First round of Fallout 4 Reviews

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  1. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Cleary details like ants on a tree stub are more important than story telling, narrative, good quests and writing in an RPG. I mean, imagine all the people that want to role play an entomologist! Or a bone collector in F4!
     
  2. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Me and my settlers just fought a valiant campaign through Boston
    It was a long and glorious campaign of righteous conquest!

    A small message appeared, as often, that a settlement was under attack. I went to save them, and killed 2-3 raiders, before my brave settlers scurried out of the settlement - to locate and exterminate one last raider, that they could not find - and, as I would learn, to cleanse Boston city of all crime and degeneracy!

    Not sure if we ever found him, but it did not matter in the end - because we stormed steadfastly into another group of raiders nearby - since they always are nearby. The settlers threw themselves in heroic combat, and fought through the streets, and not long after they focused their fire on their next attack - a super mutant hold out!

    Fearless my settlers took cover behind pillars, and shot with their home made pistols, as I tagged along, offering what help I could.

    As the day drew towards night, I felt that I had had my fill of blood and warfare for a day, but my settlers... my valiant, brave settlers, they pushed on, through the night, to re-take ALL of Boston, I'm sure of it.
     
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  3. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Dedman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Just beat the game again allied with the Institute. I was expecting a little more information about the faction right up until the end but it never came. I took some notes and now I'll play it one more time more thoroughly, taking more detailed notes in the process, and get to work on that review/rant. It should be pretty interesting because boy do I have a lot to say about this game. I thought I did before but so much more sticks out a second time through.
     
  4. SumsoluS

    SumsoluS The Punchinator

    266
    May 9, 2004
    Is it just me or is the over use of the smiling, thumbs up Vault Boy making everyone with common sense feel sick. It is plastered all over the game. Plastered all over the advertising. Plastered all over MEMEs. Plastered all over Reddit Gaming. It's starting to feel like children's tv advertising.

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  5. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Dedman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Interesting. Just learned that Nuka Cherry was from Tactics and it is also in Fallout 4. Reference perhaps or coincidence?
     
  6. FearMonkey

    FearMonkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 12, 2011
    Wait, I thought Bethesda said they weren't treating Tactics as canon?
     
  7. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Dedman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    It has been referenced in both F3 and F:NV. Semi-canon at the very least.
     
  8. Jubal Quintus

    Jubal Quintus Nacho Friend

    123
    Mar 2, 2007
    Also, the Prydwen in Fallout 4 is a direct reference to the airships in Tactics. At one point someone mentions how the Brotherhood used to have a fleet of them, but they believe that the last crashed out in the Midwest somewhere. So Tactics has been directly referenced in every Beth-Era game on top of the fact that the Fo3 Enclave APA looked a hell of a lot like Midwestern power armor.
     
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  9. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    I feel like I've stumbled into more skeletons than people like...I walk into a bathroom stall..skeleton in the taking a shit pose, walk into a shelter..male skeleton with an arm around a female skeleton, walk into a building..skeletons sitting on a couch stiff as hell with a cigar in ones mouth. That's all they seem to have is this story telling by the environment. Look at the little ants crawling on that tree stump! I think they ran out of ideas or got bored then slapped that in there.
     
  10. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Aaand I'm officially bored by the armors.
    It was cool to begin with, when I thought it would actually go somewhere. It didn't take me long to upgrade my iron armors to high levels, while always "saving" a full set of heavy combat armor for later (save for a right leg. I can't find a heavy combat armor right leg for the fucking life of me, but this is typical whenever I am looking for one particular item... :roll:)

    But whenever I compare, combat armor is weaker than metal armor, despite the fact that they cost more and in simplest forms (light?) are indeed stronger.
    Shouldn't sophisticated polymers beat iron in terms of ballistic protection? Especially in a supposedly over-gratifying fictious world?

    Man, I've been lugging this stupid iron bucket suit around half the game, and now it turns out I am wearing the absolutely best armor in the entire game, and there's nothing else for me to strive for.
    (except for power armors, then again, power armors degrade dissapointingly rapidly. Regular armor stays solid)
    Except the "enclave" armor, which I bet is just-a-little-worse than the rusty T-45 I find in the early gave, that would be hilarious :V
     
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  11. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Dedman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    The T45 armor sucks in Fallout 4. At least they did that right.
     
  12. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Yeah, I've checked the stats, and the X-something armor should be quite good.

    Then again, how pointless, really, I'm L50+, I only got radiant quests left, and the only concievable activity of any purpose that I can do is:
    1. Build on my settlements. What for? Just to pat myself on the shoulder?
    2. Find that elusive enclave armor, one piece at the time.
    I'm re-visiting the Atom Cats often, just to check their shop. So far I've only found the helmet in the Prydwen
    But then what? What exactly am I going to use the best-armor-ever FOR? :D This whole game is about posing, you pose with your armor, and pose with your constructions in your settlements, and show off all the achievements, I'm too old for this... :D

    The way I'm used to it - is that you level - so you can better face your final adversary
    You grind XP and money, to get the best guns and the best armors, because otherwise the final boss will wipe the floor with you

    It feels more and more as if you gain XP and levels - in order to keep up with the raiders and enemies levels, instead of surpassing them

    And all those big guns, big armors, are reduced to just... candy

    There was another location, a radiated one, with tall concrete bricks, forming a wall. For a time, I didn't notice the entrance to there, so I assumed a jet-pack was required to find a way in. I thought "finally! a purpose! the jet-pack serves a purpose!!! incredible!", I even came back much later, totally prepared to delve into deep, radioactive dungeons, spending yet another dose of happy optimism on this lazy-ass game... when will I learn

    Edit, lel, bug alert:
    Among all the essential non-killable people, the woman who can sell you your Diamond City home is not essential, and she is buggedly prone to suicide-by-player-companion during a hostage resque quest (If the mayor manages to harm her, she will go hostile on you, and inevitably get killed by your buddy)

    So, note to self: For the 1000th time, stop trying to be so mature about things. If I see an awesome gun, armor, or house for sale, I should LEAP AT THE OPORTUNITY LIKE A CHILD LEAPS FOR DESERT INSTEAD OF DINNER!

    In other words, buy that damn Diamond City home before the game bugs it away from you.
     
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  13. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Dedman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005


    Why even bother modding it really?
     
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  14. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Hahaha, oh my god, change it back, change it back!
    I'd rather look at those "camoflaging" little key words, at least they give *the impression* of a selection of replies :V

    It's even pointless to parody it
    A) The meet is near the Back Street Apparel building.
    B) The meet is near the Back Street Apparel building.
    C) The meet is near the Back Street Apparel building.
    D) The meet is near the Back Street Apparel building. Let's go.
     
  15. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Dedman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    I can't believe people defend it. I'm having a dispute with someone over at Codex who claims Fallout 4 offers as much choice as the old games. Unbelievable.
     
  16. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I am on the same boat, only quests I have now are Gravy's radiant quests. I have a full set of X-01 PA except for one of the arms. I tried switching to Survival for a while but I think that by the point you reach level 45 it's pretty pointless. Enemies are literary just bullet sponges now but I can soak up as much damage, combat is just tedious and there is a legendary enemy on every corner. Switched back to Hard, at least combat encounters aren't so pointlessly long there....

    Holy shit, that is just.... wow.... a complete parody of itself....
     
  17. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Why play on hard or survival anyway? There has to be a point to it.
    "Hardcore" on New Vegas had an actual point (but was separate from "very difficult", which I consider pointless)

    I'm really not a fan of bullet-sponge gameplay, I'm guessing few others are, but that's why this puzzles me. FO4 is a pain allready on "easy", I'm L58, I got the max upgraded combat rifle, and I have to shoot raiders on average of 3-5 times each to kill them, usually 2 head shots are required, and since I play on PS, I can't aim for shit, so it's all VATS and waiting for those APs to replenish - I can't even imagine playing this on "very hard", where my gameplay would consist of simply pissing bullets into raiders for hours on end, how do you guys do it!?

    I mean, just today - on easy - it took me 20 minutes just to clear enough raiders for me to be able to fast travel the fuck away from where I was, because it was SO fffucking boring, just raiders, raiders, raiders, raiders, raiders, and then gunners, gunners, gunners, gunners, gunners and gunners, then mutants, mutants, mutants, mutants and mutants

    I went out there with 900 .308 rounds, and came back with 400.

    500 bullets spent on ONE area, maybe prodding 2-3 "locations" in that area...

    I mean, I probably killed over a 100 people in a single afternoon...

    (And can the super mutants really afford suicide squads?? Wait, what am I asking, for this to make sense!?)
     
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  18. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    That could be a nice read. I hope the other Codexians are tearing this guy a new one?
     
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  19. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    You want to see a bullet sponge? This is a recording of me fighting this big old bitch took many bullets she did, this was on survival difficulty and it felt like forever trying to kill her since she instakills you. This was before the mod that gives everyone the same damage multiplier(since it's lowered to x0.5 on survival) and it makes the combat tolerable. I can't understand why difficulty means giving the enemies more health and gimping the player damage output by a ton.
     
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  20. SumsoluS

    SumsoluS The Punchinator

    266
    May 9, 2004
    Why has we not moved on from this AI intelligence?

    timestamp 7:38 minutes.

    AI kills himself but he at least makes the player dance around for his life. I see far more intelligent grenade throws in HL1 than in F4.