It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down.

[TorontoReign]

Take a look at their Bioware section.

 

[Ilosar]

I'm a codexer, fall under the alias CrawlingDead. I like it. I think most people get the false impression that everything is to be taken literally there. There are a lot of great posts, most of which aren't meant to be taken literally. You got to have thick-skin, which is why Bethfans stay away. They piss on the site because they think everyone there has some intense hatred for Bethesda titles -- no, they just don't have a problem treating their games like shit and joking about it.

That's fine, but personally I don't want to have to differenciate between the shitposting and the serious threads all the time. I don't find it cool to be almost constantly negative for the sheer lulz of it. And I do feel that some posters there actually do have an intense hatred of, if not Bethesda on its own, then at least modern RPG studios and/or design tropes. As in, irrationally so, not just disliking what they do which is fine.

I'm not sure it's an issue of thick skin or not. I frequent Blizzard forums from time to the time, they're no picnic either. I just find that everytime I even try to lurk the Codex I run out of patience after less than an hour for a variety of reasons.

Well, with respect, most modern AAA RPG's are shallow as shit and rather mediocre. Mass Effect and Dragon Age included. Games like Age of Decadence and Underrail are all but unheard of in mainstream gaming press and Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 are heralded as the best RPG's released this year more or less. They might express their disliking of things in a manner which offends/annoys people, but I think they are on point about several things.

Depends what you're looking for, really. I fully admit than Dungeons and Dragon's ruleset is way deeper than what Dragon Age offers, but on the other hand I dislike Vancian magic, hate magical protections that require specific spells to counter, hate the save or die gimmicks, hate THAC0 and hate time-sinking BS like ''permadeath'' that can be countered with spells or by paying a stipend. So I have more fun playing Dragon Age than Baldur's Gate or *shudders* Icewind Dale, albeit I prefer playing Pillars of Eternity (or hell, classic Fallouts) over both. And since the point of me playing a game is having fun, I couldn't honestly care less if the systems I prefer are dumbed down or whichever terminology is cool to say.

I simply don't see the need, or even fun, of acting like a dick about one's preferences.

 

[Crni Vuk]

I'm a codexer, fall under the alias CrawlingDead. I like it. I think most people get the false impression that everything is to be taken literally there. There are a lot of great posts, most of which aren't meant to be taken literally. You got to have thick-skin, which is why Bethfans stay away. They piss on the site because they think everyone there has some intense hatred for Bethesda titles -- no, they just don't have a problem treating their games like shit and joking about it.

Is Volourn still active? Reading her ... comments is like reading pure poetry. I swear. Half of the time I don't even know if she (it?) is actually serious, or actually trolling everyone

By the way, reading Twinks, VDs and some of BNs tantrums - when they still used to post there regularly, managed to help me overcome more than just one boring evening!

 

[RangerBoo]

My feelings on the Codex are mixed but what I have noticed is that there are a lot of trolls that go there just to shitpost and boy does the Codex attract some of the worst trolls I've ever seen that isn't from YouTube. Either the Codexer have a a very high patience and tolerance for those people or they are masochist. Either way they have some of my respect for being able to humor those trolls on a daily basis.

Is Volourn still active? Reading her ... comments is like reading pure poetry. I swear. Half of the time I don't even know if she (it?) is actually serious, or actually trolling everyone

By the way, reading Twinks, VDs and some of BNs tantrums - when they still used to post there regularly, managed to help me overcome more than just one boring evening!

Nothing can beat Mastermind for the sheer level of stupid that troll post. Its sometimes fun reading the more unhinged Beth trolls(and there are many) trying to poke a angry sleeping bear and have it all fall on their face. Or maybe face ripped off would be a better analogy.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Trolls, what can you do?

 

[Mr Fish]

Is there any part of Fallout 4 you guys genuinely enjoy and how much do you enjoy it?

 

[Dr Fallout]

Is there any part of Fallout 4 you guys genuinely enjoy and how much do you enjoy it?

...

No comment.

 

[Mr Fish]

Is there any part of Fallout 4 you guys genuinely enjoy and how much do you enjoy it?

...

No comment.

There's gotta be something. It can't possibly be completely irredeemable can it? I mean, did they at the very least have some funny jokes and easter eggs? Was there a set-piece or event that was well done (even if it was just some action piece trying to be cool)? Is the Glowing Sea at the very least atmospheric to go through?

 

[Dr Fallout]

Is there any part of Fallout 4 you guys genuinely enjoy and how much do you enjoy it?

...

No comment.

There's gotta be something. It can't possibly be completely irredeemable can it? I mean, did they at the very least have some funny jokes and easter eggs? Was there a set-piece or event that was well done (even if it was just some action piece trying to be cool)? Is the Glowing Sea at the very least atmospheric to go through?

Umm, the environmental story telling was sometimes good?

 

[Theinnerfish]

There's gotta be something. It can't possibly be completely irredeemable can it? I mean, did they at the very least have some funny jokes and easter eggs? Was there a set-piece or event that was well done (even if it was just some action piece trying to be cool)? Is the Glowing Sea at the very least atmospheric to go through?

Well someone made this video with Fallout 4. It's something, i guess?

 

[Dr Fallout]

There's gotta be something. It can't possibly be completely irredeemable can it? I mean, did they at the very least have some funny jokes and easter eggs? Was there a set-piece or event that was well done (even if it was just some action piece trying to be cool)? Is the Glowing Sea at the very least atmospheric to go through?

Well someone made this video with Fallout 4. It's something, i guess?

I don't know how to play Fallout 4...

 

[Crni Vuk]

I don't want to know how to play Fallout 4

 

[RedRockRun]

I'm having fun...

-sobs in corner-

Meh, maybe I just enjoy shooting stuff and feeding my OCDemons by searching every inch of every building I walk into? I do however acknowledge the fact that this is a Bethesda game rather than a proper Fallout title. Yes, I have played all the previous titles, excluding Tactics and BoS.

 

[Theinnerfish]

Kill anything moves. There, you just learned how to play F4.

 

[Dr Fallout]

I'm having fun...

-sobs in corner-

Meh, maybe I just enjoy shooting stuff and feeding my OCDemons by searching every inch of every building I walk into? I do however acknowledge the fact that this is a Bethesda game rather than a proper Fallout title. Yes, I have played all the previous titles, excluding Tactics and BoS.

Enjoying it isn't the problem, calling it a good game is.

 

[zegh8578]

I'm having fun...

-sobs in corner-

Meh, maybe I just enjoy shooting stuff and feeding my OCDemons by searching every inch of every building I walk into? I do however acknowledge the fact that this is a Bethesda game rather than a proper Fallout title. Yes, I have played all the previous titles, excluding Tactics and BoS.

Just to throw it out there - I hope you're not deliberately abstaining from Tactics, because it's actually a cool game. Back before FO3 existed, I guess it was treated more harshly, but by now, those mild lore-breaks it was guilty of are just peanuts...
(The most significant lore-breaks were the "Vault 0"-angle, as well as the midwest chapter of BoS, depicted as harshly militaristic and expansionist, contrasting their stablished isolationalist attitudes)

It has a nice flowing gameplay, and visually it still looks like my dream-version of a Fallout 3
I also kind of liked playing as a soldier in a less-than-good organization for a change, chanting recognizeable "freedom"-chants, while stepping over every poor bastard in our way

 

[RedRockRun]

Just to throw it out there - I hope you're not deliberately abstaining from Tactics, because it's actually a cool game. Back before FO3 existed, I guess it was treated more harshly, but by now, those mild lore-breaks it was guilty of are just peanuts...
(The most significant lore-breaks were the "Vault 0"-angle, as well as the midwest chapter of BoS, depicted as harshly militaristic and expansionist, contrasting their stablished isolationalist attitudes)

It has a nice flowing gameplay, and visually it still looks like my dream-version of a Fallout 3
I also kind of liked playing as a soldier in a less-than-good organization for a change, chanting recognizeable "freedom"-chants, while stepping over every poor bastard in our way

No, it's nothing deliberate. I just never really got to playing it. I suppose I will at some point, as I do really enjoy tactical games.

Enjoying it isn't the problem, calling it a good game is.

I don't see why I can't call it a good game. I won't call it a good Fallout game because it takes too many liberties - like a pizza with goat cheese, but if I happen to enjoy goat cheese (I don't) melted over sauce and baked dough, I'll still call it good food; I just won't call it good pizza. Maybe I'll call FO4 an okay game or a game that holds my attention despite some pretty bad flaws. The last thing I'll do though is call it a worthy Fallout title. In my mind, the order goes FO1, 2, and NV. 3 and 4 are off in East Coast Todd Howard fanfic land.

 

[Askorti]

Is there any part of Fallout 4 you guys genuinely enjoy and how much do you enjoy it?

...

No comment.

There's gotta be something. It can't possibly be completely irredeemable can it? I mean, did they at the very least have some funny jokes and easter eggs? Was there a set-piece or event that was well done (even if it was just some action piece trying to be cool)? Is the Glowing Sea at the very least atmospheric to go through?

Shooting stuff is relatively fun. But that's not exactly what I play fallout games for. Or what I used to play Fallout games for at least.
But then there is a very limited selection of guns that makes shooting stuff less fun so... Even its "strong" points are not all that strong.

 

[random234]

Dude you are the one who is going around and twisting facts in order to have them fit your beliefs and personally attacking and insulting people here. You are nothing but a irrational fanboy who we have tolerated long enough. You maybe the biggest idiot and blowhard I have ever come across on here.

>Pointing out that 3 games have shown ghouls alive, in areas that are without food, and that have been locked for 200 years, is twisting facts.
>Pointing out that ghouls are known to be healed by radiation is twisting facts.
>Pointing out that the fridge has a gap for him to breathe is twisting facts.
>Pointing out that ghouls in both Fallout 2 and New Vegas are shown to not really understand how their own bodies work, despite being ghouls for 160-200 years, is twisting facts.
>Pointing out that this lack of knowledge could very easily had led to their deaths in Fallout 1 is twisting facts.
>Pointing out that the gap in the fridge would have realistically let water in for him to drink is twisting facts.
Yep, so many facts being twists.

A) Ugh... they die of dehydration. This isn't said by some biased nobody, it's said by an impartial narrator, who knows what he says. Ghouls need water, why else did Set and the ghouls keep saying how important the water chip is? It says they died of DEHYDRATION so they died of DEHYDRATION, or is that too smart for you?

And again, you can die of dehydration, but not need water to live. Many things, both living and not, can sustain themselves through alternate sources of energy, and not knowing that you can sustain yourself some other way can lead to death.

Ghouls are quasi-immortal beings, who have been shown to be able to have their limbs be severed, and then put back on and healed back to normal in no time, because of the regenerative powers their mutations give them. The idea that a ghoul body couldn't constantly repair itself via radiation exposure flies in the face of every Fallout game.

As a biologist i can assure you that there is no organism on this world who can survive without water. There are life forms which can sustain themselves on metabolic water picked up from the air but that is not the same as not needing any water. Again all life forms need water especially since DNA only folds correctly in aqueous solutions. Also what alternate forms of energy are you blabbering about? There are photo, litho and autothrophic organisms in our world, all boiling down to some form of energy retrieval from some kind of energy source, but none of these organisms can forego water intake because of its chosen form of energy retrieval. So please at least know what you are talking about before trying to use it in an argument. The collective intelligence of the people using this forum was attacked enough by fallout 3 and 4, no need to add to that anymore.
Also I am not autistic, dyslexic and yes english is not my first language, special congratulations for using mental conditions and being a foreigner as valid reasons to dismiss arguments though.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Dude, Someguy is like a steamroller. Such a little detail like logic and knowledge by a professional? Those aren't going to stop him!