Update 1.3 Lies

I hate to be rude but I stopped reading at "big sidequests are just as good as in new vegas."
Not rude. It's called keeping your sanity.

sigh. do i explain to you how things work again? bugs are individual for all systems. and for so complex game as is this, bug are inevitable. still its much much better than with f3 and slightly better than with fnv, bugwise.

and why is that i cant enjoy 2 different things?

sigh. do i explain to you how things work again? Car crashes and deaths are individual for all cars. and for so complex cars as is this, crashes are inevitable. still its much much better than with previous cars and slightly better than with car xyz, crashwise.


Would you please stop already with defending bad programming, bugs and errors with your own experience?

You are one person. With one Computer. Talking about millions of computers and systems out there as like you would know them all, while it is very clear that you have no clue how things work. Not even the basics.

See, I had programming lessons and I learned the one or other thing about hardware. That was 15 years ago. But still. I remember some of it. Computer systems are not so different from each other that you can't extrapolate certain bugs to errors and flaws in the programming. If 10 000 people report corrupted save files in your games - See Anno 1406 - it is EXTREMLY likely it has something to do with the archictecture of the game. That the error is found in the code, and not on something the players are doing. And oh what surprise, despite of the SHIT talking by some users, that never experienced this bug in Anno. A few months later, the developers release a patch for it to fix it. Yes ... it was all the users fault. Hence why it required a patch to fix it.

The more the bugs have something to do with the gameplay and the basics of the game, the less likely is it, that it's on the users end. Most of the bugs which have something to do with your system, are glitches in the visuals, artifacts, flickering etc. Yes those can be caused by your hardware, sometimes. Because your graphic card is what's geting most of the stress in video games, and using features, that are only used in that particular video game. If you had other issues, based on your system, you would notice them with your OS as well. Like crashes, blue screens and so on. It's unlikely that your hard drive will ONLY show an error while playing Skyrim or Fallout 4. Or that your ram suddenly decides to fuck up everything, because it hates Skyrim. Hardware, doesn't work like that. Issues with the visuals can be sometimes, but not always, fixed by upgrading or downgrading your drivers. However, when you encounter broken quests, frequent crashes, stuttering, FPS los all while other games and software works perfectly fine? Than it's very unlikely that it's a problem with your computer system.

And don't forget. We are still talking here about a company that is not only known for it's bugs but that is even made fun off because of it. Bugthesta, Bugerfall, Broken Still. Those didn't come out of nowhere you know.

Here, look at all those player errors. And the game was even so nice to highlight them for you with exclamation marks ;)
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how is statement that so complex game as f4 will have bugs, and that there is literary nothing in real world to prevent it?
Hmm. How is your statement wrong. I dont know. But how about we start, for example with games which have less bugs out there? Or that we talk about Bethesda. A company making games since at least the late 1990s. A team that has been run by the same individuals for the last 15 years.
If you would see your car mechanic making the same fucking mistakes, even after 15 years of experience in repairing your car, you would ask him if he's right in his head. If you still have faith in said car mechanic after those 15 years, I would ask you, if you're right in your head.

No one here is complaining about the fact that a complex piece of software, like games, contain errors. That they can't be 100% perfect. We are talking about games after all. Not software used in nuclear power plants. But seriously, this isn't a black or white scenario. This is not a new issue. And game developers are seen as professionals in their field. And it is well known that they often decide to save money and time on testing and bug fixing before the release. Hardly controversial knowledge at this point ...

People encounter issues and bugs that can be described as GAME BREAKING. And with increasing frequenzy even. Bugs that should be found and eliminated trough TESTING. Long before the game was released. It's like as if they didn't even tested their own game properly.

ever played around with geck or creation kit? ever made scripts? try it. its hard to make it bug proof.
Ever had the task to run a marketing campaign for a medium sized company, developing a new brand, website, corporate design and manage the finances? It's hard to make it succesfull. And yet, some people succeed. Why? Because it's their fucking job. Because that's what they get paied for. Neat that you compare the work of people that do it in their free time with those of professionals. It sure makes someone like you look better. But I am not sure if it is the standard you should set for professionals. This do it by your self, is a shitty excuse, in this case. Sorry if I am so blunt. But that's simply what it is.
 
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I did. Maybe you should reread your own comments again as well? Maybe it is the way you say things around here. Or, without the intention to attack you now, the lack of correct grammar and spelling makes it hard to understand your intentions? And believe me that, I know what I am talking about in that regard.

No clue really. You might be under the impression that people missunderstand you or your intentions. Fair enough. However, it is also likely, that they might get an accurate statement out of what you write, and understand you well enough. And what you write, simply doesn't convey your intentions the way you think it does, or should. Calling you a troll, would be probably to far. But the words passive-agressive have been used a couple of times to describe your behaviour, which I think is rather accurate.

It could be something that I missunderstood, that's always a possbility. But when I look at how many people are picking fights with you here. Here and in other topics. How a couple of posters told you that you are at least factually wrong. And how you make a habbit out of double-posting. Despite of the edit function beeing there to simply avoid that. I have serious doubts that the fault is on my side.
 
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I did. Maybe you should reread your own comments again as well? Maybe it is the way you say things around here. Or, without the intention to attack you now, the lack of correct grammar and spelling makes it hard to understand your intentions? And believe me that, I know what I am talking about in that regard.

No clue really. You might be under the impression that people missunderstand you or your intentions. Fair enough. However, it is also likely, that they might get an accurate statement out of what you write, and understand you well enough. And what you write, simply doesn't convey your intentions the way you think it does, or should. Calling you a troll, would be probably to far. But the words passive-agressive have been used a couple of times to describe your behaviour, which I think is rather accurate.

It could be something that I missunderstood, that's always a possbility. But when I look at how many people are picking fights with you here. Here and in other topics. How a couple of posters told you that you are at least factually wrong. And how you make a habbit out of double-posting. Despite of the edit function beeing there to simply avoid that. I have serious doubts that the fault is on my side.
yea. i get you. i probably do write things in manner not understandable by other people (and the grammar, i know), as it came up later in discussion, and i even misunderstood OP here, as i admitted and apologized. and yea, i am passive agressive bunch. been my whole life, sorry for coming out like that. then again. i've been repeately insulted, called stupid, implied that i am of lesser intelect for enjoying f4. thats not very nice, dont you think? then my modding experiences are bellitled even if i worked with J3X on enclave commander and helped many, many modders with their problems in geck and creation kit. that wasnt very nice either. i stated i wanetd normal discussion. i even agreed that fallout 4 is not good fallout game. and that it has many flaws and problems. but i've been again insulted again. what could normal person take out of it, waht do you think?

maybe some people are just shot first think second? i think i cleared my intentions here.
 
yea. i get you. i probably do write things in manner not understandable by other people (and the grammar, i know), as it came up later in discussion, and i even misunderstood OP here, as i admitted and apologized. and yea, i am passive agressive bunch.
And NMA is not always one of the most friendliest communities out there. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. But I doubt It's going to change any time soon. People simply get their alarm clocks ringing here, when someone sounds like he's defending Fallout 4 and Bethesda. Mostly, for good reasons. From 10 people doing it 9 turn out to be trolls that you see never again.

Well, if there was a serious missunderstanding goin on. Well than I apologize. And say, let us have a fresh start no?

Let us see how your next posts will be.
 
I think this guy is trying to set a record for double posting in a single thread.

Anyone else notice the correlation between shitposters and the number of double posts they produce?

Is this Martin the new Iteration of Battlecross or Someguy 37?

Whatever he is, he's no Dragonborn.
 
I think this guy is trying to set a record for double posting in a single thread.

Anyone else notice the correlation between shitposters and the number of double posts they produce?



Whatever he is, he's no Dragonborn.

No troll can be as enjoyable as Drangonborn. Funny I have not seen Someguy 37 in a while. That little idiot was quite dedicated with his posting and delusions.
 
Let me try to be useful for once, the topic was something about how the patch 1.3 for the game Fallout 4 was fixing bugs that weren't even bugs and didn't fix actual serious bugs reported and known for a while... I think... :confused:

Let me be more useful again, Martin you double post a lot and sometimes even triple post, this is against the rules around here and it is considered spamming, but I think I know why you do it and I definitely believe that your intention is not spamming, so I will inform you that you can still quote other people posts all while you're writing your own, all you have to do is without finishing your post you just click on the quote option of the next post you want to quote.
 
No troll can be as enjoyable as Drangonborn. Funny I have not seen Someguy 37 in a while. That little idiot was quite dedicated with his posting and delusions.

He wasn't that bad.
I think this is going off topic... whatever the original topic was.

Just an update on how Bethesda can't fix shit before they finish the game, or after they finish the game. And then they lie about it during development, during completion, and during post-release.

Well, I'll give them points for effort. Zero does count as a point, yes?
 
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