PossibleCabbage
Vault 22 Survivor
I would prefer the cut Think Tank ending from OWB to be canon, but I'll take it.
The NCR Ending Is Canon
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I would prefer the cut Think Tank ending from OWB to be canon, but I'll take it.
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
For those who haven't seen it. Here's the cut ending where you could join the Think Tank.
"In the decades following the Battle of Hoover Dam, the Big Empty remained a desolate stretch of wasteland, where few travelers dared venture.
In time, however, a strange blue field began to grow, slowly spreading across the Big Empty.
Lightning-blue fields of force danced on the horizon, like electrical storms.
People whispered of "floating spheres," flickering like a rainbow of torches in the desert like Old World wisps.
Then communities began to vanish.
Goodsprings was crushed beneath bizarre hexcrete blocks that stacked to the sky. The inhabitants of Primm winked out, flesh-fried into X-ray silhouettes, their arms raised in surrender.
A satellite fell on Jacobstown, beaming a kaleidoscope of bright blue equations into the deranged Nightkin minds, driving some berserk, paralyzing others.
Black Mountain Radio began broadcasting a strange staccato static as hordes of giant man-eating battle Brahmin began to swarm from its peak.
Camp Searchlight became a garden of giant carnivorous plants, and the Colorado river... "shrugged" one day, drowning several communities as its contours adjusted themselves.
The Gomorrah became home to a particularly virulent vegetation-based STD that grew like a fungus within victim's genitalia until their bodies burst open like pods.
The Legion East were systematically brain-scrubbed and rebuilt so that all the inhabitants believed they were in ancient Rome... on the moon.
...and the human cattle of NCR were re-educated into believing they existed in perpetuity in a nation-wide version of someplace called "Tranquillity Lane".
In the end, no one was sure who had cracked the Dome of the Big Empty, although it was clear someone had been playing with forces they did not understand.
Throughout all this, the Think Tank was industrious, confident these experiments were all for the best, the results of the data they obtained - incredible.
They marveled that all of this had been waiting for them to come along and experiment since the war.
Humanity certainly was persistent, no matter what experiments, nuclear holocaust or otherwise, it inflicted on itself."
HA!
"In the decades following the Battle of Hoover Dam, the Big Empty remained a desolate stretch of wasteland, where few travelers dared venture.
In time, however, a strange blue field began to grow, slowly spreading across the Big Empty.
Lightning-blue fields of force danced on the horizon, like electrical storms.
People whispered of "floating spheres," flickering like a rainbow of torches in the desert like Old World wisps.
Then communities began to vanish.
Goodsprings was crushed beneath bizarre hexcrete blocks that stacked to the sky. The inhabitants of Primm winked out, flesh-fried into X-ray silhouettes, their arms raised in surrender.
A satellite fell on Jacobstown, beaming a kaleidoscope of bright blue equations into the deranged Nightkin minds, driving some berserk, paralyzing others.
Black Mountain Radio began broadcasting a strange staccato static as hordes of giant man-eating battle Brahmin began to swarm from its peak.
Camp Searchlight became a garden of giant carnivorous plants, and the Colorado river... "shrugged" one day, drowning several communities as its contours adjusted themselves.
The Gomorrah became home to a particularly virulent vegetation-based STD that grew like a fungus within victim's genitalia until their bodies burst open like pods.
The Legion East were systematically brain-scrubbed and rebuilt so that all the inhabitants believed they were in ancient Rome... on the moon.
...and the human cattle of NCR were re-educated into believing they existed in perpetuity in a nation-wide version of someplace called "Tranquillity Lane".
In the end, no one was sure who had cracked the Dome of the Big Empty, although it was clear someone had been playing with forces they did not understand.
Throughout all this, the Think Tank was industrious, confident these experiments were all for the best, the results of the data they obtained - incredible.
They marveled that all of this had been waiting for them to come along and experiment since the war.
Humanity certainly was persistent, no matter what experiments, nuclear holocaust or otherwise, it inflicted on itself."
HA!
Dr Fallout
Centurion
I prefer the ending in the game to be honest...
ZigzagPX4
The Swiftness of the Ranger
What's so great about a canon NCR ending, people? Explain, because all I can see is "boring" and "predictable" written all over it.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Exactly! For a sequel it's absolutely the worst due to being stale.
Nice to know someone else gets it. In fact, I'm happy lots of people get it here.
Izak
I Shot The ALBATROSS
The presumption that an NCR victory equals a boring story is pretty shitty, Obsidian could probably spin it in a unique way if they wanted to, say that there's unrest from New Vegas citizens who fled there explicitly to get away from NCR's taxes, rumours of revolution, trade blockades, terrorist attacks, etcetera. I'm holding out for a House victory but NCR isn't the end of the world.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Unless the NCR collapses it's pretty boring.
Lanfear
Mildly Dipped
I'd love to see a sequel to FNV in which an NCR victory at Hoover Dam proves pyrrhic and you get to watch the NCR crumbling from the inside due to overextension and mismanagement. Post-post-post-apocalyptic.
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
It's not that an NCR victory aftermath would be "boring". It's just that we've seen it before with Fallout 2 and Fallout New Vegas. If New Vegas ends with NCR annexing Vegas that will be the second game in the series where we've seen the results of NCR expansion.
Knight In Leather Armor
Badger Nutsack
I know it's ambitious and probably won't ever happen but I'd love to see a double release similar to Pokemon where one Fallout features NCR victory and the other features Legion victory on the Hoover Dam.
Probably won't ever happen, but I can dream.
Probably won't ever happen, but I can dream.
Lanfear
Mildly Dipped
You'll have to link two games together and trade Legion Decani for Ranger Veterans etc if you want to catch 'em all.
Knight In Leather Armor
Badger Nutsack
The Courier will be a LEGENDARY ULTIMATE FLAMING FREEZING BURNING COLD DESTROYER OF WORLDS SCOPED FULLY AUTOMATIC COURIER who will be the hardest one to catch in the game.
Practicat
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Why do you all like to keep up with this? 
Unless Bethesda hires somebody else besides Obsidian to decide the canon ending (which may not even happen if the developer sets their game far from the Mojave and leaves it unanswered again), early 2019 is the earliest time to expect a hypothetical Fallout game by Obsidian. That's pretty far, just saying. 
Tyranny is due to be released this year, then I predict Project Louisiana (the game Sawyer is working on) will release autumn 2017, so 2019 with about 2 years of development is the earliest expectation that's feasible.
But let's see, isn't that also close to when we can expect a game from BGS? Then there may be a risk of competition, and maybe weaker reception to an aging engine (for Obsidian) endowed by others (Bethesda) who would be in possession of a better engine at the same time.
So my conjecture is that an early 2019 release is the earliest to expect from Obsidian. Anything past that is the kind of wait from F2 to FNV. Otherwise, settle for someone else before then, who may or may not decide on the canon ending.
I hope this post brings some more closure, noticing how long this thread has continued.
Unless Bethesda hires somebody else besides Obsidian to decide the canon ending (which may not even happen if the developer sets their game far from the Mojave and leaves it unanswered again), early 2019 is the earliest time to expect a hypothetical Fallout game by Obsidian. That's pretty far, just saying. Tyranny is due to be released this year, then I predict Project Louisiana (the game Sawyer is working on) will release autumn 2017, so 2019 with about 2 years of development is the earliest expectation that's feasible.
But let's see, isn't that also close to when we can expect a game from BGS? Then there may be a risk of competition, and maybe weaker reception to an aging engine (for Obsidian) endowed by others (Bethesda) who would be in possession of a better engine at the same time.
So my conjecture is that an early 2019 release is the earliest to expect from Obsidian. Anything past that is the kind of wait from F2 to FNV. Otherwise, settle for someone else before then, who may or may not decide on the canon ending.
I hope this post brings some more closure, noticing how long this thread has continued.
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
Heh. Of course, everything said here is wish-fulfilment. I'm sure in Fallout 5 a UFO will fly out of the Mojave and destroy the entire Core Region.
PossibleCabbage
Vault 22 Survivor
One of the endings has to be canon, and two of them don't really require anything in the way of follow-up.
If the NCR wins it's just "and thus civilization came to the Mojave". If the Courier wins it's just "but the Mojave walked the middle path and achieved independence." Since those are the two endings that don't really demand revisiting Vegas to see what's up there now, they're probably the most likely. Honestly probably a combination of those two endings is most likely, where the Courier takes control of Vegas after the 2nd battle of Hoover Dam and later brings Vegas into the NCR as an equal partner rather than an occupied territory (possibly after Kimball is deposed.)
A House victory or a Legion victory kind of require some significant degree of followup. We would want to see whether House does actually restart the space program and we'd want to see which aspects of the Mojave survive the depredations of the Legion.
The NCR victory is only "good" in the sense that they're the nominal "good guys". That it's not especially exciting is appropriate since it's not like "Redding joins the NCR" or "Broken Hills disperses peacefully" were the most interesting endings for those communities, but they are nonetheless canon because they're cleaner than the alternatives.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
The better question is how the history of a developing culture in a hostile world with it's own internal turmoil, wars and struggles could be considered boring.... It would open for so many stories.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
It's just... well there's real history for that.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
By that logic then the Legion shouldn't win either...
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
Honestly Obsidian have left themselves spoilt for choice on which ending to go with for the hypothetical next game.
PossibleCabbage
Vault 22 Survivor
I'm honestly curious whether they wrote New Vegas with certain ideas about what the canon endings would be, or if they decided to just figure that out if and when they revisit Fallout.