DammitBoy said:
Guess when you have swallowed enough tripe you easily fall for anything that pretends to be deeper than it truly is.
Secret of Prometheus
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Guess when you have swallowed enough tripe you easily fall for anything that pretends to be deeper than it truly is.
DammitBoy said:
Huge potential in Prometheus. So much for sure. It feels like the beginning of Lost. But I really really hope they don't fuck it up like in Lost then. If they will do a Sequel. Which I am sure they will.
The Dutch Ghost said:
Or maybe it is deeper, but it is you that cannot discern that depth? Kind of like Dak'kon-Sigil.
Tagaziel said:
Don't go there Tagz, you can make up all kinds of bullshit of why something is more deeper than other people claim it to be but in the end its still your own opinion and not what we saw on the screen.
though many of the complains about Prometheus seem to come from "to many unsolved questions!" issue.
But I think one should make a difference between illogical issues (like the behaviour from the two lost scientists) which every movie probably has and just questions which the movie leaves unsanwered. The last part has not to be necessarily a bad thing.
And here I will mention it again. Already Alien had tons of unsolved questions and mysteries inside. It seems people should watch that movie again some time.
But I think one should make a difference between illogical issues (like the behaviour from the two lost scientists) which every movie probably has and just questions which the movie leaves unsanwered. The last part has not to be necessarily a bad thing.
And here I will mention it again. Already Alien had tons of unsolved questions and mysteries inside. It seems people should watch that movie again some time.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
My complains are about how the script is a huge turd, not the unsolved questions, wich I don't think are even that interesting, I really feel no curiosity about the Albino Bodybuilders, at all, but that would just be me getting spitefull about the whole thing.
Well it indeed solved the question of Why in hell a creature as horrible as the Xenomorph could ever exist, They are Bioweapons, guess it makes sense.
Well it indeed solved the question of Why in hell a creature as horrible as the Xenomorph could ever exist, They are Bioweapons, guess it makes sense.
Walpknut said:
don't you think that's a kind of shitty and inefficient bioweapon?
I know that's a popular theory for some reason, but does that make any kind of sense, and where's the evidence for that?
wouldn't disease make a better bioweapon?
I mean, unless you're waging war against some chick in a spaceship, abandoned warehouse, or whatever.
in which case, gun probably works just about as well.
I haven't seen any complaints about 'unsolved mysteries', but rather crap writing and characters, so I have no idea where idea comes from.
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eom said:
Everyone knows that the aliens were simply prey for the Predators to test their young hunters with. I thought this was common knowledge?
Crni Vuk said:
funny you should suggest that, as I d/l'd it today and am watching it right now.
the first 20 min makes me re-evaluate my opinion of prometheus.
I would downgrade it from pointless waste of time and money to complete crap.
looked good, though.
the funny thing is, alien even makes 70s future tech awesome.
DammitBoy said:
I think the sequels have already been out there for about 30 years.
The Dutch Ghost said:
Don't use "we". It's a crutch to support a weak argument. There is no "we". There is only "you" and what "you" saw. As such, it's entirely your own opinion. Not objective fact, as you try to push it.
Hey prometheus might be the biggest pile of turd ever released.eom said:
But I just doubt it. The Cinematics alone don't make this look THAT bad.
Sure. It definitely will not even touch the first movies. But I never expected that in the first place. I even don't see Prometheus really as "canon" in that regard. The Alien movies stoped for me after Alien 3. They had a start and ending. And it was a great journey. The rest was pure milking - not that the other movies have not but still.
So it might be better to see Prometheus simply as Sci Fi movie. And I have to say the numbers of horror-sci-fi has been very very low. Good ones to say that. The last decade saw only crap here.
*Shrugs* I still dont have a final opinion on Prometheus though as I have not seen it yet. But I still remain optimistic.
I mean seriously ... after the AvP turd movies I am happy to have at least something serious for once.
Also I would be really curious to hear what Scott has to say about the criticism.
Crni Vuk said:
looooooool the guy posting the most opinions in this thread hasn't even seen the movie.
so far, the 2 people who liked the movie are a guy who hasn't seen it, and db, who went to see battleship, expecting to like it.
I doubt scott gives a shit about any criticism -- if he doesn't like it he probably just wads up thousand dollar bills and stuffs them in his ears.
dude, I saw so many spoilers now and parts on you tube that I almost saw half of it - the important parts at least. And it is really not hard to find informations about the artistic side of Prometheus in other words the "look".
Does it mean I "know" the movie? Probably not. As said. I have not seen it yet. Blame Germany for it because the movie starts here on the 9th of August ...
Anyway. What do you mean only 2 people? Is NMA the end of the world or what? There are enough here which have neither a positive nor negative feeling regarding Prometheus. It seems reviews outside of NMA seem to be positive AND negative.
I really tend to form my own opinion after watching something. And I am positive with the movie I have NOT said that I "like" it though I do read the opinions of people here carefully. You also realize that I agree with some of the criticism as well. And that I have some criticism on my own. Like the look of the engineer which I really hate. But that is more just aesthetics.
Does it mean I "know" the movie? Probably not. As said. I have not seen it yet. Blame Germany for it because the movie starts here on the 9th of August ...
Anyway. What do you mean only 2 people? Is NMA the end of the world or what? There are enough here which have neither a positive nor negative feeling regarding Prometheus. It seems reviews outside of NMA seem to be positive AND negative.
I really tend to form my own opinion after watching something. And I am positive with the movie I have NOT said that I "like" it though I do read the opinions of people here carefully. You also realize that I agree with some of the criticism as well. And that I have some criticism on my own. Like the look of the engineer which I really hate. But that is more just aesthetics.
Tagaziel said:
If you want to go this route with the argument Tagz, hitting on semantics, the same goes for your theory.
Just because you claim there is a greater deepness that seems to escape me, doesn't mean there is one.
There is one thing about there being one, and another about trying to claim there is one because you got the feeling and now seek to defend it.
Actually its pretty effective as in a sense the xenomorphs are like a disease but designed to be far more interspecies compatible.
Micro organisms that can make use of a host in order to survive and reproduce require a degree of genetic compatibility, depending on having evolved in the same environments as the hosts.
The problem is that if you want to attack another host, especially one of a possible different biochemistry that the virus is barely to not at all effective, giving such as host perhaps just its equivalent of a fever.
The benefit with the xenomorphs so far is that it doesn't matter what type of species or chemistry a host is as long as matches certain physical requirements for it to be 'impregnated'.
The goal of a bioweapon is also that it is able to reproduce and spread before the original host is killed, get a virus that is to lethal and the host dies before it gets to mingle enough with the rest of its species and the virus either dies with it or remains contained to just a few corpses.
By then if the hosts are 'smart' or intelligent they will stay away from these individuals as they know something unknown killed them they can't see.
The xenomorph solves this problem as it does not require a host to help it spread, just to gestate it after which it goes out to kill other nearby organisms, and if we treat Alien as canon turn other potential hosts into new eggs that can gestate new xenomorphs into maturity.
The eggs themselves also make use of instincts most advanced lifeforms have; curiosity.
Humans and animals tend to be drawn to things that stick out of the environment, be it native or unusual.
Perhaps it comes from the instinct to see if something is a threat, edible or a possible mate (sorry for giving you readers that disturbing thought but I try to look at it from the point of a biologist).
Of course some humans have 'developed' common sense, knowing fully well not to go near the strange pod like that seems like an organic leather sack, but tell that to something that is similar to a cow, or humans who let instinct decide their actions instead of reason.
It only takes one creature being infected to give rise to a xenomorph if it manages to gestate before the infected host is discovered and either operated on or destroyed.
From there the process runs itself.
We can assume that the Pilots or Engineers have something to keep them either in check such as the device suggested in AVP2's expansion pack, or an organism like the black mold that can kill hives from the inside that was mentioned in one of the Aliens comics.
Sorry but that is something the comics, games and AVP movies made up and I definitely would not put trust in that.
donperkan
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
It's so bad you can smell it.
donperkan said:
With many movies, you really can judge them by the cover
I liked Battleship. Good CGI, and the U.S.S. Missouri totally fucking owns the aliens. And she is crewed by the ancient WWII vets that served on her. It's a fun movie that gives a nod to our veterans, and the American fighting spirit of days gone by.