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You're very perceptive. I had actually changed it to an epilepsy inducing Bob Dylan gif, and had changed it back already. But you are correct. Fixed that little mistake.
 



Aaaaaand.... Scalebound lookd mediocre as fuck. Is this really a Platinum Games game?
 
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Xbox One has nothing of interest to me. Platinum should have chose the PS4.
 
Or PC. Definetly PC.
I hope that Valkyria Chronicles being released on PC and havign such a both positive reception and monstrous purchase number means Sega will start releasing more games on PC, especially now that they own Atlus. Shin Megami Tensei on PC? A man can dream.
 
Or PC. Definetly PC.
I hope that Valkyria Chronicles being released on PC and havign such a both positive reception and monstrous purchase number means Sega will start releasing more games on PC, especially now that they own Atlus. Shin Megami Tensei on PC? A man can dream.

Yeah, Sega has been making some smart moves aside from Sonic fuck ups.

Trying to find a good PS4 deal that doesn't have shit I don't want.
 
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Injured my ankle running today. I'm going through a really depressing and stressful moment in my life right now and I've intensified my physical exercise to help stay positive (I alternate between cardio and lifting every other day) but ended up going a little too hard today, ha. Still feeling good about it though, my heart and lungs have never felt better and I've been gaining a fair amount of muscle mass, so it's alright.
 
I hope you at least got better depression and stress-wise.

Pardon my curiosity, but how do people actually enjoy exercise? I always found it to be excrutiating, how much does one have to exercise to get a kick out of it?
 
I hope you at least got better depression and stress-wise.

Pardon my curiosity, but how do people actually enjoy exercise? I always found it to be excrutiating, how much does one have to exercise to get a kick out of it?
You eventually make it a habit so that it feels odd not to exercise. You get a little rush from it as well. At first you'll have to keep reminding yourself of why you're doing it, which is different for everyone - maybe you want to compete in sports, maybe you want to be healthy so you can live longer, maybe you want to get laid or maybe you just want to feel better about yourself. Part of it is about discipline - not if you particularly enjoy doing squats, deadlifts, benching, or running, it's the fact that it must be done if you want to be strong, healthy, attractive, etc.

Of course, it's excruciating especially in the beggining. You do feel really good after you work out, though, but that's why it's called working out - if you didn't have to put in the effort to get that satisfaction, it would just be called sex. The soreness stops being an issue after the first few workouts when your body gets used to the routine.

But to me and a lot of people, there's a lot more to it than the good physical feeling you get after working out. Sometimes I hate lugging myself to the gym, I hate the idea of getting off my couch to work out, but if I can just get past that initial disinterest, I feel great and I am glad I did it. I'm glad because every time I go and improve on the weights lifted in some way I'm actively improving myself. It's a constant competition with myself, and I'm constantly winning. Yeah, sometimes I have to force myself to do it. But I look better, I have more presence in a room, I have more confidence talking to other people, I can more easily do day-to-day stuff like lifting furniture or washing my car... there's the benefits you get from working out, and eventually you'll see that trumps whatever you feel about the act of working out, itself. Sure, you get hormonal release, you spend energy and you feel good afterwards... but the best part to me is measurable progress and accomplishments it brings to my life.

So I enjoy working out, but even if I didn't enjoy it, I would still do it with the same insistence. Like Muhammad Ali said: "I hated every minute of training, but I said, 'Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'"
 
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But Ali got something out of it. What does the average Joe get? Other than women, I suppose, but any woman who is likely to choose a sexual partner based on his muscle mass isn't one I'm likely to procreate with, so that one goes out the window. But it is practical though, to a point. What bothers me about it is that I can't get over the general petit-bourgois feeling I get from those gyms and the like. I like the idea of being healthier, living longer and the like, but is there a way for it to be achieved through more productive means, in an agricultural envrionment? Otherwise, all the energy put into it feels wasted.
 
But Ali got something out of it. What does the average Joe get? Other than women, I suppose, but any woman who is likely to choose a sexual partner based on his muscle mass isn't one I'm likely to procreate with, so that one goes out the window. But it is practical though, to a point. What bothers me about it is that I can't get over the general petit-bourgois feeling I get from those gyms and the like. I like the idea of being healthier, living longer and the like, but is there a way for it to be achieved through more productive means, in an agricultural envrionment? Otherwise, all the energy put into it feels wasted.
The average Joe feels better throught his day, he has an easier time getting into sports if he wants to, he can speak with more confidence at his job, he has more respect from his friends, he knows for sure he will have to deal with far less diseases and health issues than his peers... it would be excessively big headed to deny the average person doesn't get benefits from exercise, and a 2 minute conversation with literally anybody who works out regularly will prove that. Now if you don't want to work out in the traditional combination of going to the gym and having a planned diet, it's also 100% possible to be fit without that. Go for a jog every morning. Don't eat junk food. Replace the more carb-intensive foods in your diet with vegetables or high protein meats like chicken. Do some push-ups whenever you're at home doing nothing, or when you're playing a game and there's a loading screen, etc. Take the stairs instead of elevators. Buy a set of dumbbells and lift for 30 minutes every other day.

Honestly, it's not hard to live a healthy life. During my teenage years I didn't step into a gym once, but I managed to eventually improve a lot just doing those things. Mind that you're not going to gain a lot of muscle mass or lose significant amounts of weight fast doing that - for those things, you'd need to plan your diet a little more or put more effort into your exercise. But for average goals, it's totally possible to make gains without much effort, so long as you commit to your habits.
 
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It's the discipline bit that interests me the most. I used to have discipline, but it was more in the form of not doing things than in doing things. I guess I'm just looking for a replacement for the feeling of overcoming oneself. If only physical exercise was as Arnie would describe it:

 
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It's the discipline bit that interests me the most. I used to have discipline, but it was more in the form of not doing things than in doing things. I guess I'm just looking for a replacement for the feeling of overcoming oneself. If only physical exercise was as Arnie would describe it:



It's not too far off, though. A good workout releases a ton of endorphins, and when you start making progress (or "all kiiiinds of gaaaaiiiiiiinzz", as the people in the gym say) it really motivates you.
 
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Pardon my curiosity, but how do people actually enjoy exercise? I always found it to be [excruciating], how much does one have to exercise to get a kick out of it?
But Ali got something out of it. What does the average Joe get? Other than women, I suppose, but any woman who is likely to choose a sexual partner based on his muscle mass isn't one I'm likely to procreate with, so that one goes out the window. But it is practical though, to a point. What bothers me about it is that I can't get over the general petit-bourgois feeling I get from those gyms and the like. I like the idea of being healthier, living longer and the like, but is there a way for it to be achieved through more productive means, in an agricultural envrionment? Otherwise, all the energy put into it feels wasted.
The short answer is "it varies from person to person".

The long answer...

From a biological standpoint, our brains secrete endorphines after physical activity, both to help our bodies cope with the stress of the act, as well as to positively reinforce an evolutionary-vital task. Just like we can become addicted to spicy foods because of the endorphine rush that follows, people can easily grow to enjoy exercise because of the chemical aspect of the activity. You experience muscle fatigue and physical pain, sure, but you also get a HUGE natural high from the chemical composition you're actively creating by participating in the act.

Psychologically and socially, there are other reasons. While I would agree that I wouldn't take a LIKING to a woman who's more impressed with me based on my appearance, it doesn't really have any bearing on the matter at all. People are attracted based on PHYSICAL cues, nothing more. We grow to like and appreciate one another based on mannerisms and personality, but that all starts with physical observations, and few things can hedge your bets in "winning that lottery" than physical activity. Despite what some artists may say, there IS a relatively universal physical ideal, and we're all attracted to it. Some sexually, some just appreciatively. A straight man can see a ripped man and recognize the latter is "sexy" without feeling aroused, after all. It's just simple recognition.

But one point that is HARDLY ever explained in social contexts in that visual representations are often the product of hard work and effort, attractive behaviors. I personally find certain fashions are hard to deal with as the recipient of clothing to be worn, but as a consequence of focusing SOLELY on personal comfort, my image is lacking, because it's generic as a result. If my personal ethic in terms of effort put forth in my image is not extraordinary, then I look ordinary. By definition, I don't stand out by my lifestyle choice. If, on the other hand, I put forth that effort, I "suffer" the discomfort of this pair of shoes or that suit or that fabric, I "suffer" to pain of soreness and fatigue due to working out, I'm elevating my personal standard to well above the average around me. As a result, I stand out and above the rest, because I put the effort into my appearance. It may all seem very shallow and superfluous, and I won't argue that it isn't, but there is a great deal of logic and relevance to it. Besides, taking the time and effort to work out DOES NOT turn you into a mentally stymied brute, if you are already smart and charming. It just turns you into a physically attractive AND smart and charming guy! =)

So, as SCRH expressed, once you get over that hurdle of making it into a routine you cannot do without, it really becomes a habit you can't do without, and not JUST because you turned it into your routine. When I got sick and I stopped working out, I fell into an emotional slump, because I was "giving up" on a very productive activity. When I injured my ankle (fist bump for sprained ankle bros, SCRB?) and couldn't go on my walks, it likewise seriously bummed me out. It's a MAJOR obstacle to overcome these setbacks and get back into a productive routine, but it's all for my own personal benefit, so I'm okay with that. After all, is sitting on my ass and eating everything in sight REALLY good for me? In the extremely short term, it FEELS good, but in not too long, my stomach's going to be complaining, and my body's going to degrade, and I'll ache and tired so easily that I can't enjoy ANYTHING! Lot's of suffering for a little bit of casual enjoyment clearly isn't as good for my benefit as lot's of enjoyment for a little bit of suffering.

There's more, but I think I'll stop at that point, for now.
 
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