Secret of Prometheus

Like I said, depressing. I wonder who those people are - they must be very, very dull-witted. The Michael Bay audience, I guess.
 
Well, the bad character writting is not Scott's fault.
One of the writters is a guy from Lost, that explains a lot.

And the other wrote this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darkest_Hour_(film)

Highlight of the article: The Darkest Hour was not screened for critics, but received mostly negative reviews. The film was criticized for having a "flatlining screenplay and the absence of even a single compelling character" as well as for being "a depressing failure of imagination".

Huh.
 
Jebus said:
In most of Scott's movies, I find at least one or two people whom I can form a connection to, and hence not root for the 'bad guys' to win. This movie is, however, the absolute nadir when it comes to character writing. Never have I seen a movie where I hated each and every one of the protagonists ('cept maybe the cyborg) so thouroughly.
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Hmm...I've seen much worse movies as far as that goes. Cloverfield, the last ten years of Michael Bay's career, Independence Day, etc. It's a valid criticism though. Most of the characters are dead weight. David is the obvious exception. There's no one else who can measure up to, say, Ellen Ripley.
 
David really isn't an exception, as he's a cliche, and had no apparent motivation other than lazy writing and leaning on other movies
 
UniversalWolf said:
Jebus said:
In most of Scott's movies, I find at least one or two people whom I can form a connection to, and hence not root for the 'bad guys' to win. This movie is, however, the absolute nadir when it comes to character writing. Never have I seen a movie where I hated each and every one of the protagonists ('cept maybe the cyborg) so thouroughly.
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Hmm...I've seen much worse movies as far as that goes. Cloverfield, the last ten years of Michael Bay's career, Independence Day, etc. It's a valid criticism though. Most of the characters are dead weight. David is the obvious exception. There's no one else who can measure up to, say, Ellen Ripley.
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Meh, those are bad, but I wouldn't call those worse. I can't remember the characters from Cloverfield (which says enough, but at least I didn't hate them), Michael Bay's characters at least don't try to be 'deep', and Independence Day featured Will Smith and Will Smith is so damn likeable I'd root for him even if he played Hitler.

The thing is, if you're going to be writing characters that are all scientists, and write a science-based movie, you should do at least a wee bit of effort in finding out how science works at its most basic level. If he'd replaced the ship of scientists with a ship of, say, lost tourists the movie might've been slightly believeable. As it is, though, it's an insult to everybody's intelligence.
 
Walpknut said:
Well, the bad character writting is not Scott's fault.
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The director is like the captain of a ship. It's not like somebody held a gun to Scott's head and forced him to film garbage.
 
I agree with max, but let's bear in mind the subject of the thread is the secret of prometheus, not Ridley Scott, so no need to gey all defensive
 
eom said:
David really isn't an exception, as he's a cliche, and had no apparent motivation other than lazy writing and leaning on other movies
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A cliche meaning the exact same character has been used so many times it's lost it's original meaning? I don't think he qualifies for that description at all. He may be awash in a sea of cliches though.
 
I notice a lot of the comments here are based on having zero knowledge of how movies are made or make it to the screen.

It's basically a huge crapshoot and the odds that any movie ends up being good or worth watching are smaller than you winning the lottery.

In fact, I'll go further and say that any movie not being crap is a minor miracle, in and of itself.
 
true enough, just looking at the making ofs from Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 shows how many times the directors have been fucked over by the studios (and vice versa). To just say this. Alien 3 had like I don't know 7 scripts or even more when they started filming the movie ... the original director left the project in mid production because the studio didn't wanted to realise his "wooden planet" idea (yes you heard right a planet with a wooden core ... or something like that). Then they got Fincher. I think for anyone who is knowing the story behind it he can without exaggeration claim that Fincher saved the whole project. He deserves a lot of respect in my eyes. But he had so many issues with the studio that he even refused later to give any comment in the interviews for the specials on the DVD - every other director did. Because there was nothing positive Fincher could say about the work with the studio.
 
DammitBoy said:
...doesn't even touch the tip of the iceberg of all the things that have to happen for a movie to not suck.
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Yeah, it's true, which is why we get stuck with Adam Sandler, sequels of sequels, and comic book McMovies. They have a pre-existing audience to guarantee a certain level of return on investment whether the end result ends up being good or bad. It's solid business, but lousy artistry.

I heard James Cameron is making three Avatar sequels simultaneously. :roll:
 
DammitBoy said:
Crni Vuk said:
yadda, yadda, yadda.
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I'm sure that's true, but it doesn't even touch the tip of the iceberg of all the things that have to happen for a movie to not suck.
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Which is why I quit going to the movies a long time ago.

Lolwtf wooden planet
 
Crni Vuk said:
the original director left the project in mid production because the studio didn't wanted to realise his "wooden planet" idea (yes you heard right a planet with a wooden core ... or something like that).
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Haha, holy fuck. A wooden core? I'm sure they were sorry to see him go!
 
Three Avatar sequels? I'm vomiting. The last one will be 4 hours of explosions and cock-sure fly-bys. :oops:
 
DammitBoy said:
I'm sure that's true, but it doesn't even touch the tip of the iceberg of all the things that have to happen for a movie to not suck.
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DammitBoy what do you think of Woody Allen as a film maker?
 
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