Why are so many people buying this game?

Say what you will about F4, but it has the best voice acting out of a Beth game since the intro to Daggerfall. Most of the voice acting in FNV isn't very good either. F4 has pretty decent voice acting. The same five people don't voice everyone for once!

What is this I don't even...
Some of that guy's posts seem normal and while I disagree with his points it doesn't sound like trolling. Then there are these other posts which clearly look like straight up trolling.
 
Say what you will about F4, but it has the best voice acting out of a Beth game since the intro to Daggerfall. Most of the voice acting in FNV isn't very good either. F4 has pretty decent voice acting. The same five people don't voice everyone for once!

What is this I don't even...
Some of that guy's posts seem normal and while I disagree with his points it doesn't sound like trolling. Then there are these other posts which clearly look like straight up trolling.

I can agree with that but this post he made is just...wow. I thought all the voice acting besides Steven Russell's voice acting in Fallout 4 was so dreadful to listen to.
 
Say what you will about F4, but it has the best voice acting out of a Beth game since the intro to Daggerfall. Most of the voice acting in FNV isn't very good either. F4 has pretty decent voice acting. The same five people don't voice everyone for once!

What is this I don't even...
Some of that guy's posts seem normal and while I disagree with his points it doesn't sound like trolling. Then there are these other posts which clearly look like straight up trolling.

I can agree with that but this post he made is just...wow. I thought all the voice acting besides Steven Russell's voice acting in Fallout 4 was so dreadful to listen to.

Agreed, the voice acting was shit.
 
Say what you will about F4, but it has the best voice acting out of a Beth game since the intro to Daggerfall. Most of the voice acting in FNV isn't very good either. F4 has pretty decent voice acting. The same five people don't voice everyone for once!

What is this I don't even...
Some of that guy's posts seem normal and while I disagree with his points it doesn't sound like trolling. Then there are these other posts which clearly look like straight up trolling.

I can agree with that but this post he made is just...wow. I thought all the voice acting besides Steven Russell's voice acting in Fallout 4 was so dreadful to listen to.
Well he also claimed Morrowind had worse dialogue than Fallout 4 so I can only imagine what his definition of the word "dialogue" is.

And yea it's beyond dreadful. And the argument that there were only 5 voice actors in previous games is not even a good argument because they at least ACTED better which is what VOICE ACTING is.

For 5 bucks and a burger Bethesda could have gotten someone random off the street who can read and the voice acting would have come out better.

And the writing? Wow. Every time Preston Gravy says "I've got something a little different for you this time" I want to blow his head off, but you can't do that in Fallout anymore. "Oh, you have something different? Great because these repetitive base clearing quests are really annoying after the first 10."

Then he replies "I've gotten word from a new settlement, they want you to clear out this base."

Then I reply "MOTHER F*****"

In contrast, I started New Vegas and was able to exterminate the entire town of Goodsprings within the first 10 minutes of the game and the voice acting of every character in that game is better than Fallout 4. Same with Fallout 3 - voice acting much better than 4.

The only dialogue that can be considered improved with Fallout 4, in my opinion, is the dialogue that random NPCs say when you walk past them. But that is such a superficial part of the game that it isn't something to brag about.
 
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The dialogue in Fallout 4 really feels like it was all separately recorded and artificially cut and pasted together in the laziest way possible. On many occasions, the tone of the protagonist is the complete opposite of what it should be given the nature of the conversation, and it hardly matches the dialogue of the other person.

If there is one thing that you can absolutely complain about forever it's the awful dialogue and dialogue system in Fallout 4. It is the only truly unforgivable thing I see in the game. I don't like the other decisions either, but that dialogue is the major insult.
 
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Say what you will about F4, but it has the best voice acting out of a Beth game since the intro to Daggerfall. Most of the voice acting in FNV isn't very good either. F4 has pretty decent voice acting. The same five people don't voice everyone for once!

What is this I don't even...
Some of that guy's posts seem normal and while I disagree with his points it doesn't sound like trolling. Then there are these other posts which clearly look like straight up trolling.

I can agree with that but this post he made is just...wow. I thought all the voice acting besides Steven Russell's voice acting in Fallout 4 was so dreadful to listen to.
Well he also claimed Morrowind had worse dialogue than Fallout 4 so I can only imagine what his definition of the word "dialogue" is.

And yea it's beyond dreadful. And the argument that there were only 5 voice actors in previous games is not even a good argument because they at least ACTED better which is what VOICE ACTING is.

For 5 bucks and a burger Bethesda could have gotten someone random off the street who can read and the voice acting would have come out better.

And the writing? Wow. Every time Preston Gravy says "I've got something a little different for you this time" I want to blow his head off, but you can't do that in Fallout anymore. "Oh, you have something different? Great because these repetitive base clearing quests are really annoying after the first 10."

Then he replies "I've gotten word from a new settlement, they want you to clear out this base."

Then I reply "MOTHER F*****"

In contrast, I started New Vegas and was able to exterminate the entire town of Goodsprings within the first 10 minutes of the game and the voice acting of every character in that game is better than Fallout 4. Same with Fallout 3 - voice acting much better than 4.

The only dialogue that can be considered improved with Fallout 4, in my opinion, is the dialogue that random NPCs say when you walk past them. But that is such a superficial part of the game that it isn't something to brag about.

Dialogue is, to me, a conservation between people, not "let me read you Balmora's UESP entry."

Morrowind, in my humble opinion, has the worst dialogue not written by a late-90s Capcom translation team ever. And I played F3, so that's saying something.
 
Is the ending as stupid as the ending of FO3?

Yes.

At least you get to nuke(?) something. You know, Beth-nuke, the kind of nuke that looks cool, but contains its damage in such a way that it... remains cool, and not detrimental to the enjoyment of nuking stuff

to be completely fair, the Cathedral nuke of FO1 always kind of bothered me - how fast does the character run from there anyway? :'D
 
I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....
 
I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....

Says it all :D

Cars can explode though, but it takes a great deal of effort, and they usually "over-ignite" rather than blow up like a block of dynamite

Movies love to perpetuate these ideas though - the exploding cars (both by shooting, crashing or by falling. strange you never see cars exploding like bombs in traffic cams... ), the insta-kill bullets - or the bullets that lift people off the ground, and send them flying through the air

Nostalgia Critic once refered to "flamboyant dying", that made me laugh... but that is also a typical movie trope - when people die with great flamboyancy :D Typical in older westerns, you shoot a cowboy, and he grabs his chest, throws himself backwards, screams out, does a pirouette, then dives head first off a roof, and lands in a tray of water
Other cowboys applaud, and give points "10/10, 9/10, 10/10"
 
I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....

Says it all :D

Cars can explode though, but it takes a great deal of effort, and they usually "over-ignite" rather than blow up like a block of dynamite

Movies love to perpetuate these ideas though - the exploding cars (both by shooting, crashing or by falling. strange you never see cars exploding like bombs in traffic cams... ), the insta-kill bullets - or the bullets that lift people off the ground, and send them flying through the air

Nostalgia Critic once refered to "flamboyant dying", that made me laugh... but that is also a typical movie trope - when people die with great flamboyancy :D Typical in older westerns, you shoot a cowboy, and he grabs his chest, throws himself backwards, screams out, does a pirouette, then dives head first off a roof, and lands in a tray of water
Other cowboys applaud, and give points "10/10, 9/10, 10/10"

That flying cowboy? Reminds me of something...

Fallout 3/Fallout New Vegas.
 
I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....

Says it all :D

Cars can explode though, but it takes a great deal of effort, and they usually "over-ignite" rather than blow up like a block of dynamite

Movies love to perpetuate these ideas though - the exploding cars (both by shooting, crashing or by falling. strange you never see cars exploding like bombs in traffic cams... ), the insta-kill bullets - or the bullets that lift people off the ground, and send them flying through the air

Nostalgia Critic once refered to "flamboyant dying", that made me laugh... but that is also a typical movie trope - when people die with great flamboyancy :D Typical in older westerns, you shoot a cowboy, and he grabs his chest, throws himself backwards, screams out, does a pirouette, then dives head first off a roof, and lands in a tray of water
Other cowboys applaud, and give points "10/10, 9/10, 10/10"

That flying cowboy? Reminds me of something...

Fallout 3/Fallout New Vegas.
I prefer flying cowboys to cowboys who explode into little chunks of people when shot by a 9mm.

Fallout weapons are silly. I think the rads made everyone turn into tissue paper.
 
I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....

Says it all :D

Cars can explode though, but it takes a great deal of effort, and they usually "over-ignite" rather than blow up like a block of dynamite

Movies love to perpetuate these ideas though - the exploding cars (both by shooting, crashing or by falling. strange you never see cars exploding like bombs in traffic cams... ), the insta-kill bullets - or the bullets that lift people off the ground, and send them flying through the air

Nostalgia Critic once refered to "flamboyant dying", that made me laugh... but that is also a typical movie trope - when people die with great flamboyancy :D Typical in older westerns, you shoot a cowboy, and he grabs his chest, throws himself backwards, screams out, does a pirouette, then dives head first off a roof, and lands in a tray of water
Other cowboys applaud, and give points "10/10, 9/10, 10/10"

That flying cowboy? Reminds me of something...

Fallout 3/Fallout New Vegas.
I prefer flying cowboys to cowboys who explode into little chunks of people when shot by a 9mm.

Fallout weapons are silly. I think the rads made everyone turn into tissue paper.

Yeah agreed, by the flying cowboy I mean the rag-doll physics when they die.
 
I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....

Says it all :D

Cars can explode though, but it takes a great deal of effort, and they usually "over-ignite" rather than blow up like a block of dynamite

Movies love to perpetuate these ideas though - the exploding cars (both by shooting, crashing or by falling. strange you never see cars exploding like bombs in traffic cams... ), the insta-kill bullets - or the bullets that lift people off the ground, and send them flying through the air

Nostalgia Critic once refered to "flamboyant dying", that made me laugh... but that is also a typical movie trope - when people die with great flamboyancy :D Typical in older westerns, you shoot a cowboy, and he grabs his chest, throws himself backwards, screams out, does a pirouette, then dives head first off a roof, and lands in a tray of water
Other cowboys applaud, and give points "10/10, 9/10, 10/10"

You forgot about the robots like the protectrons that explode in such a huge radius that if you don't run far enough you get instakilled because...reasons. I had to scurry to the other side of the subway after killing one and I still took damage despite not being near it.
 
Well he also claimed Morrowind had worse dialogue than Fallout 4 so I can only imagine what his definition of the word "dialogue" is.

And yea it's beyond dreadful. And the argument that there were only 5 voice actors in previous games is not even a good argument because they at least ACTED better which is what VOICE ACTING is.

For 5 bucks and a burger Bethesda could have gotten someone random off the street who can read and the voice acting would have come out better.

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I think you're onto something here ;)



And they would be helping people getting decent jobs too!

Nostalgia Critic once refered to "flamboyant dying", that made me laugh... but that is also a typical movie trope - when people die with great flamboyancy
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Typical in older westerns, you shoot a cowboy, and he grabs his chest, throws himself backwards, screams out, does a pirouette, then dives head first off a roof, and lands in a tray of water
Other cowboys applaud, and give points "10/10, 9/10, 10/10"
The Mask with Jim Carrey?
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Dear NMA,

Does anyone here have theories on why this game is so popular? Fallout 3 wasn't good, and any sane person could assume Fallout 4 was going to be worse for various reasons. I regrettably spent 60 hours on Fallout 3, and the only reason it sucked me in for that long was the addictive nature of the game. Maybe Fallout 4 is simply more addictive?

I've seen posts saying "I'll buy it when it's on sale to check it out" or something to that effect. Why? Why buy something you already know is going to be bad? Is it just due a huge marketing budget or what? I'm only 30 but maybe I'm becoming too old to "get it" when it comes to the whims of the modern gaming community.

Serious theories welcomed,
-Confused Gamer

P.S. I see that even many of the members of RPGCodex are buying and playing Fallout 4 on their Steam accounts. lol, #irony
Why would you put 60 hours into a game if you thought it was bad?
 
Why would you put 60 hours into a game if you thought it was bad?

The answer is simple: algophilia.

I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....

They probably took notes from Michael Bay. After all, he and Bethesda have a lot in common.
 
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Why would you put 60 hours into a game if you thought it was bad?

The answer is simple: algophilia.

I was told by a Fallout 4 fan that I was an idiot for telling him that cars in real life don't explode when shot... This kid actually believes videogame physics are real....

They probably took notes from Michael Bay. After all, he and Bethesda have a lot in common.
When Ben Affleck, on the set of Armageddon, asked Michael Bay: "Wouldn't it be easier and make more sense to train astronauts to drill rather than train drillers to be astronauts?" Michael Bay replied, "Shut up."

When people asked Pete Hines "Does it make sense that a kid survived 200 years in a refrigerator with no food, water, or oxygen?" he replied "I'm not interested in realism in a world with talking mutants and ghouls." (Which is pretty much the same response - "shut up nerd")

So yes I agree totally.
 
Why would you put 60 hours into a game if you thought it was bad?

The answer is simple: algophilia.
I've seen shit like this before with people who try to act elitist and claim that a game is bad even though the amount of hours they've invested in it says otherwise. I don't know if that's the case here, but regardless, if he put that many hours into the game and still says it's bad, well, then I think there's something wrong with him or he's just being a hypocrite.
 
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