Fallout 4 coming out on November 10, free mobile spin-off out now

> wake up 200 years later
> I'm looking for my wife, middle-aged woman. Have you seen her?
> plot twist: You're an android
> [Intelligence] So I'm an android and do not age?
> Todd Howard confirmed for Pulitzer Prize 2015
 
The faces look decent at least and the graphics are all pretty nice looking, but the moment I saw those dialogue options I lost interest.
They talked about guns, combat, being able to do tonnes of cool shit and build houses. You know what they didn't mention? Interesting characters. Or companions.

The minecraft aspect is neat I guess, but I get the feeling it'll have no effect on the actual story or game. What I mean is, you can probably build tonnes of houses all over but the most you'll hear about it from the game is: more nameless settlers arrive and nameless raiders occasionally attack.

People were all clapping being able to tell the dog what to do (in an isometric game you could do that anyway)

At least VATS don't completely freeze the game now.

I can't wait to hear from people how amazing that moment seeing the wasteland for the first time was.

Still looks like a remake of Fallout 3 for me. Here's hoping it's at least a halfway decent shooter this time so some superficial entertainment can be got out of it. "I'll (literally only) buy that for a dollar!"
 
Stop trying to infect me with your positivity.

Bro, fuck that. I was coked the fuck out last night, I can dream and infect you with my dreams all I want. This is the best thing that's happened in the last 10 years of videogames dude! We're looking at an authentic development in gameplay! We're looking at Bethesda authentically perfecting their methodology! No more "Radial Dialogue". No more "Infinite Quests". These aren't gimmicks anymore- Bethsoft's gotten past selling gimmicks. They're selling actual CONTENT! fuck, dude...

RangerBoo: trim your quotes.

So the stupid real life Pip-Boy and Iphone games aren't a gimmick?

Todd said it himself. As far as stupid gimmicks go, it is as least well-done.
Most mobile games connected to series suck. They suck bad. I shouldn't have to explain this. We all know it.

This looks to be at least good within the confines of a mobile game. For what it is, it is good. That is all that matters.

Oh right! If the Great Todd Howard says its good then it must be!:V
Seriously though, I am getting a lot of Mass Effect 3 vibes with this game. The stripping of RPG elements to appease and branch out to the the larger casual, dudebro and attention challenged demographic, the stupid gimmicks, ect. This is whats become of AAA title games and it is sad to see the Fallout series become just another soulless cash cow made by people who really don't give a shit about lore or story.
 
Oh right! If the Great Todd Howard says its good then it must be!:V
Seriously though, I am getting a lot of Mass Effect 3 vibes with this game. The stripping of RPG elements to appease and branch out to the the larger casual, dudebro and attention challenged demographic, the stupid gimmicks, ect. This is whats become of AAA title games and it is sad to see the Fallout series become just another soulless cash cow made by people who really don't give a shit about lore or story.

I need you to do me a favor. Big fucking favor.

Stop with the buzzwords. Stop saying "casual", "dudebro", or especially "attention-challenged".

I get it. You think you're a nerd. You're think you're persecuted by the current videogame audience and their attention spans, so you use a bunch of convenient buzz-words to lash back against what you see as an attack on your nerddom and probably your "intellect". I get it.

Cut it out. It's annoying. It gets in the way of actual conversation.

My point is simple. I will have to repeat it, apparently.
Fallout 4 and it's mobile-spin off have potential because they represent Bethesda perfecting their methodology of player freedom. This means that while we might not think these gameplay elements fit into the Fallout world, they still are well-done and deserve merit of their own. What is really important is that Obsidian will be able to fluently implement these elements into a better Fallout game at some point in the future.

Simple, right?
 
Oh right! If the Great Todd Howard says its good then it must be!:V
Seriously though, I am getting a lot of Mass Effect 3 vibes with this game. The stripping of RPG elements to appease and branch out to the the larger casual, dudebro and attention challenged demographic, the stupid gimmicks, ect. This is whats become of AAA title games and it is sad to see the Fallout series become just another soulless cash cow made by people who really don't give a shit about lore or story.

I need you to do me a favor. Big fucking favor.

Stop with the buzzwords. Stop saying "casual", "dudebro", or especially "attention-challenged".

I get it. You think you're a nerd. You're think you're persecuted by the current videogame audience and their attention spans, so you use a bunch of convenient buzz-words to lash back against what you see as an attack on your nerddom and probably your "intellect". I get it.

Cut it out. It's annoying. It gets in the way of actual conversation.

My point is simple. I will have to repeat it, apparently.
Fallout 4 and it's mobile-spin off have potential because they represent Bethesda perfecting their methodology of player freedom. This means that while we might not think these gameplay elements fit into the Fallout world, they still are well-done and deserve merit of their own. What is really important is that Obsidian will be able to fluently implement these elements into a better Fallout game at some point in the future.

Simple, right?

Oh goodie! Then all we have to do is sit back and watch Beth continuing pissing on the lore and add more nonsense. You know I recall a certain other videogame developer doing that, the one Beth is now trying to copy, Bioware, and look how well that turned out for them! :|
 
You see, if they hadn't removed skills and streamlined the dialogue system into an inferior version of Mass Effect I would totally be in on this game, you can actually see my real time change in demeanor in the other thread.
And Beth fanboys tell you to be "grateful", this same people will probably bash the next Resident Evil game because it's popular to pretend you give a shit about franchise legacy with only some of them, Rest of the time they just want to Larp with sploshunz.
 
This means that while we might not think these gameplay elements fit into the Fallout world, they still are well-done and deserve merit of their own.

No.

Are you just pretending to childishly deny everything I just said, or are you seriously doing it?

Oh goodie! Then all we have to do is sit back and watch Beth continuing pissing on the lore and add more nonsense. You know I recall a certain other videogame developer doing that, the one Beth is now trying to copy, Bioware, and look how well that turned out for them!

Not what I said.
Admit it, at this point, we have to deal with Bethesda's version of Fallout being tonally different and different in terms of story and content. Bethesda are not Black Isle; they are not Timothy Cain, they are Bethesda- and whatever they make we have to deal with. Unless, of course, you want to remain pointlessly agitated about Fallout 4 until New Vegas 2 or whateverthefuck comes out. Just like many people continue to be pointlessly agitated about Fallout 3.

What I am saying- and am now repeating for the fourth time- is basically simple: Bethesda has made progress in terms of gameplay. Their story-telling might not fit our ideals based on Fallout 1, 2, or New Vegas, but they have made legitimate progress and that is important and worthy of it's own merit as a thing.

Also, you're making an awful lot of assumptions about the story when we have seen literally nothing about it so far. So I have two points then: Wait to come to conclusions; we have progress (of a sort) and that is a good thing. SIMPLE, right?

Fuck! I am a little coked out still. I wasn't kidding about that. I need to go take a shower and calm down.
 
What I'm actually saying is

>>>>>r/fallout

It's (allegedly) an RPG, I'm going to reserve any and all praise I give to anything they show me until I see what's been written for it and how the overall storyline and dialogue goes.
I don't even particularly like the gameplay of the original two games all that much and yet I'd still say Fallout is probably one of my favourite RPGs ever made. This has nothing to do with whether or not I can build modern hi-power optics out of milk jugs and porno mags or whether or not I can build a house of random bullshit I found lying around or whether or not I can tell some stupid dog (which I seriously intend to shoot as soon as I encounter it) to go fetch twigs for me. Literally none of that crap impresses me, and I highly doubt it was intended to.
 
You see, if they hadn't removed skills and streamlined the dialogue system into an inferior version of Mass Effect I would totally be in on this game, you can actually see my real time change in demeanor in the other thread.
And Beth fanboys tell you to be "grateful", this same people will probably bash the next Resident Evil game because it's popular to pretend you give a shit about franchise legacy with only some of them, Rest of the time they just want to Larp with sploshunz.

This is sadly the future of AAA title games now. It sad to see that the Fallout series fall in line with them. At lest with Mass Effect you can choose your characters back story and history. With Fallout 4 Beth likes "Nope! Your a family man/woman! This is the history we have for your character! Deal with it!":evil: I fucking hate that!
 
What I'm actually saying is

>>>>>r/fallout

It's (allegedly) an RPG, I'm going to reserve any and all praise I give to anything they show me until I see what's been written for it and how the overall storyline and dialogue goes.
I don't even particularly like the gameplay of the original two games all that much and yet I'd still say Fallout is probably one of my favourite RPGs ever made. This has nothing to do with whether or not I can build modern hi-power optics out of milk jugs and porno mags or whether or not I can build a house of random bullshit I found lying around or whether or not I can tell some stupid dog (which I seriously intend to shoot as soon as I encounter it) to go fetch twigs for me. Literally none of that crap impresses me, and I highly doubt it was intended to.

Fair enough. The only thing I could suggest is stop being pointlessly volatile over things like videogames and don't abuse animals even within a videogame because that's unethical- but at that point I'm just telling you to act more like me and less like yourself- assuming getting angry over new videogame mechanics is a genuine part of your character, and not just a "jaded original Fallout fan" thing. IDK, is a crafting system THE worst thing that Bethesda could have done? Hell no. Shit, Obsidian introduced the crafting system, I'm sure J. Sawyer's going to have fun playing with that for the next Fallout game.

Furthermore this is as opposed to having tons of useless scrap items like in Fallout 3/ New Vegas- at least now these objects have a purpose, though maybe they shouldn't be there to start with, but whatever. Shit, making rifle scopes from Nuka-Cola glass actually sounds fun and fascinating to me- a legitimate purpose for all the various waste we have nowadays. It even has ecological overtones, recycling and re-using- in a realistic apocalyptic scenario, I'm sure someone WOULD be looking for microscopes to produce rifle sights and whatnot. Like the archer in The Road with his arrowhead made from an old spoon or a tin can- some old junk finding a legitimate purpose. Makes a lot of sense, even- might add a more solid and legitimate "salvaging from the ruins of the Old World" tone. Or it might be used for comic purposes, but either way Obsidian's going to make it better and it's not going to be that bad to start. It even almost creates a maternal sense of the character and the world- the character is sustained by the world, but only the part of needless, excessive production- all the plastic in the Pacific Ocean comes together to make cheap goods for later generations, or something.

Shit, imagine that, people making surgical tools, weapon enhancements, et cetera- all from scrap. Professional work. Archaeologist's wet dream. "Oh, because the glasses in this scope match the glasses prevalent in soft-drink bottles at the time, we can match this scope to a specific time frame and even popular style". Jesus Christ! This crafting system is fucking fascinating and you're just salty and in denial.

I'm actually going to take a shower now. Goodbye.

Oh one last thing. How does everyone feel about Adam Adamowicz' influence being clearly gone? It depresses me, personally.
 
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"You are having a quiet moment with your dog, then th right song comes in your pipboy and action breaks out, that's what Fallout is"
So, to Howard Fallout is just killing people to the tune of 50's music...... great....

To us, Fallout is a power armored soldier on a deathclaw hitting people with lasers.

If I trusted my GMOD skills, I'd totally make a screenshot of that
Alas, my GMOD doesn't support anti-aliasing, so it would look really bad...

Should find someone that's good at SFM and ask them to make a picture of that
 
Here's my bet for the story. They established a baby. The story will be you discover that your child survived the war and like you was kept in cryo-sleep or whatever for so-so many years. You learn that they've gone out into the world before you. Now you need to go find them.
 
> wake up 200 years later
> I'm looking for my wife, middle-aged woman. Have you seen her?
> plot twist: You're an android
> [Intelligence] So I'm an android and do not age?
> Todd Howard confirmed for Pulitzer Prize 2015

What are you? A prophet? Because I would not be in the slightest surprised if any of this were to happen.
 
THen after finding out you are an android you have to sacrifice yourself to stop the evil villain bad guy from destroying the wasteland with his magic bomb or weapon.
 
> wake up 200 years later
> I'm looking for my wife, middle-aged woman. Have you seen her?
> plot twist: You're an android
> [Intelligence] So I'm an android and do not age?
> Todd Howard confirmed for Pulitzer Prize 2015

What are you? A prophet? Because I would not be in the slightest surprised if any of this were to happen.

shut up, please. Your intellectual persecution is fucking overwhelming. Oh poor you! The only smart man in the sea of the wretched ignorant masses, with their darn millennial technology and this "fast" pacing to videogames! God, you, RangerBoo, you are the last bastion of sanity in a world of the attention-deficit INSANE! You are our LAST HOPE!

See how obnoxious and annoying I am right now? That's how you are every second for me. I kindly asked you to stop; I'm going to kindly ask again.
 
> wake up 200 years later
> I'm looking for my wife, middle-aged woman. Have you seen her?
> plot twist: You're an android
> [Intelligence] So I'm an android and do not age?
> Todd Howard confirmed for Pulitzer Prize 2015

What are you? A prophet? Because I would not be in the slightest surprised if any of this were to happen.

shut up, please. Your intellectual persecution is fucking overwhelming. Oh poor you! The only smart man in the sea of the wretched ignorant masses, with their darn millennial technology and this "fast" pacing to videogames! God, you, RangerBoo, you are the last bastion of sanity in a world of the attention-deficit INSANE! You are our LAST HOPE!

See how obnoxious and annoying I am right now? That's how you are every second for me. I kindly asked you to stop; I'm going to kindly ask again.

Have you not read the other comments? Most have been saying the same thing since Beth is not known for its storytelling capabilities. Hell, think of whatever cliche or trope that you can think of and it will probably be in Fallout 4. Plus you were way more obnoxious long before you started your flame war with me. God forbid anybody have an option that is different from yours!:evil:
 
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