it, at best you can understand it. Obviously they're evil, but at least they're not incomprehensible)

Yeah, the NCR weren't too keen on a number of groups I recall (the BoS better hope you're a good diplomat :lol: )
 
Ekaaannnnz! (not a Pokemon fan, but I love Ekans)

Super Mutant Lt. in FO1 was most memorable for me too. Maybe its just to do with getting imprisoned and tortured (or threatened with torture).

Ceasar had some positives too it, but I'd still mostly put them in morally black and NCR in morally grey. Mostly. Again neat part of NV - its so subjective.

As per BoS, my speech 'was' high enough to spare them. But... I didn't. Col. Moore was just so awesomely intolerant. Maybe, after FO3, I wanted to play a character who was more of a 3/5 (or even 2/5) on the morality scale instead of a flat 5/5 (FO3).

Edit: On 2nd playthrough now for NV, and again, working for NCR. For sake of variety I know I should convince BoS to stay, but I kind of still don't want to :twisted:
 
Yamu said:
It gets better. There's a guy living next to her in another shack whose sole mission in life is to sleaze his way into Nuka Girl's pants via subterfuge (AND everyone in the game recognizes this two-shack collective as a town, but now I'm getting a little off-topic).

Don't know how I forgot about Dukov. He was the only character in the game that did make me laugh, and he was actually semi-plausible: a party-guy mercenary living up his retirement in the wasteland as he chose because he was competent enough to extend his protection to his choice of companions. I didn't like him on a personal level, but he was an actual character, and amusing.
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I think the problem isnt that F3 lacks characters you can remember, but when you think about it, at the end of the day, the quality really isnt that strong.

I have to be fair though. Fallout 1 and 2 might have even less characters that are memorable. But the ones you DO remember have at least a good quality to them. Which includes characters like the Master for example.But honestly, there are simply much better characters out there in books and movies, and when you compare them to the characters you encounter in games, its seems that games today have trouble to achieve the same quality.

One of the few exceptions though, was first Citizen Lynette. She was so well done in my eyes, that HATING her with all your guts, was actually a pleasure.
 
Crni Vuk said:
I think the problem isnt that F3 lacks characters you can remember, but when you think about it, at the end of the day, the quality really isnt that strong.

I have to be fair though. Fallout 1 and 2 might have even less characters that are memorable. But the ones you DO remember have at least a good quality to them. Which includes characters like the Master for example.But honestly, there are simply much better characters out there in books and movies, and when you compare them to the characters you encounter in games, its seems that games today have trouble to achieve the same quality.

One of the few exceptions though, was first Citizen Lynette. She was so well done in my eyes, that HATING her with all your guts, was actually a pleasure.
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<sigh, the way movies and most books are going these days video games are the only medium I've grown to care much for recently. Obviously there's older stuff (I plan to read Moby Dick soon) but video games like New Vegas are the only modern arts I've grown to care about in terms of characters and story. Besides, I like the feeling of being able to interact with these characters, one of the reasons why games are so beautifully revolutionary over films and books (notice how so few have seemed to recognise that?)

It depresses me that gaming has already been taken over by the mainstream, and because of that destroying the quality of most of it. Films and literature were lucky in having a few centuries to take off before money could soil itself on them. Fallout seems like one of the only series I can enjoy on a pure story-telling leveL, but like Final Fantasy before it and others, the growing beauty of this medium's fiction has been squandered already.

Sorry, went on another saddened rant again (gotta stop doing that :roll: )
 
But honestly, there are simply much better characters out there in books and movies, and when you compare them to the characters you encounter in games, its seems that games today have trouble to achieve the same quality.
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I actually found Joker in the Mass Effect series more memorable than Oz in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Not much of a comparison though, other than that both characters are played by the same actor.
 
Earth said:
there's really no difference between him and Eden.
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I can see your reasoning, but I personally believe there is a huge difference. The President remains honorable and loyal to the original plan, Colonel Autumn goes completely against the President's orders, instructing the army to engage the Lone Wanderer (who is carrying the FEV vial) on sight, becoming traitorous to the United States of America. Though I do agree with the Colonel's use of deadly force to motivate cooperation, the fact he attempts to prevent the global eradication of the mutant threat is in fact a declaration of war against all Americans. In my eyes, President John Henry Eden will always remain a hero (even though he isn't exactly human, but furthermore appointed by the United States government), when Colonel Autumn put the great plan in jeopardy and acted in complete opposition to the Commander in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

God Bless the Enclave, God Bless the United States of America.
 
Original plan?
You even realize, that "original" plan wasn't original, but was created by Richardsons cabinet?
Original plan - other planet.
Learn lore.
If one political power estabilsh something within country, this doesn't have to be continued by next governments.

And Eden only shows Enclave hypocrisy, being robot and president at same time, only presenting how his puppet state was needed at time to increase morale. Not even mentioning he haven't ability to abstract thinking, starting civil war during another war with BoS. Derp.
 
Languorous_Maiar said:
Original plan?
You even realize, that "original" plan wasn't original, but was created by Richardsons cabinet?
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Yes I do, I was complementing Eden for following by the Enclave's original plan. Their the same government, simply the ones who survived and yes I do know lore.

The President never started a civil war, that was caused by the Colonel's insurgency.
 
You again said original, and again im gonna said it wasnt original.
You even knows why vaults were build? For original Enclave plans... not for Richardsons plans.

The President never started a civil war, that was caused by the Colonel's insurgency.
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Thats why only robots of Raven Rock were listening to the Eden?
No one human cared about him.
 
Languorous_Maiar said:
You again said original, and again im gonna said it wasnt original.
You even knows why vaults were build? For original Enclave plans... not for Richardsons plans.
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The vaults were built as a massive social experiment project to not only preserve, but to test humanity's character in post-nuclear war isolation. You could go on all day about what your definition of "original" is, but the fact is, the Enclave concluded after significant scientific research carried out by the nation's finest that the surviving populace of the war had not survived in their human form, but had mutated into something entirely else. The President stuck to this plan, when the Colonel compromised, allowing his morals to effect his objectivity. The United States of America deserves the best the nation can provide, compromising the future is not an option. The survival of the mutant infection is futile and therefor is only fit for absolute, complete eradication.

"No one human cared about him."

Really? Sure many soldiers may have had mixed opinions, but they have said "For the President!" numerous times during conflict. Showing that they do show at least some form of loyalty.
 
Really? Sure many soldiers may have had mixed opinions, but they have said "For the President!" numerous times during conflict. Showing that they do show at least some form of loyalty.
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As I said before, it was only puppet to increase morale, and at least it was good at it.
President was symbol and nothing more, and situation in Raven Rock proves that Autumns family rocks at 2277 and not some failed AI.

but the fact is, the Enclave concluded after significant scientific research carried out by the nation's finest that the surviving populace of the war had not survived in their human form
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Man, before talking about Enclave, really, i'm would be very pleased if you could read more about Fallout lore.
They decided to kill all humans, because their original plan about going to another planet was impossible to perform, not because some muties.
They created all "muties" policy only to have proper casus belli to kill everybordy, like nazis did with jews and others ethnic groups.
 
Guys could we not have an argument over the Enclave here? I'm pretty sure EnclaveForever has his own thread people can comment on to discuss the Enclave. I was just asking if people remembered many Fallout 3 characters, because personally I remember very few.

That "there's really no difference between him and Eden" quote was just showing how Bethesda failed in showing Autumn's character in their writing. He's apparently held back by his humanity, but he's still a monster who brutally murders countless people. To me that doesn't add up. Visually he shows just as much restraint as Eden does, but apparently (according to Beth's crap stupid two-faced writing) he doesn't want to commit mass genocide (even when all I saw with Enclave under Autumn control going around murdering people) What I'm getting at is, we never EVER see this humanity Eden mentions
 
That "there's really no difference between him and Eden" quote was just showing how Bethesda failed in showing Autumn's character in their writing. He's apparently held back by his humanity, but he's still a monster who brutally murders countless people. To me that doesn't add up. Visually he shows just as much restraint as Eden does, but apparently (according to Beth's crap stupid two-faced writing) he doesn't want to commit mass genocide (even when all I saw with Enclave under Autumn control going around murdering people) What I'm getting at is, we never EVER see this humanity Eden mentions
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It rather seems like you played Fallout 3 in good way, ignoring all dialogues and story, trying to achieve maximum fps exprience.
You really didn't saw conflict Autumn-Eden? And if you noticed this, you didn't thought what was it origins?
 
The "conflict" was not well communicated, mostly due to limited interaction between the two and because Bethesda just cares about having action set pieces. Autumm just outright kills one of the Project Purity doctors with no hesitation, he kills you when you give him the code, he orders his troops to kill you when the Compuresident tells them not to kill you. The characters in Fallout 3 barely have any consistent character.

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